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Please help...I feel like my marriage is over...

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ScarletLady02 · 01/10/2013 20:29

It was our 3 year wedding anniversary on Sunday (we've been together 6 years) and DH has walked out today saying he needs space.

He is a recovering alcoholic (gave up drinking a month or so ago) but also addicted to cannabis (in my opinion...I don't have an issue with the social smoking of this drug so please, I'm really not after judgement).

We've been snappy with each other for a few weeks. My defence mechanism is to cry...I'm shit at arguing I really am, I try and hold it in but I can't. I don't make a big thing about it, I take myself off quietly and try to hide it but he seems to think I'm guilt tripping him.

Here is the text he sent me earlier

"Truth is, I'm not really feeling how I did before. I've started to notice since I sobered up how selfish and wrapped up in yourself you are, and the fact is that every time I tell you anything, you cry. Today isn't the first time you've done it, emotional or not, I'm not being held to ransom any more. Stay at (friend's house, we were there with our daughter when we argued and he stormed out) if you want but this is your home not mine. Sorry if what I've said is not what you want to hear but it's the only chance I've had without you crying and me having to back down because of that."

I can't see how I'm selfish...I really can't! All I do is think about him and our daughter. I get upset because he talks to me like shit! Then when I cry he says thing like "well if I'm so fucking horrible I might as well leave you both then", which makes ME back down and beg him not to go. He says horrible things to our little girl when he's stressed and I'm finally standing up to him over it. He still seemed to make that my fault as well by saying I don't step in enough to stop him getting stressed (she's 2 and hard work...I still manage to not shout and swear at her though).

I've just had enough I really have. I love him so much, all I've done is support him. Through his drug and drink problems etc. He's trying to get a career in the music business and I've been nothing but supportive. He lies to me about money and I don't confront him because I hate confrontation. I'm selfish?? Seriously??

I've been battling depression, I've been put on anti-depressants which haven't really helped and I've been trying to find my feet on, and my Mum has terminal cancer, we don't know how long she's got...so I may have been preoccupied...but I don't understand what I've done wrong.

The icing on the cake was this. He took the key and said he was going home to pack some things as he needed some space. I was at our friend's and she said he could stay there tonight if need be, which I told him. I was there trying to hold it together in front of our two year old. He knocked at the door, gave my friend the key and just left, telling her to tell me he didn't want to cause a scene. Our daughter heard her Dad (who she dotes on and asks for all the time when he's out) and then he's gone...so I have to deal with that as well. Then he texts me saying he didn't want to "make it hard for me and DD".

What a fucking coward...I'm so upset and angry, I don't know what to do. I've just settled my daughter and I'm indoors on my own with a bottle of wine, I feel at a loss. Parts of him I love more than life itself but I can't do this anymore. I always have to be the positive force in the wake of his moody negativity and it's fucking exhausting.

I've tried to put as much info as I can, I don't want to drip feed, but there is stuff I've missed out. I need to vent and I have no-one to talk to. I can't talk to Mum, she's too ill and thinks we're blissfully happy.

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Jux · 01/10/2013 21:28

Keep well away from him, he's a nasty piece of work. He blames you, he blames his dd, he's not taking one shred of responsibility.

Look after yourself, look after your dd, you'll be fine together. Have a duvet day tomorrow if you can, and just keep yourselves amused. Ignore him if he gets in touch. You need a few days to get your head round this and remember who you are.

ScarletLady02 · 01/10/2013 21:32

My friend is having her kids dropped off by their Dad tonight otherwise she'd be here with me. She's promised to come round first thing and we'll have a lazy day with the girls (her daughter is the same age as mine and they're bestest buddies).

It's just so sad...I tried so hard to be what he needed and I feel like a failure.

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ImperialBlether · 01/10/2013 21:47

Did he try to be what you needed?

AnyFucker · 01/10/2013 21:51

Why was it your raison'd'etre to be "what he needed" ?

ScarletLady02 · 01/10/2013 21:52

Yes...he has tried...for the vast majority of our relationship he's been a rock for me and we've been through so much. It's why it's hard for me to just write him off with what he's going through at the moment.

But then I think am I just trying to make excuses for him?

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ScarletLady02 · 01/10/2013 21:55

I don't know AnyFucker

I don't want to be one of those women who does the whole "I can make him change, he's nice really underneath" but I fear I've found myself there.

I like to think I'm smart you know...why does love make you do the wacky? (to quote Buffy).

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akaWisey · 01/10/2013 22:51

OK, I don't think it's possible for an actively drinking alcoholic to be anyone's rock. Nor is it possible for someone who's smoking weed to be anyone's rock. When drunk and/or stoned the whole point is YOU CANNOT THINK.

Perhaps being sober has made him question the basis of your relationship , perhaps he's looking for an excuse to drink again. Whatever, it isn't a healthy situation with both of you dependent on something or someone to fill the void.

KaseyM · 01/10/2013 23:00

Honey he's just trying to blame you for his failings. And the fact that he gets angry when you cry shows a startling lack of empathy. I mean of course you're going to cry because you're upset and you love him.

I know that you said you don't care about the cannibis but overuse can sometimes lead to something called depersonalisation disorder where the person is very detached and therefore lacking in the ability to empathise. Might be something to think about..

Albert27 · 01/10/2013 23:02

Totally agree with AnyF - why are you trying to be what he needed. The truth is you need to be who you are and not what you think you should be.

I've been there and it totally does your head in.

Yes, you've had good times. We all have with the various fuckwits of our past. I've just finally moved out after years of emotional abuse and bullying. I started to remember the fun times and questioned why I had wanted out. The rose coloured specs appeared and I questionef me and my failings all over again.

