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I can't believe what my mum has done (abuse related)

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justnamechanging · 30/10/2013 22:18

A regular poster who has name changed for this.

My mum is pretty toxic and I have posted about it before however she does love my DCs so I visit her once a month with them. My mum is also very jealous of my ILs because they have done very well whereas my mum although comfortable has never been well off.
My mum and dad split up when I was very young and my mum remarried my step dad was emotionally and physically abusive to me and my siblings and when I was a teenager he became sexually abusive. My mum didn't care would say I was making it up or that I deserved it. I reported this to the police age 15 but my mum convinced them I was just being a naughty teenager and making it up. (My step dad was respected in the community) and the police dropped it.
My step dad left my mum a few years later became she was old and he moved out of the country with another woman.

Fast forward to today. I arrived at her house with the DH and DCs there was a strange car parked in the drive but she was the only one in the house I asked who owned the car and she said it was just a friend's. So we sat down and the DCs played.
Then my mum went upstairs and I could hear voices and two sets of footsteps she then said she had a surprise it was 'grand dad' and hustled step dad through the door. I grabbed the DCs (so did DH) and just left.

So my mum called a bit later and begged a chance to explain the DCs had gone to the ILs house so I said fine as long as she came alone. So she did and she said that she was going to get back with him and they were getting married and I just needed to get used to the idea. I explained that I would have nothing to do with him and nor would my DCs. She got very angry and started screaming that I was an idiot who made everything up and kept telling DH that he shouldn't believe anything I say and I was with him for the money I told her to leave and she just kept repeating that I deserved it because I was a horrid person and she would tell my ILs everything so they would stop giving me money. (They don't give us money)
I pushed her out of the house (not great I know) as she screamed abuse and said she would call SS and then get the first plane to Spain.

I feel awful I keep reliving it all in my head and having flashbacks. I guess I just want someone to tell me to get it together because I don't want to upset the DCs. But I am so scared she will call the police and SS on me.

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AussieSpirit · 31/10/2013 03:03

I've been lurking on MN for a couple of months now reading all the great advice/funny stories etc but thought it was time to join as I couldn't just read your post and not comment.

Please don't be concerned that your 'mother' will call the police. These type of people are cowards and are very manipulative. I completely relate to the situation you are in as I have a past similar to yours (my mother knew about the abuse from my step father, allowed it to happen and when I became pregnant at 14, she forced me to marry him - long, long story).

What I can tell you is that I tried so hard to make a relationship with my 'mother' work. It took several painful years for me to realise that she would never be the parent I wanted her to be and that she would never apologise. I made the decision to end all contact with her. It wasn't easy but it was the best thing for me. I can honestly say, five years down the track that I'm much happier for cutting her out of my life. The stress I was carrying in relation to her was enormous.

Your mother doesn't deserve your time or any consideration from you really. You just need to do what's right for yourself and your family. I know how awful the flashbacks can be and the questions that they can raise. Just be gentle with yourself. What happened to you was terrible but you've survived every day up until now and you will continue to. You don't need to get it together for anyone, just take your time.

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creepypenisreaper · 31/10/2013 03:52

Can you PM me her address so I can shit on her doorstep?

Sorry, I have nothing really unique to contribute, as other posters have already told you to (a) Cut her out of your life and (b) Ignore her empty, pathetic desperate threats as you have too much dirt on her. (c) Report the beast- you never know, he might have past convictions against him, which may make yours seem extra credible. It is worth a try- you may just save someone's childhood.

Be kind to yourself, you're a brave person Thanks

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kotinka · 31/10/2013 04:10

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Chubfuddler · 31/10/2013 04:25

Agree with the others; she's clearly mad. Cut her out of your life.

She's not going to call SS, and if she does you calmly tell them the truth: that your step father abused you as a child, and as she has chosen to get back together with him you have broken off contact.

So sorry you've been through all this but you are much much better off without her.

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brettgirl2 · 31/10/2013 07:36

Please take control of this. Find childcare for your dcs and go to the police, tell them everything (including you pushing her as then when she uses it as trump card she looks daft). Stop running, do what you can to stop them ruining your life and him doing the same thing to someone else.

Dh believes you, the people on this thread believe you.

Why are you scared of police and social services? The push I imagine would warrant a caution at the very most. If they took everyone's child away who had pushed somei,one there would be a lot of kids in care.

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FunkyFucker · 31/10/2013 07:43

Hey sweetie. I suspect he is back because you have kids. So you are absolutely doing the right thing. Do not let either of them near your kids again. You know the truth and don't let her nasty demands or threats sway you.

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CogitoEerilySpooky · 31/10/2013 07:44

Given the current series of celebrity cases in the courts - often where the victims have been prevented from speaking out or where they spoke out but weren't taken seriously at the time - I think the police are taking a different approach to cases like yours. Times have chanced, you're now an adult and, if you were to report it again, I think you'd be treated with much more respect and it would be investigated.

As for your mother... selfish is not the word for it. Bizarre behaviour.

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justnamechanging · 31/10/2013 07:51

Thank you all for your advice.
You are right about contact with my mum. I could never trust her with my DCs again now and my DCs deserve better than her anyway.

