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advice please, my world has ended

13 replies

mummycooper · 25/08/2013 04:52

im sittin here its 4am sunday morning, I haven't slept as my husband of 6 years dropped the bombshell he cheated on me whilst a close friend of mine, once when I was 7 months pregnant with baby 2 and away on a break with my now 2yr old son with me mum and dad, he told me they did it in me living room then, how sick,.. second when I let her stay the night after her and her partner had a fight whilst I and my son were fast asleep,, and third when he was round her house to have so called drinks with her partner and watch boxing.i asked for all the gritty details, wish I hadent tho made me feel worse, I feel so depressed im stressed cant stop crying and im due 4th September...., was wanting a vbac as had elective c sec with my son as he was born with gastroschisis, I don't think I can labour now and go through labour with him in the room, the stress of this awful affair and the pain of labour, hes even taken that from me the birth experience I wanted, I feel a c sec is safer as im worried il go anytime now, still want him there to see his baby born but how can I cling to him for support. awful thing is my bitch of a mate still was round me house up till a week ago him there with me them chattin away like frig all ever happened, hubby said it ended 2 mnth ago, it was a mistake bla bla if so it wud have happened just the once, its unforgivable the way they have deceived me. wot do I do????? im in pieces

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Vivacia · 25/08/2013 04:58

One thing at a time. No need to make decisions about September right this minute.

What's the situation right now? Has he left the house? Do you want him to?

pablo23 · 25/08/2013 05:11

dear mc so much i could say, considering that you cant do labour is not an option (sorry but fact of life) and what ever way you will have a child and unconditional love that only mothers really get. he has admitted it (the horrid act) and therefore i feel he still loves you, its painful but yet so many other woman would want back the man who has done as he has. i agree with Vivacia, you are heavily pregnant take stock and take time with decisions. your friend is a no mark and your husband must think so too, else he wouldnt have told you. your priority now is you and your child and his confession puts you in total control. ignore him for a few days, relax and know your 'cyber' friends are here to listen, honestly xxx

pablo23 · 25/08/2013 05:12

let me know you are ok

lunar1 · 25/08/2013 05:15

I'm so sorry you are going through this. Do you have anyone in real life to support you? Can you ask someone to support you in labour, you really don't have to have him there if you don't want.

pablo23 · 25/08/2013 05:23

lunar1 you are very correct on real life support i apologise i just felt that sometimes these forums are a last resort to get back on track. you gave great advice. my term cyber was inappropriate. However on balance i believe the husband truly loves mum to be so it is worse than if he out right walked out. fortunately he has lost any negotiating rights, for life. small consolation, but useful.

AlwaysOneMissing · 25/08/2013 05:38

I think he has admitted this because he knows you are due to give birth to DC4 and thinks you are vulnerable and need him, so you will be almost forced to forgive him and take him back.

He is the lowest of the low. He has been sleeping with your close friend while you are pregnant with his child.

It doesn't get much worse than that.

A female body is a powerful thing, have faith in yourself - you can grow and birth a baby (even if by cs) and you do not need your lowlife H there for you to do that. Choose someone you trust (DM? Dsis?) to be with you for the labour and make plans to LTB.
Disgusting behaviour from 'D'H and I totally disagree with pp that this shows that he loves you. That's a funny way to show someone you love them!

Ett36 · 25/08/2013 07:32

one step at a time. so very very raw still. as first post said one thing at a time. the priority is u and baby and your DC. if you are vbac there's every chance you will still be fine. gosh I'm so sorry for what you're going through. don't rush decision about cs.

wishiwas18 · 25/08/2013 08:49

So sorry to hear about your situation. Do you have people who can support you right now and help you look after your children so you can take some time for yourself?
Is it worth talking to your midwives?I'm sure they'll have seen this situation before and could advise on what other women did. Don't forget your needs and wants will be put first in the delivery room whatever you decide. If he starts in there you can chuck him out any time you want. Sorry, but he's lost the right to be there through his betrayal. DON'T take that guilt on board. The best thing you can do for this child is to make yourself as comfortable and empowered as you can so you can deliver(however you do it) as safely as possible.
You will be in shock at the moment. And your hormones will be all over the place. So although it is all you can think about, don't feel you have to make any decisions now. Keep talking to real or cyber friends. Take care.

