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How to confront him?

22 replies

Fireplaces · 09/08/2013 17:45

DH has been having an affair. I have seen the email conversations saying how he 'loves her more than the whole wide world' etc. Such sentiments piss me off in themselves because I have never had more than a straight 'I love you' even at our best. These days he shows me no passion or affection at all, but seems happy to throw around these words to the OW. And her back to him.

How do I confront him? I am absolutely dreading it. I know how he will go. He will try to laugh it off, denying it. Then he will get annoyed and start telling me I am mad or making it up. Then he will deny some more. If he does admit it, he will tell me it's my fault for having changed/not shown him enough affection etc.

What I would like is for him to agree to move out for a couple of weeks and see the kids only every other weekend in this time: ie, he can't keep coming back to read them stories. This will give me the space I need to try to emotionally deal with this. But I bet he will refuse to move out, saying he pays the mortgage so he's staying etc.

How the hell can I do this? How I can keep from just crying? How do I manage the situation so I can get him to move out? Please help. Xx

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ImperialBlether · 09/08/2013 17:51

I'm so sorry. I've been through this and it's awful.

What do you want, apart from to turn the clock back? Do you feel it's the end of your relationship?

Is she single? That would make a difference in terms of him having somewhere to go to.

QueenofWhispers · 09/08/2013 17:52

I don't know how to answer your question, but I don't want there to be no answer to your post. Stay strong and confident in yourself and someone with better advice should be here shortly. I'll stick around too, hopefully I can be of some use. x

CatsWearingTutus · 09/08/2013 17:59

See a solicitor before you tell him. Then present him with moving out as a fact rather than something you're asking him to do. If your solicitor agrees, then what I would do is print out the emails, nail them to the front door along with your solicitors business card, and change all the locks. If you wanted to be nice you could put all his stuff in bin bags outside the front door.

You have nothing to discuss with this man. Any discussion can go through your solicitor at least in the first instance until agreements are in place. After that you'll have to talk to him because of the children but right now you don't have to negotiate with him. That's what solicitors are for.

fieldfare · 09/08/2013 18:01

I'd make sure your finances are in order before you let on that you know, I know that's easier said than done but as soon as you speak up the shit will hit the fan and things can go horribly very quickly. Also print copies of evidence - email, mobile bill etc.

If it were me, I'd be asking a friend to have my dd for a sleepover, get his bags packed and have them waiting in the hallway.

I'm sorry that you're going through this.

Fireplaces · 09/08/2013 18:03

imperial I keep changing my mind. I go from 'kick him out and take every penny' to 'don't say anything, it'll fizzle out' and back, and everything in between, several times a day.

queen thank you

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GilmoursPillow · 09/08/2013 18:05

It might fizzle out but do you want to spend the rest of your life wondering if he's found someone else?

MoreThanWords · 09/08/2013 18:07

It may fizzle out but you'll never trust him again.

Iirc you can't actually change the locks, so prob best to get your free 30minutes at a recommended solicitor.

Vent on these boards, come for support when you wavering, and remember he will just minimise and deny, minimise and deny, minimise and deny.

MadAboutHotChoc · 09/08/2013 18:20

If he refuses to go, go on strike - no cooking, washing, shopping etc for him.

ImperialBlether · 09/08/2013 18:24

I think if you do want to keep him long term, the only way to act now is with anger and chuck him out. Let him miss you and see what he's lost.

It sounds as though he's in the middle of the relationship. You could have years of this.

Also, frankly, you need to get some pride in yourself. (I don't mean to be horrible, here, honestly.) He is telling another woman he loves her - tell him to get out! React in the way you want to react, don't let it eat you up inside.

Fairenuff · 09/08/2013 19:42

He's cheating on you.

And... He will try to laugh it off, denying it. Then he will get annoyed and start telling me I am mad or making it up. Then he will deny some more. If he does admit it, he will tell me it's my fault for having changed/not shown him enough affection etc.

And you want to stay with why?

DontstepontheMomeRaths · 09/08/2013 20:02

I read Shirley Glass's book Not just Friends. It helped me process it all, ask the right questions and in my case realise it wasn't salvageable and to divorce him.

I'd get some more evidence first if you can, print e-mails off etc and then present it to him. Do seek legal advice in case he isn't prepared to give you space.

You poor poor thing. Why do these men enjoy gas lighting us so much? Mine made me think I was nuts and imagining everything at the time Sad

Fireplaces · 09/08/2013 20:46

I am at a loss about it all. I have no self esteem so keep blaming myself. I know I will dissolve when I confront him. I feel ashamed at what my friends and mother will say after a marriage ends. I keep thinking it would be easier not to say anything. Then I read stuff on here and think 'the bastard' but then I think about how my children's hearts will break if he moves out.

Don't know how to cope with this. I feel so alone.

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DontstepontheMomeRaths · 09/08/2013 20:53

Can a friend be with you when you talk to him?

I blamed myself and my self esteem was non existent. Wish I could give you a squeeze. Sod what they say and if they can't support you then it's better not to see them. You need good people around you at this time.

You deserve so much more than this.

I'm so much happier now than I ever would have been, if I was still with ExH.

