Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

How much damage is XMIL causing the dcs with her comments?

26 replies

McNameChangey · 10/09/2013 10:04

XMIL has always been a difficult character. XH always avoided her as much as possible and thought she was unpleasant. It should have been no surprise when XH turned out to have a lot of similar character traits. But that's all in the past now.

Sort of.

In the past few weeks the dcs have told me about some incidents whilst with XH. Now whilst these aren't physical abuse, they do amount to potentially dangerous neglect and emotional abuse. I've spoken to NSPCC, HV, GP, SS and a solicitor, all of whom advised me to stop contact until CAFCASS could assess because if something happened and I knew, I would be complicit.

My solicitor wrote to him, he threatened court, I said great, he has yet to apply and now hasn't seen the dcs since early July. I've offered supervised access until a decision can be made.

I want access for the dcs, they do love their dad, but he was sexually, emotionally and physically abusive of me, and I know I am used to being bullied into doing things I'm not happy with, which is why I am deferring to the courts to tell me what is right. I worry I've let the dcs down by not protecting them, but in fairness I have only recently been told the full extent and although I feel terrible guilt I have no choice but to protect them.

A few weeks ago I asked XH if he would consider phoning the dcs regularly (he never had before, he'd see them once a month for a weekend and no contact in between). He is now calling them, but has ignored my offer of supervised access. He does pay maintenance at csa rates regularly.

Sorry, that's all just background.

So, to XMIL. Since we split I have been completely flexible about her seeing the dcs. She usually calls maybe once a fortnight to ask if she can have them for a few hours, and I've never said no (although occasionally suggested another day).

One of the things I had discovered recently is that XMIL's dog had been aggressive towards the dcs within the past 8 months. So since I found this out one of the conditions for them going there is that the dog must be either shut in another room or outside or wherever, but not with the dcs (it's a collie and large and nervy).

So, to the comments she has stated:-
Her "I see mum has a new car? You must be well off"
Ds1 "erm, no not really"
Her "no, that'll be XH's money paying for it"
(I've just sold my 4 year old car for a 10 year old one and some extra cash)

Her "why won't your mum let you see your dad? He's devastated and there's no reason for it"
Ds1 "I don't know anything about it"

Ds2 (only 8) "why did mum and dad split up?"
Ds1 (who remembers but shouldn't have said it) "because dad was ill and used to get angry"
Her "that's not true! Your mum gets depressed (ds1 didn't know this since my depression had never crossed into abuse and he saw the two as synonymous), it's not just XH's fault!"
(The party line throughout had been a simple mum and dad don't love each other anymore, no blame has ever been attributed)

Her "you can't come to my house anymore because your mum has banned you from seeing the dog. The dog who loves you and is in no way dangerous"
(I have witnesses who have seen xmil physically restraining said dog whilst it tried to bite dd in the face)

Anyway that's a few of them. She can't understand why I won't consider mediation (solicitor said that given the abuse I suffered it would never be recommended for me), clearly thinks I'm a money grabbing evil bitch who abandoned her son whilst he was ill with depression.

I've never told her all the things he did. She wouldn't believe me anyway (even if I showed her the texts he sent admitting it, and the notes he wrote apologising for it). I suspect XH hasn't applied to the courts because he might be faced with evidence of who he is and that might get back to his mother.

My worry is that the dcs are being damaged by her snide remarks about me. Ds1 just rolls his eyes and says "grandma was bitching about you again", but ds2 is very literal and believes what he is told. He was very young when it all happened, and although he was scared of XH, that has faded and he now adores him.

XMIL is a very aggressive woman who would deny saying any of the above if confronted.

It's usually only one small comment a visit, it's not constant. And other than this the dcs enjoy going to play there.

Any advice at all on any aspect would be great.

Thanks for getting through that mammoth post.

OP posts:
Jux · 11/09/2013 09:45

Your son is already feeling responsible for the relationship between you and his grandmother and that it is his duty to ameliorate it. He is feeling guilty and ashamed that he has not stuck up for you or defended you against her. He will either try to fight your battles harder next time which will brong her wrath down on his head too, or he close up to protect himself from the hurt; this will have the knock on effect of making him secretive as he will not feel able to talk to you about it, due to his feelings of guilt, shame, and his split loyalties.

This will then also happen to your younger child, in turn. Et voila! You don't need to have got rid of your ex, as the children will be fucked up anyway.

Go no contact. You don't have to state it formally to anyone - least of all your children - just be busy. When she wants to see them, they've got things on. Don't answer calls from her. Block calls, set up a filter/rule so that emails go into junk automatically.

At least document everything, including what your children tell you.

Tell the school. Just because she works there doesn't mean you have to be careful about what you say. You can talk about 'their grandmother' without naming her as if she were as unknown to them as most gms would be.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread