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Am I doing the right thing here

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cherryademerrymaid · 03/12/2013 11:50

Brief background:

1 child, over age of 6.

ExH left us in my home country (Hague convention country) several years ago.

ExH now lives in another country (Hague convention country)

ExH refuses to visit child here.

ExH insists only way seeing child is either putting child on plane or allowing ExH to come here and taking child away for a week.

ExH had telephone contact up until earlier this year.

Now ExH has e-mail contact - my choice.

ExH has done these things in the past that resulted in me insisting on E-mail only

ExH closed his e-mail account so we could only communicate via phone

Made accusations of me not allowing child to tell him via phone what child wants for Christmas/birthdays

Has gotten annoyed at child when child hasn't heard him properly/misunderstood what he is saying and told child that child is very rude

Has told child there is not need to talk if they don't' feel like it and then accused me of stopping child from talking

Has refused to call on time demanding a 30 minute calling window

Has called unexpectedly and then got angry at me for child not being available and gotten verbally aggressive with me, made fun of me to whomever was in the room with him and told me I need to shut my fucking mouth

Has told child he is going on a family holiday with his step children to a place he knows child would be desperate to go to and subsequently sent a brochure from the place as a "Christmas present"

Has asked for more time, been offered calling every single day, has come to an arrangement for less than every day but for just 5 minutes at bed time and then has gotten angry when I've said we need to change the arrangement because he's insisting on extending calling from 5 to 10 to 25 to 20 minutes (and sometimes calling late too) and accused me of being controlling and alienating him from child

Has been annoyed when telephone conversation isn't going the way he wants it to go and has then said to child that since he can't be bothered to talk to him he's only going to call once a week form now on (child was upset, didn't know they had done anything wrong) and then subsequently made out it was merely for the child's own good when the delivery was obviously due to anger not care and concern

Accusations of not allowing him to know child's measurements so he can buy clothe/shoes for child and purposely buying the wrong sizes even though I have given him the right sizes on the phone and then saying that I'm just being critical and every single present he sends isn't good enough (completely not true)

Final straw - ExH told me he wanted to come here with his family, take child during school term time, on a trip to a third country to somewhere he knows child really, really wants to go to. We have been over the fact that I have been advised to not let child out of country based on previous behaviour of ExH without certain things being in place via a court order, and we have been over that time and time and time again, each time he declares that he has no idea why I am being so difficult and that there are laws in place to prevent him from keeping child outside this country (yes, there are....but first I would have to find child and ExH - but I have his address so of course I'd be able to find them) then I would have to pay for the case to be brought to court (in a country that is notorious for astronomically high lawyer fees and dragging out such cases for years and years and years). Anyway, I reiterated that such arrangements needed to be sorted out in court and that he was welcome to apply to this jurisdiction. I asked him to please not say anything to child until we had sorted it out in court.

So, ExH on next phone call told child all about the trip, letting child know that whole family would be there including step-children, and would child like to come....of course I had to say no, child was in bits.

I said no more phone calls and have stuck to that since. E-mail contact only. I've just been through another 24 hours of random phone calls and e-mails asking me to let ExH speak to child. I haven't backed down. I don't' feel I can trust ExH to not pull more of these stunts.

Am I doing the right thing? Am I being too harsh? Since me implementing the e-mail contact ExH has frequently gone weeks and weeks without replying to child's emails.

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cherryademerrymaid · 03/12/2013 20:09

this is what I've told him:

His dad can't be trusted because he hasn't played fair - he has lied to try to get the upper hand and manipulated me when I was in a very vulnerable position. I've said it is wrong for his dad to use promises to try to get me to change his mind, that it's thoughtless and DC can see that by the hurt he feels from his dad's actions. I've said that his Dad was right to leave because we were desperately unhappy and that is not healthy for anyone, but that the way in which his dad did it and continues to act is very wrong. Is that enough do you think? This information ahs been given to in drip feeding mode as and when questions have arrived and at times, especially if DC has then brought up what I've said on the phone to ExH, I've been worried I've taken it too far and I'm the parent who is actually in the wrong.

I have an extremely dysfunctional past with my parents so to be honest, I don't think I really know what is ok in relationships a lot of the time - I'm very conditioned and am trying to break it all. the last thing I want to do is mess up my children - I have no wish for them to grow up and suddenly feel they didn't really have a mum, just a dysfunctional person who messed with their heads. That's exactly the opposite of what I want.

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Hissy · 03/12/2013 21:21

I've just gone NC with all my lot too, it was the abusive relationship that showed me how screwed up it all was. DS understands that too.

Sounds like you and I are on similar pages of the same book!

I think you're doing great! Keep trusting your intuition and instincts!

Lweji · 03/12/2013 23:31

DS's dad is just full of crap, but it has got better with time, recording conversations (pre-court decision) and switching off a few times.

I do find Skype a bit intrusive, but considering the lack of physical contact, it's the next best thing. I usually retreat to the kitchen or bedroom if it seems to be going well, and I can listen to it if the volume is high enough. And he doesn't see much more than the sofa DS is sitting on..

Lweji · 03/12/2013 23:33

Your explanation sounds very good, btw. :)

cherryademerrymaid · 04/12/2013 09:00

Thanks Lweji

I feel a lot better having discussed this here. It's been such a lead weight this past few years.

I just wish DC had a better Dad. I wish ExH didn't think he was prince charming (because he does) - you should read his emails. All about how hard he tried to help me etc etc but I as too ill and psychotic and unreasonable and how he's going to spend all day in the witness stand proving how terrible I am...and yet there are other e-mails (when he's trying to get me to do something) saying what an excellent parent I am etc etc - its almost insane.There have been times when I've felt completely crushed under the weight of it all and when (like many times during our marriage) I've believed him and have wondered if I'm losing my mind.

Maybe we will get to Skype or something one day - if ExH actually approaches me and shows some insight into his actions - I feel very sad for DC though because I think that day will never come. I don't think he has the capacity to reflect and change.

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