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I worry about being around DP when he's drunk

29 replies

pokenon · 17/09/2013 09:53

Lots of history in a relatively small space of time. First experience was that he went on a works night out and I offered to pick him up as he was coming back to my house afterwards and I thought I'd save him the taxi fare. This was very early on in our relationship, like 4 months in. It was the first time I'd seen him really, really drunk. He got in the car and absolutely stunk of alcohol. Almost immediately he started saying "you've had enough of me, I can tell. you don't like me anymore. you may as well drop me off here because I can tell you hate me" etc etc he went on and on. When we got back to my house he started saying "why do you even want to be with me anyway? you don't like me. It doesn't matter, it's not a big deal if we split, our relationship is meaningless anyway" etc etc. He was getting mean in the things he was saying but was no aggressive. I was devastated and went to bed thinking he was dumping me. Next morning - totally oblivious to what he'd said everything was fine and he apologised for being a twat and said he gets down and paranoid sometimes when he's drunk.

That Christmas I agreed to pick him up from another night out - this time he got in the car, started on me again but was actually quite nasty about it, started raising his voice at me and saying horrible things. After this incident I told him in future he'd be getting a taxi home.

Well time has gone on and there are too many examples of nasty aggressive behaviour when drunk to mention. A few examples of really bad incidences where he's come home and shouted at me, made me cry, said horrible things and just been a complete arsehole and a very recent example where he just went crazy and started swearing at me, jumping around, laying on top of me in bed because he said I took too much of his side up and he had nowhere else to sleep (!!) and suddenly screaming and shouting that I'd punched him in the face. I didn't obviously, turned out it was supposed to be an impression of me although I've never accussed him of hitting me, I just get a bit jumpy when he's drunk, aggressive and flinging his arms around! More in fear of being accidently hit in the process.

Anyway after the most recent example I said I couldn't cope with it anymore, I was becomming frightened of him and he'd said so many horrible things whilst drunk that I'm actually starting to become quite bitter and angry about it. We talked it through and he promised it would stop and never happen again.

Now, he's been invited on a works night out this coming Friday and has agreed to go. He wants me to pick him up as a taxi would cost us a fortune and he says he'll be coming home around 11.30 - midnight. I'm always wide awake at this time so it's not that it's particulary late for me. But I'm scared of how he'll be when he's drunk Sad I told him this and he promised he won't start. I know this has to be a very last chance and I'm scared he will mess it up Sad

OP posts:
TalkativeJim · 17/09/2013 10:13

I have no advice other than to leave him.

He not only has a problem with alcohol, but he is aggressive and (now that presuambly your relationship is more established) starting to be violent when drunk. Which basically means that he is a violent person.

Think about what you want from life, and the kind of partner you want to share it with. Do you want children? Do you want you and them to have a happy, stable home? It is massively unlikely to happen with a guy like this. However, you could waste years and sacrifice your childrens' childhood in trying.

You have no ties. Walk away. What he did by lying on top of you was domestic violence, by the way. He was drunk, heavier than you, out of control - he could have suffocated you. I for one would not be hanging around to see if next time's speciality would be his hands around my neck.

Get out now.

kalidanger · 17/09/2013 10:19

You've posted about him before? I think I remember the "you've had enough of me, I can tell. you don't like me anymore. you may as well drop me off here because I can tell you hate me" stuff...

So, it's got worse? Sad

AttilaTheMeerkat · 17/09/2013 10:19

What needs of yours are being met within this here?. I fail to see what you are getting out of this.

This man does not care about you in the slightest, all he cares about is where the next drink is coming from. You are seeing the real him.

He's had more than enough chances and his primary relationship is with drink. They talk the talk and tell you what you so want to hear i.e it never happening again but it always does. Life with an alcoholic is like living in a nightmare.

Why are you still together, what is keeping you within this?. The hope he will change?. I am sorry but you cannot love someone like this better, all he is doing now to you is dragging you down with him. Do not allow him to do that to you.

maidmarian2012 · 17/09/2013 11:05

Oh God, my XP was like this, it's pathetic. He said stuff like "I'm off, I know you still love your ex/don't love me/won't stay with me, so take care, see ya....." etc.

It did my bloody head in. I don't know where it came from, I can only deduce that the drink made him self-pitying.

All other posters are right, what else will his drunken behaviour morph into? My XP got arrested for beating me up when he was drunk. I was 7 month pregnant.

Find a man who won't make you uncomfortable and nervy, your P sounds like a wanker OP. Sorry, but I've seen/experienced this before and I know exactly how they carry on.

JustBecauseICan · 17/09/2013 11:34

"What's said when drunk has been thought of beforehand".

He needs to go.

Pawprint · 17/09/2013 11:43

Don't like the sound of this, OP. Not good at all. For a start, you're not his bloody chauffeur. Secondly, you shouldn't have to put up with an abusive drunk.

I would ask him to stay over in a hotel on Friday. I wouldn't want to be around someone like him when he's vvv drunk.

