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For those in abusive / unhappy relationships...

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TerrorTremor · 19/10/2013 16:24

If you have been in an abusive or unhappy relationship in the past, did they carry any of these red flags:

Question relationships with partners who:

•Abuse alcohol or other drugs.
•Have a history of trouble with the law, get into fights, or break and destroy property.
•Don’t work or go to school.
•Blame you for how they treat you, or for anything bad that happens.
•Abuse siblings, other family members, children or pets.
•Put down people, including your family and friends, or call them names.
•Are always angry at someone or something.
•Try to isolate you and control whom you see or where you go.
•Nag you or force you to be sexual when you don’t want to be.
•Cheat on you or have lots of partners.
•Are physically rough with you (push, shove, pull, yank, squeeze, restrain).
•Take your money or take advantage of you in other ways.
•Accuse you of flirting or “coming on” to others or accuse you of cheating on them.
•Don’t listen to you or show interest in your opinions or feelings. . .things always have to be done their way.
•Ignore you, give you the silent treatment, or hang up on you.
•Lie to you, don’t show up for dates, maybe even disappear for days.
•Make vulgar comments about others in your presence
•Blame all arguments and problems on you.
•Tell you how to dress or act.
•Threaten to kill themselves if you break up with them, or tell you that they cannot live without you.
•Experience extreme mood swings. . .tell you you’re the greatest one minute and rip you apart the next minute.
•Tell you to shut up or tell you you’re dumb, stupid, fat, or call you some other name (directly or indirectly).
•Compare you to former partners.

Some other cues that might indicate an abusive relationship might include:

•You feel afraid to break up with them.
•You feel tied down, feel like you have to check-in.
•You feel afraid to make decisions or bring up certain subjects so that the other person won’t get mad.
•You tell yourself that if you just try harder and love your partner enough that everything will be just fine.
•You find yourself crying a lot, being depressed or unhappy.
•You find yourself worrying and obsessing about how to please your partner and keep them happy.
•You find the physical or emotional abuse getting worse over time.

I was reading through this link that was posted on another thread and although I know my ex partner was very bad to me, I honestly didn't realise how bad he was. He had at least 3/4s of these traits, which is very worrying.

Do you think these red flags are useful for those who are concerned about their relationship, or do you think people can possess these qualities and not be abusive?

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Lahti · 19/10/2013 16:59

My STBXH had many of these traits, but not all at once and they increased over time (probably when he felt sure that I would overlook them). Regarding the other cues regarding the abused partner, I exhibited all of them all of the time.

Lahti · 19/10/2013 17:02

I think the 2nd list of clues is more useful to identify whether the relationship is abusive. The reason I think this is because until the abused partner is recognising themselves in the 2nd list of cues they (or at least I did) will always normalise or at least minimise the abusive partners behaviour.

ColinButterfly · 19/10/2013 18:13

I have been missing my ex so much lately. Thankyou for posting that list. I could call bingo on that first one. Every. Single. One.

TerrorTremor · 19/10/2013 21:43

It really does remind you why you left doesn't it?

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theywillgrowup · 19/10/2013 21:50

yep the majority of them

sad but true

TheRobberBride · 19/10/2013 21:58

My STBExH had at least half a dozen of these traits. Looking back, there were massive red flags from the beginning. It wasn't until I left that I began to realise just how bad things had been. I remember making a throwaway comment to some friends about how I was only allowed to spend a certain amount of money each week. They were apalled. I had thought it was normal.

WaitingForMe · 19/10/2013 22:03

Yes for most things on both lists. I left him 5 1/2 years ago and find myself thinking maybe he wasn't so bad and I was hard work and then I see lists like that.

I'm not sure if they would have helped but I'd like to see them covered at school.

MoreThanWords · 19/10/2013 22:11

Reading other threads on here has made me realise what a absolute abusive twatbastard my exh was (is).

Isolated me, financially, sexually and emotionally abusive. Gave me grief for spending time with my mum after my gran died; 'babysat' our dc; wouldn't get medical treatment for my eye infection on holiday, but did for him when he got the same thing; made me feel shit for having pnd and it being on health forms for mortgage etc; no involvement in dc education unless it involved taking/picking up in a flash car that he could talk loudly about in the playground; wouldn't let me claim tax credits; sulked when he didn't have sex; wouldn't stop intercourse even if I said it was hurting ..........

I could go on ......

He's still financially abusive after divorce; in the early days he would withhold maintenance until I stupidly consented to sex - AFTER we had been split for months. Where the fuck was MN when I needed it?!

I have been meaning to get all this down in writing for so long. Sorry for rambling.

DressingGown · 19/10/2013 23:00

MoreThanWords that is truly awful. Sorry you went through all of that. Thank goodness he's your exH.

TerrorTremor thanks for posting this.

BooHissy · 20/10/2013 12:23

If any of us have been with someone who ticks those boxes in the OP, yes, I think we can safely say that person was abusive.

However, it's important to understand that if something is unacceptable to us, and doesn't stop when we draw attention to it, then that is enough for us to make it a dealbreaker.

TerrorTremor · 20/10/2013 18:09

Completely agree Boo.

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