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Can a parent with mental health issues look after a 17 year old?

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Blondie1969 · 25/10/2013 11:42

I am asking this question on behalf of a friend who is stressed out with her circumstances.

She separated from her husband on 20 years 18 months due to husbands alcoholism, emotional outbusts (ie anger, verbal abuse)

For that time she has been working full time, paying the mortgage and all bills and looking after three kids (17, 14, 8).

Her ex has a flat three miles away and took early retirement and in that period has spent the 30,000 redundancy on watches, brassware (!!) and not provided any money. He has been diagnosed as bi polar and then rediagnosed as having personality issues. He has the habit of getting up in afternoon and drinking and going to bed in early hours.

She has allowed limited contact with the two younger children (ie checking he is not drunk) but the two younger ones no longer want to see him.

However the main issue is the 17 year old. He over last 6 months has spent more and more time at Dads as he says "dad has no friends", "dad has no one to talk". her ex desparately want her back but its not going to happen.

her 17 year old has been missing school, staying at friends and not saying where over the last couple of months and when she has attempted to put boundaries in place:

ie Home by x on a school night, no drinking he has drifted more and more to staying at his dads who allows him to drink, allows him to smoke, does not ensure he goes to school, provides money for him to go drinking with friends.

There are times when son does get in touch to say he wants to come home as "dad is lying on kitchen floor drunk", "dad is saying he wants to end it".

I know this reads like an episode of jeremy Kyle but she is a professional, well educated woman and just wants the best for her son and is willing to pay for councilling (son will miss appts), willing to spend as much time with her son as necessary but it is all for nothing when the ex is a destructive influence and using emotional blackmail to ensure son stays with him. He is well educated himself but in last six years his mental health issues has got worse. He often will take all his drugs (not illegal ones but prescription ones for his health issues) in one go.

She does not know what she can do. She knows when i separated i found a lot of useful support and advice on this site.

Can she prevent a 17 year from being with his Dad (he is 18 in a months time).

She is seeing the traits in her son that she has heard her ex had at a similar age.

The evenings the son does end up back at hers it just takes a text from her ex to son saying "life is crap i need you here to talk to" and he goes back. The son is being played and the consequences could be very damaging.

Any advice will be welcome. feel free to PM if there are things you would like to keep private and away from others.

Thanks in advance.

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 25/10/2013 12:55

She can't really prevent a 17yo from doing what he want. The only real tool she has is persuasion. You only have to read here how responsible some people feel for their partners and ex-partners with MH conditions, how much guilt is involved and how easily those MH conditions can be used to excuse all kinds of bad behaviour, to know that it's a really tough dilemma. A kind, naïve 17yo who is feeling sorry for, loyal to and responsible for his Dad is going to be experiencing all of that and more. He doesn't have the tools to cope but he'll be trying his level best.

What I would suggest to your friend is that she may have to get professional help for her ex simply so that her DS can see that someone is dealing with Dad. But it's very difficult because that involves her assuming some responsibility which I don't think she needs any more than the DS.

As for the DS's own behaviour, the drinking is obviously worrying but there is more than Dad's influence at play. Peer pressure for kids that age to go drinking is pretty high. There she can try to be more forceful.

Puttheshelvesup · 25/10/2013 13:15

I left home at 16, lived on benefits and finished my a levels. The 17 year old cannot be made to do anything, if they want to see their dad they will. Just make sure that he has support emotionally as it must be awful seeing a parent in such a bad way. The real danger is the 17 year old making the well-being of his dad his own responsibility. Counsellors/ family therapists etc. could be an option in this situation.

trish5000 · 25/10/2013 14:25

You might get some more responses and help over on the Mental Health board.

As others have said, she cant do much to stop her son visiting his dad. But the son is getting sucked in. Sad

www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/speaking-to-gp-about-someone-elses-health.aspx?CategoryID=68&SubCategoryID=158

I have linked this in case it is of any help.

cestlavielife · 25/10/2013 17:09

on thos occasions "when son does get in touch to say he wants to come home as "dad is lying on kitchen floor drunk", "dad is saying he wants to end it".
she neds to advise son to call 999 so dad can get checked by health services.

other than that tehre is little she can do other than keep talking to ds abou setting boundaries and where his repsonsibilities end..a.nd telling him it is OK to call 999 and get help

also the mum if son calls saying dad is on floor can call 999 herself and ask police to go and check

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