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Is it really that bad...because I feel like I want to boot him out

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EllieInTheRoom · 30/09/2013 20:06

I've been a lurker for months and posted once when I first found MN. Ive had to create a new account for this though as I couldn't remember what I'd registered under.

I'm in danger of either massively over reacting or massively under reacting and I would like some advice from some of you wise MNetters to probably do something in between.

I'll try and keep it as short as possible, sorry if it ends up dragging on...

DH and I have had issues for a couple of years now. Particularly during my pregnancy and in the first year or DS's life. He's 18 months now. DH was just a total selfish twunt, like many others probably. Very unsupportive, moody, downright mean on occasions. He also rediscovered porn and as a result we didn't have sex for 20 months. Last Christmas we nearly broke up but decided to try and work it out.

But then another issue came up, which was his work. He is self employed and works hard but dictates his own hours. For the first year of DS's life, he worked way too much and was out most nights. Infact, he was only at home for 47 evenings . I counted on the calendar once. He saw DS for a few hours every morning but because he was never home at night it meant 1) I could never go out with friends or to the gym, 2) I never got a break from the early mornings or sleep disturbance 3) it was hard to get my own work done and 4) I felt very lonely, we never saw each other and I felt our relationship wasn't recovering because of this, it is still very strained. To me anyway, he thinks its fine.

Two months ago, I snapped and said I couldn't go on and things had to change because I refused to live like this any longer. I said we didn't need money that much and laid down some rules. He had to have at least one day off a week, one weekend day a month and two evenings at home a week.

He stuck to it for six weeks. On Friday, he told me that this week he would be out every night working again, but quickly added that he had booked this week before my rules were implemented so he couldn't do anything about it. Then he proceeded to boast about the number of days off he had taken the last six weeks, how good he's been and suggested we have sex to celebrate as we haven't it for a while and tried to get me to thank him. I got annoyed at the time that he expected praise for a basic relationship requirement and forgot to ask the reasons why he had to work.

Anyway, I asked him today. He immediately went on the defensive and told me I never listen, it's impossible to tell me anything. He'd booked the work two months ago. I asked him what and which days and he said Thurs/Fri. It turns out the work he is doing tonight and tomorrow was definitely changeable and would only have been booked last week. I know this because I did the same work for the same people and still do sometimes.

I know for a fact he could have looked at his calendar last week, seen that he was working every night and decided to pass the work on to colleagues, which would have been easy because they all want more work. He didnt want to because he is in a mood with two of the guys he works with and didnt want to give them the extra.

So he has reneged on the agreement because of a stupid mood. I'll be on my own all week, struggling to get my own work done - ive a really busy week ahead - and look after DS

I know it might not seem the worst crime in the world but I feel like telling him to pack his bags. I resent the fact he tried to bluster over it by saying I don't listen to him to distract me from finding out the truth.

We didnt speak for an hour while I mulled over it. Then he started being really nice and sweet and went to work. I havent said my piece yet because I don't know what to say. Very often what would happen is it will just get left and add to the mountain of resentment, which is a permanent fixture in our front room and has a lovely decorative elephant on top of it.

How bad is it really? Thank you, if you've managed to get this far

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EllieInTheRoom · 10/10/2013 23:22

Ha, you just made me cry with your virtual flowers! X

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JoinYourPlayfellows · 10/10/2013 23:26

The icecream thing is NOT petty.

Honestly, it's incredibly out of order for one adult to tell the other adult that they are not allowed to have an icecream.

He treats you horribly and he just expect you to accept his shitty treatment and then be grateful when he decides to be nice.

That is because he has an abusive personality and he is seeking to control you.

Rather less successfully than he might like (so far), but he's really doing his best.

You don't owe him ANYTHING financially or morally.

Your business didn't do as well as you thought - that's life, it's how things work when you work for yourself.

Just get away from him as quickly as you can.

He's a violent, controlling bully and he's not going to get any better.

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AnyFucker · 10/10/2013 23:29

Wine ?

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nameimadeupjustnow · 10/10/2013 23:44

There's no ice cream icon! I want to send you ice cream. Smile

I'm glad you're working all this out, OP, and it can't be easy. Just wanted to agree with others that all finances will be on the table with the solicitors, so it's no reason at all to stay with a man who makes you feel bad about yourself.

All the best. [ice cream]

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EllieInTheRoom · 10/10/2013 23:44

Yes Wine!

Thanks join you've just fired me up a little bit more. Yes, the abusive twunt! Right, I feel like I can tackle this a bit better now, I'm glad I revived the thread tonight.

Next step, legal stuff. Then, give him the heave-ho.