Then I just remember him calling me poisonous, bitter, angry, resentful and frigid. Cold and dead inside. That i needed counselling alone because i was the one with the problems. He was in the midst of an affair at the time.

Him kicking me under the table to stop me talking. Forgetting to book my flight on a group holiday. Laughing that he didn't know when my birthday was etc. a 45 min conversation about my haircut being a sign of a midlife crisis. Blah blah. Sorry ranting about my ex.

The truth is You need to be you. You need to like/love you. And you totally and utterly deserve someone that loves that you. This dickhead needs kicking into touch.

X

ScarletLady02 · 01/10/2013 23:15

You have no idea what those words means to me...you really don't.

It hurts so much but I can't see another way out...I haven't been happy in a long time.

I have no self esteem...I judge my self worth on what others think about me, I feel fat and ugly and like I'm lucky that he wants me...he tells me I'm beautiful and it makes me so happy...

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AnyFucker · 01/10/2013 23:18

He gives you the pretty words like sweets to keep you there. They mean jackshit if his actions don't match them.

ScarletLady02 · 01/10/2013 23:22

All the affection seems to be gone, we've always had a wicked sex life...now he seems like he doesn't want to be near me. I genuinely don't think anyone else is involved though.

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Albert27 · 01/10/2013 23:26

OMG - you sound like me. I have always worried about what others think/how I am seen. Bullied at school and then in relationship.

I started running. 5mins, then 10 etc. did my mental health good. I ended up running a half marathon. Ex commented on weight loss when previously said i wasnt at my ideal fighting weight!!

He laughed at my finishing time. And i thought FUCK YOU.

You can learn to love yourself but you will not do it while this man is around. You are a strong and amazing person seeking advice from total strangers to gain the strength to leave for you and your dd. I totally believe you have the strength within you to do it. X

ScarletLady02 · 01/10/2013 23:31

Aw don't Albert, you have me crying again now...I thought I had nothing left.

Such a massive part of me doesn't want to lose the good part of him, I just feel so conflicted and sad. I know when DD wakes up in the morning the first thing she'll ask for is her Dad and I don't know what to do...she loves him so much it's going to break my heart.

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AnyFucker · 01/10/2013 23:34

Would he not still care for his DD if he isn't in a relationship with you ?

Jux · 01/10/2013 23:40

Your dd will be fine, she'll adjust in no time - quicker than you will. Particularly when there's no one there being horrible to her. She's 2, she doesn't deserve that. Sad

Albert27 · 01/10/2013 23:42

Darling - I have a son. I've just got back to MY flat from work. My DS is with his dad.

My son loves his father and I will never slag his father off to him but my son and you daughter need to see a functioning relationship. We are their blueprint for how they form relationships. Your DS is young enough to cope with the change. They are resilient. We as women are resilient. Don't let him destroy you and your self esteem anymore. Take control. You can, you will and you must.

It is a long road ahead but it's a new empowering journey for you. Think about how he makes you feel. He should be the person to make you the best person you can be. And he is not doing that. X

AnyFucker · 01/10/2013 23:43

You would be very mistaken to stay for the sake of a 2yo

She will quickly adjust to a new normal. Imagine spending days just with daddy. Heaven for a little girl !

He would do that, yes ? Make sure he still fulfilled his responsibility as a parent ?

ScarletLady02 · 01/10/2013 23:47

I don't have any reason to think he wouldn't AnyFucker, it's just a reminder of the breakdown of the relationship. I'd never stop him seeing her (more to the point, I'd never stop HER seeing her Dad, that's how I like to look at it), even if he cheated on me with a thousand prostitutes, so it would be down to him, and as long as he's not bull-shitting about that as well then he'll be there for her. He looks after her a fair bit and is quite happy for me to go and do my own thing.

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Albert27 · 01/10/2013 23:47

And again agree with AF. My ex said I should stay with him til DS was 18. A friend pointed out it meant we were splitting up but that I wasn't allowed to leave for 13 years. I did not want my son to see his mother inhaling wine, smoking and generally being a bitter woman. Both my son and me (though ex said that was me being selfish) deserved better.

Since moving out two weeks ago, ex has been on a five-day bender and did not call out son. And has booked a two-week hol before Xmas and when son is six. And he got sister to put son to bed because he was tired. My son will work out for himself one day what his father is like. In the meantime, look after you now and the rest will follow. X

AnyFucker · 01/10/2013 23:53

So, you stick it out for another few years of being treated like a second class citizen

While your bright dd absorbs all those lessons

Eventually you leave him before you have no spark of self preservation left...except your dd is older, more knowing, more impressionable, more damaged.

Not a great prospect, is it

ScarletLady02 · 01/10/2013 23:55

I like to think he will get help and sort his shit out...he does have a lot to offer the world, but I don't think I can be the one to get him through it anymore...I want to see him happy and content and not so bloody angry at the world, and I thought we would achieve that with each other....but it seems not...

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ScarletLady02 · 01/10/2013 23:57

You're right AnyFucker...of course you are...

I'm just feeling a bit heartbroken about it all. I need a kick up the arse though, and thank-you for giving it to me. If I have one major flaw it is that I can be quite spineless when it come to relationships...I need some balls from somewhere...

May DH's stapled to the wall might help....

I don't mean that really...

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Albert27 · 01/10/2013 23:58

It is sad. But and it's a big but no woman has a child with a man they love and plans a separation/broken family/to be a single mum - all the labels we are given. But sometimes it's for the best - for our children and for our self esteem and for everyone's happiness.

It weirdly can be a positive and a good thing to do.

AnyFucker · 02/10/2013 00:03

Why will he get help ? He doesn't think he is doing anything wrong.