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What happens when Granddparents make no effort?

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MommyBird · 14/09/2013 10:59

I have posted before about my PIL but now i really need some help as i feel this situation is getting really silly now.

I'll give you abit of back story first of what used to happen.

We have a DD1. MIL refused to stop smoking around her as it was her house and she'll do what she wants in it, if it bothers us that much don't bring her up.
So we didn't. She comes to our house once a week to visit.
My husband then worked part time. MIL also works part time, they both finished about 1/2 in the afternoon ao he would drive to pick her up from work, take her home, drive her to our house, she would sit on the sofa, moan for an hour, drink tea and then husband would take her home.
This worked fine untill she started cancelling alot saying that it was awkward for her.
So we set days aside which was best for her, she'd cancel..we asked when it was best for her which was evenings so they came down then, still cancelled, then changed to weekends, she'd cancel..this went on and on. my husband was allways the one taxing her about. she has never made any effort.

It was allways last minite or the night before. we would change and cancel plans, we'd waste weekends/days off where she would cancel.
We would invite her on days out, meals out and she would accept..then cancel.
We had a word with her about it and she flipped, mananged to turn it round onto us, blame us,.moaned shw didnt see dd1 enough etcetc.
This went on for about 3 years..guilt trips, bending over backwards, us making all of the effort, going out of our way for her..so on.

About 4/5 months ago FIL got a car. They could only do weekends. Fine. So for a few months (still cancelling btw!) they came down either sat or sun afternoon.
Weekends were so awkward for us cause of how early my husband had to get up for work and other reasons but we didnt say anything and let them come down.

Now almost 4 years old.
Husband is now working full time, up early every day of the week and is finishing alot later (say about 4/5)
dd1 has started Nursery 5 days a week and has to be there at 8am, and we now have a 4 week old dd2 who is nocturnal..all this happened within a month. its.hectic and exhausting!

Due to husbands new hours we cant do weekend visits anymore as there arn't enough hours in the weekend.
We told MIL weeks before that within that 1 month what would be happening so she could organise transport/buses. she ignored us.

We told her weekday visits would be best, she finishes early, the bus stop is right outside her work and brings her round the corner from our house, she catches them every day to and from work, she is early 40's, healtly and lives about 10-15 mins away by car..30 mins by bus..5 afternoons to choose from.
She refused and wanted my husband to pick her up from work..he couldnt due to his hours (she wanted him to pick her up the day i'd given birth to dd2 after being awake for 24+ hours!)

Its now been 3 weeks since she has seen our girls as the ball is in her court now to organise herself and to make the effort. This doesnt sound alot to some people but if we hadn't of picked her up when it was down to my husband, there would of been a massive argument and we would of been denying her access to them.

Its annoyed us both SO much as for years we had to make the effort and go out of our way so she could come down.
Now its down to her she cant be bothered.
They arn't short of money so they could even catch a taxi!
FIL texted to say that she misses the girls so much.
If she does, why doesnt she come and see them!?

What would you do?
Would you just leave her to it?

I think ive covered everything. Sorry its so long!

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NeedlesCuties · 15/09/2013 13:27

I think mommy your best bet is to not say anything - don't challenge her or get into a "you said, we said" row with her.

Just don't offer to meet her places, let her stamp her feet. When she sees that you aren't going to move mountains to accommodate her wishes then she might buck up her ideas.

...or she might not. She simply might just switch off and let the relationship (or potential relationship) with your DDs turn to dust. That's a scary thought, that she really won't be as involved in the healthy way you want her to be.

:( But I'd leave the bulk of this and thinking about it to your DH. You need to focus on your kids and focus on the good people who bring happy things to your lives. Let you DH speak to her if she makes contact, that way neither he nor she can say it's you not involving her.

CookieDoughKid · 15/09/2013 16:04

You have a choice!! You do not have to listen to her negativity. If she has nothing positive or constructive to say, she can talk to your hand. Just drop your eexpectations of her. If she can be arsed to organize herself like a normal non toxic person than great. If not, leave her be. It's not with your time or energy because I bet your life is busy enough!

I'd seriously say fuck it for a bit and don't chase her!