I'll be back

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EllieInTheRoom · 10/10/2013 23:47

Got it name thanks, I'll eat it just before dinner tomorrow. That'll really piss him off

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JoinYourPlayfellows · 10/10/2013 23:54

Got it name thanks, I'll eat it just before dinner tomorrow. That'll really piss him off

:o Actual LOLs here!

You'll be so much better off without this prick trying to pick you apart.

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AnyFucker · 10/10/2013 23:56

Have an icecream/wine float

Floats. Remember them ? I used to have dandelion and burdock floats from the icecream van.

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JoinYourPlayfellows · 10/10/2013 23:57

Oooh, yes an icecream and prosecco float!

I'll join you in one of those tomorrow just before dinner time :o

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EllieInTheRoom · 11/10/2013 00:00

A pre-dinner ice cream and prosecco float would send him over the edge. Count me in!

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AnyFucker · 11/10/2013 00:08

If dinner is usually 7pm, sit down with your float at 6:50 Smile

Joking aside, do please stay safe x

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Leavenheath · 11/10/2013 01:04

Good luck, love.

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EllieInTheRoom · 12/10/2013 17:10

Need strength and help. I was going to keep quiet for a couple of weeks but a row earlier ended up in me saying everything. That for me, it's over.

He's like a rabbit in the headlamps. He's ill and been to the loo a lot. He says there's nothing he can say or do, he's obviously a twat but he's not leaving.

Then DS woke up and I took him out. Now H and DS are playing while I clean. We are going to have resume the conversation when he goes to bed.

I need to keep resolve and not feel guilty it's made him ill that's what always happens. How do I start it off again. he'd be quite happy to not talk again today i know it.

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EllieInTheRoom · 12/10/2013 18:08

Im not able to leave myself yet, it would be about a month before I am ready I think. I really want him to go, but he's just not going to is he. Shit, me a d my big mouth!

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JoinYourPlayfellows · 12/10/2013 18:21

Don't feel guilty that he's making himself sick to manipulate you into feeling guilty.

If he was in any way genuinely upset or sorry, he wouldn't be refusing to leave.

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GuybrushThreepwoodMP · 12/10/2013 19:39

YANBU. He is.

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Handywoman · 12/10/2013 19:41

OP don't worry . You have already said everything. Keep the talking to a minimum, tell him you are going to file for divorce and will be seeing a solicitor. That if he really cared he would do the decent thing and get out. Sleep in the spare room, go out tomorrow then solicitors Monday. If your safety is threatened at any point ring 999. Good luck OP.

Thanks

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EllieInTheRoom · 12/10/2013 20:42

DS in bed, H offered to make tea and has been sat on sofa watching telly and acting normal. This is weird. Room is crammed with elephants.

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Handywoman · 12/10/2013 20:46

You are up to your ears with trunky things. Bide your time and make a bee line for the solicitors.

Have some Wine

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Reality · 12/10/2013 20:53

Oh he is AWFUL. The ice cream thing is really bad, as it goes.

He will just stonewall you now and pretend you never said you wanted him to leave. Be prepared for that shit.

Wishing you lots of strength x

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EllieInTheRoom · 12/10/2013 21:05

I was dreading a showdown tonight but actually handywoman you're right, I don't need to do I. If he wants to play it like this, he can. He knows how I feel and if wont leave, fine, I will.

I can't for a few weeks but I will move into the spare room and carry on as normal until I can go with DS.

He did say, there was nothing he can do and nothing he can say, so there isnt a lot else to argue about is there. he can't honestly think I'll just stay

I just hate this victim act, you should have seen him with DS today, honestly, it was like he was up for an award

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EllieInTheRoom · 12/10/2013 21:07

Thanks for the strength reality

Oh and I would just love that glass of wine but there's only either a bottle of champagne or a bottle of Buck's Fizz (no idea how old that is). neither seem appropriate

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Handywoman · 12/10/2013 21:14

I was married to low-level abusive STBXH for fourteen years

I kicked him out.

His view: there is. 'no point in discussing it' (ever the victim)

Very hurtful.

This may happen to you.

If there is no access to wine IRL deffo have this Wine

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EllieInTheRoom · 12/10/2013 21:19

So you never talked about it? It just ended?

I said earlier that there is no way he loves me, he can't. He said how dare I project my feelings onto him. So he loves me so much he's not even prepared to talk about it and try and resolve it? It's just very weird.

But im cramp at confrontation anyway so this might actually suit me. Nothing more to say. Lets go

I'm starting to feel excited! Smile

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EllieInTheRoom · 12/10/2013 21:24

Oh yes and join I used an excellent line from one of your posts during the discussion today - that thing you said about him being horrible and then I'm expected to be grateful when he's nice. It hit the nail right on the head

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