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Was he seeing her all along? or Am I to blame?

52 replies

HippyTea · 15/11/2013 15:33

I've spent the past 5 years with the same man who has a very unsecure line of work. He's spent the first 3 years flitting between countries in the winter months; as I was always working I could never go with him. Last year he landed a more permanent job at home and our relationship was better than ever. We were coming into a bit of money and discussing our plans for a new home and family but around August he lost his job after being unprofessional during a disagreement with a boss. He'd promised to look for more stable work so I was very disappointed when he applied for a job in the middle east and went.

We were barely able to communicate between October - December. I was having problems with work and unfortunately my father fell very ill. Things were pilling up on me and without my partner there I ended up with mild depression which I began exercising to combat as advised by the doctor. When my partner finally came home he got a job on the other side of the country and meant we began more of a weekend relationship. He was frustrated at my dedication to my new exercise regime and said I didn't make much of an effort with him which boggled me as I made just as much effort to communicate as I always have when he flitted about. I tried to make more effort, things seemed to be okay and he booked us a get away for our 5 year anniversary.

The week just before our break I went out on a very rare night out and he phoned me continuously to ask who I was with and what I was doing. Totally out of character and not at all his behaviour. The last call of a night ended with him calling me a selfish C*nt. The next day I called to discuss and tell him I was so upset about his behaviour the previous night and he launched in to questioning if I ever loved him. Stupidly I said "what do you think, I'm still here supporting you and your choices after all these years".

For two weeks he didn't speak to me, see me and avoided my calls. Then when he finally did he was annoyed with me and demanded I admit fault. To say I was to blame for the break down of the relationship. I tried to talk about his distant behaviour and how hard I have found it to have depression whilst he hasn't been about to support me but that only got me back to being ignored.

Another week past and I discover in those two weeks after he split he had been dating another girl near where he works because she tags him on Facebook. I drove 200 miles to see him for the first time since before our row, not giving him the chance to avoid me. When I get there Friday night he isn't happy and doesn't want to talk at first. But we still end up sharing a bed, the weekend goes up and down. From behaving like a normal couple, to turning on me every time his phone rings or he gets a message. On sunday night we sleep together and once finished but still connected he tells me he's not sure he feels the same… yet in the morning when I leave he tells me he wants to try again. From the moment I arrived home and for two more weeks he completely cuts me off again. I receive a message from the girl he's dating saying that she isn't interested in him anymore for some reason (I never contacted her) and then the week after they change their relationship statuses on Facebook as together.

I'm back on antidepressants and all over the place. My partner never once broke up with me just ignored me. I feel like all of this is so surreal. Am I being ignorant?

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joblot · 17/11/2013 12:05

Definitely distract yourself. What an awful human being he is. Such all round shitty behaviour. At some point you'll be glad you've escaped. Well done for dumping his sorry arse

perfectstorm · 17/11/2013 12:26

I'm so sorry - it's always incredibly hard not to doubt yourself when someone you have loved turns round and behaves like a raging loonish fuckwit. On the upside, this is how he reacts when he finds emotions such as guilt or discomfort over his own actions hard to handle, and that usually means someone who is incapable of altering their behaviour when feeling emotions his conscience actually intended to flag up that he's doing something wrong. People like that are a nightmare, because they always add insult to injury when you're most vulnerable - so yes, very lucky escape. Better now than if you were married and had completely enmeshed lives - sure you've seen posts from women in that situation on here, and the agony is even worse than yours.

You sound lovely. He sounds a raging cockmaggot. His loss, your gain. Flowers

redundantandbitter · 17/11/2013 12:42

Cockmaggot! Love that . Twunt too. He's def those

PrincessKitKat · 17/11/2013 12:46

I think you've been really strong OP.

Hes played games with your heart for ages - Moving jobs, going silent, blaming you for his faults... You've taken back control by essentially dumping this vile man, giving back his things & going NC. it will be hard but as one PP said, you've not had proper contact for ages, so fingers crossed it will be easier than you think.

I sincerely believe that without this loser playing mind games, and with the support of your friends & investing in your fitness, your health will improve immeasurably Thanks

perfectstorm · 17/11/2013 18:43

I agree your mental health will improve markedly from NC, after the initial agony wears off anyway. I suspect the last poster is right, and he's been damaging you psychologically for a fair while.

HippyTea · 17/11/2013 18:58

Haha at Cockmaggot and twunt!

Thank you all for your replies.

I met a friend at a country park and went for a walk and a chat today to try and avoid the urge to respond to any of his nonsense.

He phoned whilst I was out and I answered. I said hello a few times and he said nothing so ended up saying "do fuck off" and hung up. A few hours later he text to say he must have "pocket dialled me" which I very much doubt because chances are if he had he wouldn't have been any the wiser.

Today I've spent time with friends and family so it's been easy not to be in contact, I know it's probably going to be hard for a while. I have no desire to be with him but I do miss being with someone, it's almost like I'm grieving because it feels like the man I loved has gone and I've lost the future we spoke of and his family from mine. It's very odd.