I shall go to see my siblings today to talk about where we go next.

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brettgirl2 · 31/10/2013 07:53

Talking to siblings good first step to taking control. You can do this Brew

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Longdistance · 31/10/2013 08:05

It's a shame you didn't record what your mother said to you about 'knowing' that you deserved it. Disgusting woman.

Just cut her off, and do not let her bully you into seeing the gc. Protect your dc, and yourself. Go back to the police and report him.

Good call to speak to your siblings.

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YoniMatopoeia · 31/10/2013 08:08

just you have done everything right. So sorry that you were dismissed when you reported.

I believe you.

You must have been very brave to report it back then, without the support of the person who should have been protecting you. The face that you did is in your favour now. If your mother does go to the police or ss then that report is on file. They know that many reports of abuse were handled appallingly back then.

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notanyanymore · 31/10/2013 08:10

Police and SS are well used to what they call 'malicious allegations' so I wouldn't worry about that.

Honestly, I think you should cut her out of your life and see therapy for the trauma you suffered as a child.

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fromparistoberlin · 31/10/2013 08:17

let her fucking call SS on you, just fucking LET HER
in fact, call her bluff. "Yes mum call SS, given the recent yewtree allegation I am sure that SS will be very keen on hearin my allegations against him"


so angry for you OP

she enabled an abuser OP, so if she wants to fucking open that can of worms, our friends at "operation yewtree" will be VERY interested

I am so sorry you were abused, time and time again I read heartbreaking posts and my heart bleeds for these poor children

I dont think you will ever have the strength to face her on this, as its SOOOO difficult.

I would cut her out to be honest. if you dont feel brave enough to tell her why thats OK

but this woman does not deserve you

and you said "it took me years before I told DH because I had convinced myself that no-one would believe me."

OP my dear, the only good things around the foul Jimmy Saville invcident its given a voice to children like you. WE ALL BELEIVE YOU, and police will too. how much do you bet he abused other people too? I bet he did.

sending love, and cut that bitch out (sorry!)

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CinnamonPorridge · 31/10/2013 08:21

Well done OP. I would go nc as well.

Don't worry about police or SS, she will stay well clear of them, because she knows how badly she has let you down as a child (and still does).
If she's deluded enough to "report" you, she will risk having her newly appeared ex convicted.

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kotinka · 31/10/2013 09:32

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Squitten · 31/10/2013 09:35

Meh - let her call whoever she likes. Even if they did show up, you just explain what's going on and that your mum is a huge trouble-maker. Really, don't worry about it.

Agree with everyone else that the best thing to do for yourself is to stay FAR away from her and from him. They'll bring you nothing but trouble.

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perfectstorm · 31/10/2013 09:36

Can you PM me her address so I can shit on her doorstep?

Best comment on the thread, IMO. I also volunteer. In fact I'll get DH and DS to donate to the cause too.

Hope you feel less shaky this morning, OP. And that your siblings offer you the support you so very truly deserve. Sending you a huge hug.

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WithRedWine · 31/10/2013 14:57

Reporting this now & forcing your mother to face up to the reality of who he is & her own complicity in the abuse would be the best thing.

In my experience, toxic mothers are only able to remain that way because they build cloud cuckoo land around them & lash out at anyone who doesn't play along. And of course your sf is more than happy to do so (perhaps because he is hoping that through her he'll have the opportunity to abuse your dds?).

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cjel · 31/10/2013 16:41

How awful for you OP. I hope you get support of your siblings today.x

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GhettoFabulous · 31/10/2013 17:18

Your mother is a paedophile - she didn't just collude in your abuse, she made you available to your step-father. I'm astonished that you've had any contact with her, let alone with your children.

I'm a social worker, and this is my professional opinion. Have nothing more to do with her.

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HappyJustToBe · 31/10/2013 17:27

I believe you and you did the right thing to remove your children. You are a better mother than she could ever hope to be.

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Dogonabeanbag · 31/10/2013 17:33

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RandomMess · 31/10/2013 17:34

Sad what an evil woman, I really hope you find the strength to report your step-dad to the police again.

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EldritchCleavage · 31/10/2013 17:35

Your mother will clearly do and say anything to avoid facing up to reality: her 'great love' is a child abuser only interested in young women and girls (which she is not) and she knowingly facilitated his abuse of her own child.

If anything, you should report to SS and get their help to keep both these awful people away from your children.

As for pushing her out of the house, as far as I know if you the occupant withdraw someone's licence to be on the premises by asking them to leave, and they refuse to go, you are entitled to use reasonable force to remove them. She will get nowhere with that.

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justnamechanging · 01/11/2013 19:54

Thank you for your advice

My mum hasn't called any authorities however she did visit my ILs.
Apparently she knocked on the door and she was pleasant saying she wanted a chance to explain and talk MIL let her in. Once she was in there she told them she was being picked on. ILs said that me and DH wouldn't pick on her so she told them I was horrid and that I hated them and basically told them about my step dads abuse but adding that I deserved it. FIL told her to leave in the end and then called DH and told him about it.

I feel so stupid and embarrassed because my ILs know everything. They don't believe it was my fault and they don't blame me. (They are too nice)
But I feel a bit awkward having them know everything.

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