Repeatedlydoingthetwist · 17/09/2013 11:49

OP if he cared enough about you and your relationship and he knows he gets like this he really wouldn't be drinking.

KatyTheCleaningLady · 17/09/2013 11:53

Is he promising not to drink, not to get drunk, or just not to kick off? Because if he drinks, he will get drunk and kick off.

HopeClearwater · 17/09/2013 12:01

He's an alcoholic. Why live like this, OP? Life is too short. It really is.

Wellwobbly · 17/09/2013 12:01

Please, please please do not get pregnant.

  1. Did you know, that not only women drinking affects babies, down to the level of grandchildren? Men's drinking is also passed on genetically.
  1. Abuse escalates in pregnancy.
  1. this man has an alcohol problem, an anger problem, and an attitude problem.

Don't be afraid of being alone, OP. You are worth so much better than this.

On Friday, record him on your phone. Good luck, so glad you know you have to draw a line and that it is down to HIM, not you.

HopeClearwater · 17/09/2013 12:04

I should be clearer. This all happened to me. I'm sure your DP does care about you. However his primary relationship is with alcohol at the moment. You cannot alter this. He has to. You cannot make him alter it either.
Please consider contacting Al-Anon to find out more about alcoholism and addiction.
Take care of yourself.

cestlavielife · 17/09/2013 12:15

it isnt worth it.
dont pick him up.

dont give him a chance; it's not worth it.

you can decide to manage it by never being wilingly around him when drunk eg don't provide taxi service, tell him to stay eslewhere after night out.

but that wont be sustainable if you have kids and live together will it?

PottedPlant · 17/09/2013 12:25

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EhricLovesTeamQhuay · 17/09/2013 12:50

What do you get out of this relationship? Why are you still with him?

ImTooHecsyForYourParty · 17/09/2013 18:06

The single most important thing you must understand is that alcohol does not change who you are

Alcohol lowers inhibitions. That's what it does. It means you say those things you think but dare not say when sober. do those things you would like to do but daren't while sober.

Please understand that you are not seeing a different person. You are seeing HIM. He is showing you the core of him. That which is inside him but he hides for fear of consequences.

Believe what he tells you when drunk.

He means it.

ImperialBlether · 17/09/2013 19:15

Oh god, this made me shudder. Why on earth do you want to stay with this man? You imply that you don't live with him. I hope this is the case. I would tell him to fuck off. I really couldn't be doing with that kind of behaviour. You must feel like you're walking on egg shells.

Bowlersarm · 17/09/2013 19:19

'Drunkards never lie' they say.

OP, no one would want to live with this man.

GetStuffezd · 17/09/2013 21:26

Yes. He will do it again this Friday. And we will be here to help you through it when he does.
But you know, you could release yourself of this misery and worry by finishing this relationship?

whatdoesittake48 · 17/09/2013 22:23

My ex did exactly this shortly into our relationship too. Got drunk, tried to get me to admit I didn't want to be with him.told me it was my chance to split with him. Even climbed out into a rooftop and threatened to jump. I had known him for about a month.

For the next two years he physically and mentally abused me until I had no idea which way was up.

I should have listened the first time he told me he was no good and so should you.

pokenon · 18/09/2013 09:11

We do live together, we didn't when all this began though.

I try to think how I act when drunk and yeah, I probably do say the things I think when I'm sober but dare not say due to politeness and fear of consequences. Thankfully - I'm a 'nice' drunk - the annoying type that just loves everyone and everything and thinks nothing of telling the world Blush

But yeah I am taking on board what everyone is saying and I like the idea of recording him. I have an iphone so I'll make sure voice recorder is on before he gets in the car and if he starts, I'll play it back to him Saturday morning and tell him this is why I'm leaving. He can't pretend not to remember then can he.

OP posts:
something2say · 18/09/2013 09:16

Don't pick him up.
Absolutely not.
When he asks why, tell him.
Avoid when drunk.
X

JustBecauseICan · 18/09/2013 09:18

He's not scared of you when you're drunk though is he?

something2say · 18/09/2013 09:24

What you are saying tho is that you hope he will see what he does and change.

Most abusive people don't change.

In choosing this man, you have gone to the shops and bought yourself a pair of trainers and they do not suit you.

You now want to get a mirror and show the trainers that they are trainers, and ask them to change into flip flops.

Do you think he will? Maybe this is who he actually is?

something2say · 18/09/2013 09:25

Other advice tho.....if you stick it out for a while to see if he does change, keep your phone nearby and use it if you are scared of him. Ring the police and give your location immediately x

KatyTheCleaningLady · 18/09/2013 09:28

I have noticed that a change for the nasty is ALWAYS a sign of a drinking problem. And not all alcoholics drink a lot. They just can't handle it when they do. A normal person becomes sloppy and loud in a happy way. Perhaps maudlin if they're drinking at a wake or something, but that's a normal reaction. It just amplifies their state of mind. If they seem to go through a personality change and are abusive, then they should never drink at all.

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