Yes it's tough for the kids but they'll come through it with your love. I'm out the otherwise now, and I'm cheering you on virtually. Gather your strength, evidence and advice and then leave him x

Joy5 · 09/08/2013 21:01

You don't know how to cope with this, you're in shock at what you've found out. The person you should be able to trust most of all, has done something to destroy your marriage, and your children's family and happiness and security.

It takes time to get used to it, take it one step at a time, but don't blame yourself, you havn't done anything wrong.

18 months ago my ex announced the end of our marriage, i didn't find out for months there was someone else. Even now i'm not properly ok, but i'm determined i will be again, and i'll do my best for our two teenage sons (my eldest son died nearly five years ago). Now i get through each day the best can, but at the start it was just get through the next five minutes, then the next and so on.

You'll get through this, however much you doubt it at the moment, because you'll do what you've always done and thats put your children first. Only you can decide if its the end of your marriage or not, if it can be salvaged and saved.

Could you take the children and stay with family for a few days, to give you some breathing space? Or even book a free session with a solicitor next week and discuss your options. Anything just to clear your head and allow you to think.

Sending hugs, i know how hard it is, wouldn't wish it on anyone xx

mindyourownbusiness · 09/08/2013 21:13

This is not your fault. Never think that. Hold your head up high and please never think you are alone , I know these are only words on a page but behind every one is someone who cares enough to type them to try and make you feel better.
You can get through this and you will recover and be happy again one day. I live in NW
Lancs. if you need someone in real life to talk to. x

MoreThanWords · 09/08/2013 23:20

HE is the one who should be ashamed, not you x

Hissy · 10/08/2013 10:22

Good advice here love, another one here to squeeze your hand and tell you it'll be OK.

You ARE worth more than this.

lazarusb · 10/08/2013 14:20

Remember that HE made these choices. If your dcs are upset because he isn't at home any more, that's down to him, not you. This isn't your fault. He didn't have to cheat but he did.

Book your free solicitor's session but before you go write a list of questions you need the answers to. That way, if you get upset or distracted, the solicitor can at least address your questions. Take a friend to write down their replies & suggestions.

I'm sorry that your family won't be supportive if you go down this path but know that you need to put yourself and your children first. There will be huge support here for you. This is 2013 - you don't need to stay with an unfaithful partner. You deserve respect, love and kindness. If your relationship ends, its because he broke it, not you.

MissMarplesBloomers · 10/08/2013 14:34

Another vote of sympathy here.

Harsh as it may seem you need to get angry and make lists before you confront him, we have seen all too often on MN how the ex, once confronted, can behave appallingly about money, so awful as it is to have to wait, take a few deep breaths and make a plan. Here's just a few thoughts.

Do you both own the house? How long have you been married? This will impact on how easy it is to get a settlement. Get copies of as many documents as you can, savings accounts , mortgage statements, shares etc anything that proves his income too, contracts, payslips etc. If neccesary leave them with a friend/relative

Do you have your own bank account? Make sure you take some money from it (no more than half) towards future day to day expenses for you & the kids. Set up or use youur own one asap.

Silly things like are you/ the DC's alright for shoes, winter coats etc? All things you would probably have been thinking about over the next few months, try & organise soon before you tell him. Stock up the larder.

WRT the locks technically no you are not allowed to change the locks. But once he has left, even if only for the day, you can add a bolt to the front door (& go out the back if he has no back door key) OR as one poster did on here once say you have lost your keys and needed to get the locks changed for your security Wink then say of course you will be getting a second set cut but keep forgetting. Grin

(I would hold that in reserve for if he really gets arsey though, no point in getting confrontational from the off. )

I do feel for you, it is awful but you WILL get through it but you need to be strong for a while, allow yourself wobbly moments but draw strength from your anger...you deserve better!

lazarusb · 10/08/2013 14:43

Financially - remember things like pensions and how that could work best for you. Tax credits etc.
As MissMarples says, stock up now on dried, tinned & frozen food. Buy uniforms & winter clothes now. Maybe even a few small Christmas gifts. If you do the shopping, buy a gift card for your grocery store every week and put it away, ready for times when money is tight. Open an account he doesn't know about. He will have to pay you maintenance too.

Protect yourself and your children, this man isn't your friend and he isn't on your side. You will get through this.

LillyGoLightly · 10/08/2013 15:58

Totally agree with all the other posters RE: getting your finances sorted, seeking legal advice, and putting important documents and rainy day money/leaving funds into an account he does not have access to.

Fireplaces: you say you think you will dissolve on confronting him...well perhaps you don't have to confront him face to face. Write him a letter, send him and email etc and tell him you know about the affair, that you have enough evidence to not even ask him if its true, but that you KNOW it to be TRUE! Tell him that you do not want to hear his lies or excuses as you are not interested in hearing anymore BS. Tell him that he will find a bag of essential clothing and toiletries by the door and that you expect him to leave for the time being, as you won't be able to stand to look at him as right now you are and angry and hurt and if he has an ounce of respect for you, he will do as he is asked.

Sorry you are going through this x

MissMarplesBloomers · 12/08/2013 22:57

There's a brilliant oster on here olgaga- who used to do a whole ream of useful advice & links.

She's now got it in a blog

This should be pinned in relationships I think !

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