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Please can I have some MN help? My head is in a spin.

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SelfDoubting · 18/09/2013 10:04

I have NC'd for this - well, created a new account because I couldn't figure out how to do it. I'm a regular lurker, occasional poster have been here for 18 months. I've always admired the honesty of the advice given here, and now I need some help please.

To give some background info, DH and I have been married 12 years, together for 16. We have 4 DCs aged 10 and under. I had PND after the first DC, it was a very difficult time where I was pretty sure that I didn't want to be with DH but as the tiredness eased and our very demanding toddler grew, the feelings came back. We have been OK ever since.

For the last year though, things have steadily gone downhill again. We have a demanding, active toddler and the sleepless nights that go with that. I'm not sure if this low phase of our relationship is caused by that, or if we have just come to the end of the line.

This is where I may go off on a tangent, because I am utterly confused by my feelings.

The last week or so I have been questioning my own sanity, and then I feel really angry that we have got to the point where I am wondering if I have depression, if I'm actually bipolar or something and I need proper psych assessment, and then I come back to thinking that actually I'm OK and how dare you make my life so fucking impossible that I am questioning my own mental health!

DH works long hours in a senior management position. I am currently a SAHM but going back to work; I was made redundant recently and have just got another job. We do need the money, his wages cover all the basics but we'd planned to save to go on holiday etc and that's what my wage will cover. I am absolutely terrified about going back. He knows this, and I think he should be trying to reassure me - for instance last night he strolled in from work over an hour late. I was starting to worry, he usually texts or emails so I know that he's not home at the usual time. He breezed in right on the DCs bedtime as though nothing unusual had happened, said he 'didn't think' to text and couldn't see the problem. The problem is that I will be returning to work twilight shifts (6 or 7pm until 1am) and I just don't see how I am expected to do that a) with a DH who swans in the door at whatever time he pleases (and expects a meal ready for him) and b) already exhausted through lack of sleep at nights (he doesn't help much), and having done the maddest part of the day with DCs alone.

I often feel that I would be better off alone. Having DH around is more work, emotionally and physically. I'm fed up of hoping for help and support and then feeling disappointed when it doesn't happen. If I knew I was facing life on my own, then I'd just get on with it rather than constantly feeling let down by the one person who is supposed to be there.

I've thought about ending the relationship, but it would destroy my DCs. I can't put them through that heartache. I've thought about Relate, or some marriage counselling but I don't know how we'd ever actually get there because DH is always at work, and we have no family support for babysitters in the evening.

Something has changed in our relationship, and I'm not sure what. I don't even know if I've got the energy to fight for it anymore. I'm sick of being the only one who appears to be trying to make this work.

Sorry its so long.

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NeedlesCuties · 18/09/2013 11:30

What was your relationship like pre-DC? Can you ever feel any flicker of that same love, closeness and equality?

I think anyone with 4 DC under the age of 10 would struggle, whether or not they have a supportive partner, so I take my hat off to you for that.

I had similar thoughts after the birth of my 2nd (and last!!!) DC. She was very demanding, totally different to my PFB, and I really was losing my grip of reality.

However, DH was supportive and tried hard to understand my thoughts even when I was ranting and raving. He also has a high-powered job, but works 8am-6pm 5 days a week, not like your DH.

Your last paragraph, to me, seems like it's just everything wearing you down. Your DH might bear the brunt of it, but is it really him that's the issue, or just the whole situation you're in?

What does he do to be helpful? Does he take the kids out and give you some peace? Housework etc?

Sorry for lots of questions, just trying to open up the discussion a bit.

You really do have my empathy and some sympathy.

Brew for us both.

TheOrchardKeeper · 18/09/2013 11:33

It sounds quite unequal & like you resent that a lot.

Have you tried talking to him about this at all? If so, how did he react? Does he realize you're considering life without him out of sheer frustration at the lack of help/support? Thanks

SelfDoubting · 18/09/2013 11:44

Thank you for the replies

Needles our relationship pre-DC was pretty much about trying for children. I lived my whole life for day 14 and trying to get pregnant. I worked long hours too, so the time we spent together was usually going somewhere, doing something. We had arguments, but I always put that down to the gynae problems I was having and frustration of not getting pregnant. I don't feel close to him anymore. I don't feel like we are in this together. Yes, everything is wearing me down, but when I don't have to think about DH then I seem to cope better. He does try to be helpful, he adores the DCs and spends time with them. He's not particularly useful around the house (think washing red t-shirt on hot with all the whites) and so the brunt of the housework falls on my shoulders. Also because I'm home all the time, I see it and I do it. I don't feel valued as a SAHM.

Orchard I do resent his job, you're right. I've always joked that his job is like the OW in our relationship... It's almost that it takes him away from us, as childish as that seems. I understand that this is a distorted view though because I'm at home, can be quite lonely at times and I've probably forgotten what its like to be at work all day, every day. I have tried talking about it with him. I don't think he understands entirely. He puts in extra effort for a while, then forgets again, or just slips back into normality - which is what happened last night when he was late.

This is such a mess. And I feel guilty thinking that this is such a mess when others are far worse off than I am.

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IDismyname · 18/09/2013 11:52

I wonder if a trip to your GP might be a good idea. If he/she was able to prescribe some ADs, that might help you a bit.

It would maybe allow yourself to see the situation a little more clearly - i.e Am I depressed and need medical help - or Am I just in the wrong place and need to make some Big decisions?

hellsbellsmelons · 18/09/2013 12:08

Why was he late home?
Is he often late home?
If it's not felt right for a year then I'd be sitting him down.
Try to get the kids looked after and put some time aside to really bash this out with him.
You talk for 10 mins without interuption then it's turn and then back again etc.....
Big question though - do you really love him?
When the kids are grown up and gone, will you happy to be with him for the rest of your life???
As someone else suggested - GP as well and maybe get some counselling for you!?

peggyundercrackers · 18/09/2013 12:13

OP would you rather your OH gave up his work? then what... surely your lifestyle would change dramatically too if he gave up his work - as a Senior Manager no doubt he has to be commited to his work and is under a certain amount of pressure to perform.

tbh being an hour late doesnt sound that bad to me but im not in your shoes. I would also expect if there are issues at work Senior Managers dont just walk out - part & parcel of the job.

SelfDoubting · 18/09/2013 13:07

blue2 I think you're right about going to GP. Not keen on ADs though. I do need to stand back and look at the situation. I need space to do that though. Space from DH, the DCs, everything.

hellsbells He said his meeting ran over. That's not unusual. What is unusual is that he didn't message me to let me know. Normally he'll send an imessage to say its running over. I don't know the answer to the big question. We do need to talk properly, but I need some space first to figure out where I am in all of this.

peggy I don't have problems with him being late, I think it is courteous to let me know though. I've wondered about the 'what if' he changed his work and the potential of a big lifestyle change. Its very unlikely to ever happen, but a girl can dream!

Thanks everyone, this is really helping.

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hellsbellsmelons · 18/09/2013 14:22

Can you get away from it all for a couple of days?
Maybe over a weekend so DH can look after the kids.
Just escape to a hotel and have some time just for you?
Not sure how do-able that is for you though?
If you need some space then you need to try to get this. It will help no end!

SelfDoubting · 18/09/2013 14:26

I'm still breastfeeding, so no way of leaving the youngest. I could take her with me, that's not impossible.

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