CookieDoughKid · 15/09/2013 16:07

You're trying too hard to impress and conform by the way to an 'ideal' . its not getting you anywhere so time to change tactics and concentrate on the people who really matter and who add to your lives. This stress is not worth it.

Chocotrekkie · 15/09/2013 16:14

I would ignore them tbh.

The kids will grow up knowing who loves and is interested in them.

My 2 adore my mum , are quite fond of fil and his wife but have no interest at all in mil.

Their choice not mine.

Mil has just phoned to say they are off on their holidays and when dh mentioned dd's birthday next week (just in a we are in the middle of making a cake conversation) said she had forgotten all about it despite asking a couple of weeks ago what she wanted. Asked him to buy a £10 amazon voucher for her. Hmm

MommyBird · 15/09/2013 17:19

MIL likes giving out money. Which is lovely.
I think this maybe ber way of showing affection?
She'll give dd1 £20+ pocket money if she hasnt been down for a few weeks.

She's 3. She has no concept of money and doesn't really understand it. She would love a colouring book and new crayons, simple things.

When we have been having an argument about her we have often said 'we cant say that as she's given XYZ that money'..its kinda like she's given that money as a bribe? Or its ok she hasn't been down for a week or so cause shes just given us that money..
Dd1 would prefer to see her and plan than be given a purple piece of paper.

She promises alot of stuff aswell...that she'll see dd1 next week and will paint/colour..then cancels..or says she'll buy her a certain thing then never boths..why say it?!
and my favourite is she'll say 'i saw this lovely dress/top/toy/book/shoes etc and was going to buy it for dd1 but i didn't'..why mention it? :/

i feel im just ranting now! Sorry!

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Chottie · 15/09/2013 19:55

I am a GM and I do not understand your MiLs attitude at all. You sound a lovely caring DiL who really wants your MiL to be part of her family. I hope I am lucky enough to have a DiL like you when my son gets married......

The time I spend with my DD, SiL and DGS is so special, I really feel privileged to be part of their lives.

MommyBird · 15/09/2013 20:10

Chottie - Thank you! That is so sweet :)

I allways used to think that when i married i'd be getting a 2nd mum! Be able to go out for coffee, meet up and take the kids out, go shopping and all of that kind of that..m gutted a realtionship like that will never happen.

Im just thankful that my parents are the exact opposite of her.
They see the girls everyday and do things like make mud pies and do things that grandparents so. They walk the walk aswell as talk the talk.
They've helped out with dd2 aswell and been supportive. :)

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nancerama · 15/09/2013 20:12

I think you're going to have to leave them to it.

DH and MIL had a falling out before DS was born. I was hoping that the birth of her first grandchild would bring them closer together, but they are stubborn. MIL has seen DS twice and he's 2 now. It makes me sad that DS has no relationship with his grandmother, but I've sent her photos and don't know what I can do to help the situation.

Our children deserve better, but at least DS has never had a relationship with her so can't be hurt by her lack of interest.

I think the best thing you can do is to surround your children with people who love them and matter to them.

kinkyfuckery · 15/09/2013 20:19

Last time my (now ex) MIL came to see the kids was when DC2 was born. DC is now 5. She sees the kids occasionally if they happen to be at ex GPILs at the same time. Meh, her loss!

kinkyfuckery · 15/09/2013 20:20

Time before that was when DC1 was about 6 weeks old. DC1 is 8 1/2 now by the way!

FrameyMcFrame · 15/09/2013 20:24

My DDs grandparents have never sent birthday or Christmas cards, never phone or visit. Have absolutely no interest in her whatsoever.

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MommyBird · 15/09/2013 21:57

I'd rather have no contact than have her picking up and dropping them when she feels like.

Its made us angry that if it was the other way round, and it was us not picking her up and she'd of gone 3 weeks without seeing them, we

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MommyBird · 15/09/2013 21:58

I'd rather have no contact than have her picking up and dropping them when she feels like.

Its made us angry that if it was the other way round, and it was us not picking her up and she'd of gone 3 weeks without seeing them, we would of had texts gut tripping us, making us feel bad that we was denying her her grandchildren.
I guess im just annoyed as ourselves for making the effort for so long when she clearly isn't that bothered to return the favour.

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