RhondaJean · 25/08/2013 09:40

To echo others, you do not need him there.

It is up to you if you feel generous enough to allow him to see his child be born or not. You control that.

Who else is around you? Friend, sister, mother? For support. And yes please tell your midwife and please do it tomorrow whether you have an appointment or not, I don't mean to scare you but could he have passed you an Sti? They would want to check that before you labour.

What an arsehole. And I have no words for her. I'm so sorry you are going through this. Does her husband know?

AnotherStitchInTime · 25/08/2013 10:01

What a horrible situation, I am so sorry that this is happening to you.

I agree with what others have said. During labour you will be at your most vulnerable, you need someone there who you can trust and relax with. Can your mum be there for you instead?

Do speak to your midwife asap about an STI check, but also I know my hospital does a one to one midwifery care service for certain women, it might be worth asking if they do. That way you could have the same midwife for the rest of your care and labour.

Also you might be able to find a doula to support you, trainee doulas cost less than fully qualified (Doula UK do have a charitable free service to those on low income, but you have to find a willing doula).

mummycooper · 26/08/2013 23:33

hey everyone, thankyou all for your advice, ive been like a zombie since Saturday, its been hell, ive sobbed buckets screamed at him, talked to him screamed more, ive just been concentrating on trying to stay strong for bump and for my wee boy and put on a brave face. iv confided in a friend, a good friend who is genuine and like you all absolutely disgusted at my husband for what he has done. ive gotten a clearer picture as to why and how he has behaved so disgracefully and been so deceitful, theres no excuse but he pins blame on having depression since our 2 year old was born with gastroschisis and having been very ill when born. he found it a struggle as I did but he needed antidepressants whilst I got on with being a mum and just delighted when my son was finally home after 2 months in hospital I just threw myself into mummy mode, anyways that was 2 year ago, this girl who I got to know through mum and tots group,, I grew fond of, she got on well with me I got on well with her daughter and she got along with my hubby, she was different tho, streetwise, had hard upbringing came across tough tho once got to know her a bit gave her benefit of a doubt, she was very tomboyish drinks beer likes football and I was happy that we all got on. I trusted her she even helped me move house, I didn't blink an eyelid when she txt my hubby the odd occasion as felt she was a mutual friend, how gullable am I ?? after a while tho I started wanting to distance myself from her, we had her and her fella round for bbqs,, meals out round for drinks and all they did was fight at end of the night swearat each other and on one occasion he got rough with her so course I was there for her told her to come round mine anytime she needed, fell out with her partner etc. I noticed she took to drink too much and then find he her fella likes to get stoned etc so started to grow weary, she also stayed with her partner even when I said she should leave, (theyre as bad as each other), and I started saying to my husband they are friends we don't need in our lives and he agreed, he even said for me to unfriend her and was agreeing with me, (obviously now feeling guilt etc for what he had done) I was oblivious so still txt to have her round with her kid just to show I hadent disowened her completely,..she was round last week even, and when hubby came home he was quiet with her stayed upstairs and he wasent very friendly to her which at the time i was cross about,,I now know the reasons was cuz he cheated and felt sick her being there. since iv found when he told me the affair I rang her screamed at her, she said sorry, my hubby rang her said he loved me etc to her, she then txts to say it was a mistake and shes sorry, I replied ya don't do that to a mate, that she was twisted that hubby even said wot they did was shit( if it was why 3 times, still cant understand it) then the bitch says that herself to me,{ o well he wanted her as much as him, yes they wer drunk each time but he cudve said no. etc etc etc, awful things) that's true but feck she really valued our friendship if she really felt sick with guilt why even get nasty to me, wot had I dine to deserve it??? even to respond like that. o and forgotten to mention when I was 36 weeks preggers I took her to hospital as she cut her wrists, first person she txt was hubby, he showed me msg as thought she wasent serious and told me to get ambulance at her house ,tho I race down to hers,, her bleeding, her fella drunk and stoned, I take her to hospital she says she wants to end everything, like I was stressed that night worrying for her, luckily her wee girl was at her grannys (social servicesd so needed) I thought prob cuz of the way her and her fella acts towards each other the violence rows etc, now got truth that she did it cuz she told my husband she loved him and he told her he wanted her out of his life.
( bunny boiler)!!!!!!seems now each time they got physical they both done it through drink, him tellin her his problems, her telling him hers, her knowing he had depression, tellin him wot he wanted to hear, he was gorgeous even saying I don't gv him enuf attention ( im heavily pregnant and a busy mum), she even fed him bullshit, like every girly conversation I had she was able to go twist it round with him when they were alone...I know now she was jealous, I remember her telling me that her fella never satisfys her and me durin girly chats saying luckily iv healthy intimate relationship and more than happy, so she obviously weaned her claws into my marriage, clawing away to get my man. how could she, how could the both of them, they really are lowest of the low. at present im putting on appearances, husband is begging for forgiveness, says hes sick at his behaviour, has booked to see counsellor, said he wants faith back in his life, we used to go to church a lot as I was brought up believing in God, and he went salong to church when we met as kids when i was 15 he 18. he says he doesn't want to ever allow himself round twisted people like my mate and her fella, that he wants to concentrate on making it up to me for rest of my life and our childrens. I want to forgive him, I don't want to throw 12 years of being with this man over an evil vindictive slut of a girl. iv given him ground rules, iv told him he has to tell me and be honest when he feels things are tough in life with work our marriage etc hes to be open to me and no one else, not to block things out via drink and being around people whom he knows aren't good to be around.even to fecking stay away from pubs as he wont have the bloody time he works also yes but he needs to help me at home with our 2 yr old and baby, theyre innocent in all this as is me.. hes ensured me he used condoms so I trust I don't have sti, as for delivery, im due a sweep on wed so will speak to my consultant about things, im going to carry on working at my marriage weve lots to work on he definately has,.. I just want to look forward to my babys birth and to have a happy family life. I will also go along to counselling with him and if he wants to involve himself in church I will also. feel like I want to just start things slowly as being a friend then gradually being the wife he wants again but hes to show that hes worthy of me. (hes also getting threats from the bitches fella saying he will slice his throat, know hes angry too but really don't want threats like that, weve a 2 year old son im ready to have another baby, i don't want to be woorying about hubbys safety even tho I don't condone what hes done and hes brought a lot of this on himself)