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oldgrandmama · 17/11/2013 19:29

Love perfectstorm's post ... she's absolutely right. Honestly, you're over the worst and you're WELL RID! Sound like you have great support with loving friends and family and yes, it'll be hard for a while, but it will get better. Grieving is quite normal - like a bereavement, only with the added anguish that the 'gone' is still bloody alive and kicking! You'll come through this ... and look back one day, and think 'Lucky Escape!'

perfectstorm · 17/11/2013 21:20

Is there any chance you could get a new phone number? I know it's inconvenient, but the closure might be really valuable. I don't think he's done with contacting you and as that contact is guaranteed to cause more hurt, I think a firm line drawn under it might be releasing.

He's some other poor sap's problem now. It may not feel that way yet, but it'll come. Really it will.

HippyTea · 18/11/2013 12:32

At 12am last night he sent me the following message:

"I don't hate you. I'm angry. I do care for you still. I don't want to see you hurting. I haven't handled things well but that comes down to my anger at the situation. I think it's best we just keep our distance completely and let everything settle properly and I hope we can be friends in the future"

Baffled completely as to what he has to be angry about but I sent back that I'd also like to cut contact completely…then at 11am this morning I get
"I'm going to be the local cafe in half an hour if you want to talk"

The come down hasn't hit me yet, I'm still pissed that he's still sending me this utter garbage!

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Anniegetyourgun · 18/11/2013 12:40

Heh, cheeky fecker. Pissed is the right reaction imo.

A few answers occur to me first off, including

"Last night you said it was best we just keep our distance completely. Let's just do that, eh?"

"Have you brought the other woman with you or will it be just the two of us for a change?" (not recommended)

and my personal favourite, "Why the fuck should I want to talk?"

Or you could just ignore it, leave him sitting there (assume he means to go to the café rather than "change his mind" and leave you sitting there high and dry like a lemon) and do something more entertaining with your day, like watching some paint dry, or sticking plastic forks into your eyeballs. Or even something you actually enjoy doing.

BitOutOfPractice · 18/11/2013 12:42

Hello OP

I am hoping hoping hoping that you didn't go and see him.

He feels guilty. His "let's be friends" and "t's all yur fault" shenanigans are his way of assuaging his guilt.

I have been absolutely exactly where you are now. Including the waiting while he worked away / decided what he wanted out of life etc etc.

It took me 5 months of being messed around and shat upon before I found out the full, horrendous extent of his appalling behaviour and cut off all contact.

I wish wish WISH i had not wasted those 5 months when I could have been healing instead of him trashing my heart over and over again. Learn from my mistake and go NC now.

I'm so sorry you're going through this. YOu sound lovely and you don't deserve to be tteated like this by ths wankbadger Cake

BitOutOfPractice · 18/11/2013 12:43

And I disagree with annie. The best answer is no answer. Nothing you can think of to say to him will piss him off and fuck with his head as much as silence.

HippyTea · 18/11/2013 13:21

No, I didn't go and meet him!

Trying my best to completely blank him because I'm dying to send something to wound him back, but you're right BitOut, nothing is going to bother him no matter what I say.

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Anniegetyourgun · 18/11/2013 13:27

True, true. If you send a wounding reply it'll only encourage him because it shows you give a shit. Like the wise person said, the opposite of love is not hate but indifference.

MistAllChuckingFrighty · 18/11/2013 13:37

The bestb thing you could do if you want to hit him where it hurts (like he has hurt you) is to completely ignore him for now and forever

There is nothing that narcissists and attention seekers hate more than if they think they are of no consequence whatsoever.

the opposite of love is not hate, it is indifference

MistAllChuckingFrighty · 18/11/2013 13:38

oops, cross posted Smile

Anniegetyourgun · 18/11/2013 13:44

Great minds, innit.

Lweji · 18/11/2013 14:30

nothing is going to bother him no matter what I say.

You not saying anything is going to hurt him the most. Wink

You not showing up at the cafe and leaving things on his doorstep hurt him the most.
You disengaging from him is the best punishment you can give him.

HippyTea · 18/11/2013 16:31

He messaged more about how I snubbed him again and I couldn't stop myself from replying.

My reply was:
"Last night you asked for cut of all contact which I am more than willing to oblige by; today you want to "chat". This seems very much like a game to you and it's my mental health that you are playing with. I am ceasing all contact from here on out"

I know the fact I've mentioned my mental health will piss him off because whenever I've asked him to stop playing with me he says "thats it go on blame me for all your problems" etc. I deleted his number but when he replies I know it's him. Just hoping he will stop messaging and then I won't be able to reply. I'm in a contract so I don't think I can change my number?

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BitOutOfPractice · 18/11/2013 17:33

Have you got an iphone OP?

You can block numbers on them now

HippyTea · 18/11/2013 18:20

yes I do… how do you do it?!

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redundantandbitter · 18/11/2013 18:28

There's apps you can get. I have one to block his ex wife.

PrincessKitKat · 18/11/2013 20:02

Good reply Hippytea. Hope he's left you in peace this evening.

Lots of step by step instructions online on blocking numbers on the iPhone.

HippyTea · 18/11/2013 20:21

Oh I googled it and had no idea it was that easy! Thank you all ladies.

Went back to the gym today to lift some weights and bought myself a book called "The power of now"… here goes :)

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MistAllChuckingFrighty · 18/11/2013 20:27

good for you Smile

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