sorry for the spelling mistakes by the way peeps and know this is a very long messasge, will reply again when baby is born and will appreciate your thoughts also

xxxxx

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RhondaJean · 27/08/2013 08:12

Oh dear.

Others with more experience and advice will be along soon I hope but for now two things jump out at me.

Firstly, my husband has had depression, it didn't make him cheat on me. It made him hard to live with at times, but it did not make him an unfaithful wanker. Depression did not make your husband cheat. Your husband made your husband cheat.

Secondly, I don't think calling her a bunny boiler and turning your anger on your ex friend helps. Again, she did t make your husband cheat. This myth of the poor man who is seduced by the irresistible and unstoppable woman, who doesn't have a choice in what happened - just that. The woman did not make your husband cheat,he CHOSE to sleep with her.

Oh a third - I wouldn't trust him to have used a condom, they were both allegedly drunk, he's managed to lie about any of it happening until this point, get checked out.

I'm sorry if it sounds harsh this morning from me but do not be gullible, I know you are angry with her, but it is HIM who has cheated on you, HIM who broke the vows he made to you, don't go running trying to make him feel better and "support" him.

A last thing - if he is getting threats you may want to consider the police if you are genuinely fearful.

I really hope you find peace and happiness, but be strong and don't let him away with this. He made the choice to have sex repeatedly with someone else and he has to live with it. You did nothing wrong and should hold your head up high.

Vivacia · 27/08/2013 09:46

I'm afraid it sounds as though you've both chosen a narrative that you prefer to live with, rather than one likely to be far closer to the truth.

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