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Online behaviour of partner. I am much too jealous. Long.

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arseyandtired · 06/08/2013 06:04

I am in a right state tonight. Name changed in case my boyfriend sees it later. Have been with him just over 4 years. We are both in our late 20s with no children, no huge shared assets. Really scared even thinking this, let alone posting it, will start the end of the relationship. Probably going to sound very childish and needy as well.

A few weeks ago I got a bit bored... went on Twitter, I never go on there so was looking at a few months of old posts to keep me occupied. One of the first posts that came up was of my boyfriend conversing with someone with a rather sexual nickname... the sexual act in question is a favourite of his. Not saying any more on that front!

Immediately felt insecure as she looks a bit like me, same body type, bit younger, makes more of an effort with hair/makeup/selfies, dresses in that pinup style that is fashionable at the moment, similar interests but a bit gooey - lots of 'lol' and 'xx' and frankly, she also seems a bit dim. Resentful, judgemental and bitter am I sounding? Why yes. I am not a big fan of belligerently, publicly sexual people... I call them show offs. Incidentally so does my boyfriend - in real life. Yet all his RL female friends are EXACTLY LIKE THIS. He slates this aspect of their personalities to me happily when I point this out to him but fails to see the hypocrisy.

Fast forward a couple of replies and she is telling him she is having 'saucy thoughts' about him being naked... (heatwave related but he started the nude talk with her in relation to stripping off in the heat). He didn't reply.

I brought this single post up with him at the time and he said 'sorry, I was just showing off but I won't talk to her again if that's what you want'. Said I wasn't bothered - but it was not sitting right with me.

At this point that was the only message I'd seen. I was however very very upset by it.

Tonight I got paranoid and have gone back through months and months of public posts between the two of them on his Twitter feed. Took ages as I am not that au fait with Twitter. Lots of #sexygrowl, music being 'fuckable'/'very sexy' (they seem to spend time sending each other music videos) 'smoochy kiss'. I know Twitter is a bit of a luvvie fest but I think that is crossing a line. Talk of 'naughty dreams'. Talk of him paddling her and of her being a naughty girl from both of them!!! It is clearly pathetic Twitter banter - but I don't think I want to be seeing it. Especially as his mate left his wife a few years back for someone he met online who is exactly the same as this girl in her internet 'banter'... He is acting like a slimy pervert.

He doesn't do this with anyone else but always signs messages to her with ' ;) xx '

He has also consoled her over her mental health problems repeatedly. I too suffer with depression and anxiety and whenever I have been having a bad day he walks away to another room / goes on his phone as he 'does not know what to do' - funny, he's doing it for her. All I want is being talked to, distraction cuddles, and a bit of playful banter when I am down. Which is what she gets in tweet form while I get the square root of fuck all.

I am not mentioned once in over a year of posts on his account except once as 'a girl' in a conversation with her. he said:

'I'm being made to watch Corrie and I hate it!' *not really Corrie, I'm not that sadistic
'oo dear hun who's making you watch it? x?'
'A girl of course ;)'

WE HAD BEEN TOGETHER OVER TWO YEARS at that point and in the ensuing conversation she insinuated I was a bit of a childish twat - he said nothing.

He has also slagged off a lot of films I like and that we have watched together, actors/performers I like etc. Lots of it shared with her eg calling one of my favourite comedians an oxygen thief. Reading twitter now I can see the stages of him gradually disliking this comedian have directly corresponded to conversations with the girl on twitter. We are now not going to see this comedian as he refuses to go, so if I want to go I will have to go on my own.

He never said any of this to my face - all online to his online friends.

He has also put some fairly grotty stuff about a celebrity he fancies, wanting to be her pants/husband etc. Again 'in fun' but to me, it's not funny.

He has posted about LOADS of NICE things we have done together as if he is doing them by himself. For over a year. 'I'm going to a gig tonight', 'Watching Film' 'Taking a walk' 'Eating pizza' (which I made from scratch with all his favourite toppings and I know this because he posted a picture of it) yet I do not rate a mention! Not one - like he can just cut me out at will. Even mentioned a CD he'd 'picked up' which she complimented him on - I bought it for him for fuck's sake. We spent what I thought was a lovely Christmas together curled up in front of the TV - the only Xmas related tweet he sent was 'xmas tv is shit' and he got a 'lol yea hun u should watch a film xx' back. Sad

He will take conversations we have had to Twitter and try to find backup for his 'side' of the discussion rather than talk to me. Even over silly things like whether one band is better than another. He doesn't show me the replies - I guess he just feels better about himself for it?

He even watches films I've mentioned wanting to watch - without me. So he doesn't have to watch with me.

Back to this girl. I am fairly sure he has not met this girl in real life but do not know about texting etc as his phone never leaves his hand even in bed, that's how addicted to it he is. I don't think it's likely but who knows?

I think all this Twitter crap, even on its own, really takes the piss. What the fuck do I do? Am I being crazy? All THAT is 'just showing off'?? I think he has been a prick and deliberately shoved me out of his mind and his internet circle for months and yet I dread bringing it up with him in case it breaks us up because I think he would pick Twitter and his Twitter mates over me.

He does put up with a lot of shit from me in terms of arseyness, sulks, mood swings and the like (I am not aggressive in any way but can be grumpy and tearful at some times and pretty annoyingly energetic on others, partly because of medication), but now I do not think I am being as unreasonable over this as I thought I was a couple of weeks ago. I have come to realise I do give a lot back to him which I don't always take into account.

Ffs he was ill a few months ago, I saw on this trawl through his posts that while I was dialling 111 for an emergency GP appt and holding him while he screamed in pain he was tweeting to her not long after about being on a 'fluffy cloud of painkillers :)'.

I have never got this jealous/insecure before. Maybe I have idealized him, as I feel so shit about myself much of the time, but this has brought me crashing down to earth. Do I need a good talking to? How the hell do I bring this up with him? Should I??? Given that if I had seen all these messages at the time I spoke to him, I would have gone ape shit and probably split up with him on the spot given the (dire, suicidal ideation) mood I was in. Not what I want, I want my fella back. :(

To complicate things he is off in France with his parents, visiting his brother, till Sunday... his birthday. (Definitely not a cover for anything - I was invited and ticket would have been paid for as well, but it was announced at short notice and couldn't get the time off work!) So if I mention it at all between now and then I will either be ruining his holiday, and in turn upsetting his family, or spoiling his birthday, neither of which I want to do. The jealousy and insecurity is eating me up and I don't know how I can go and meet him and welcome him back, give him his gifts, with all this in my head.

I want to slap him for acting like an absolutely sickening twat... and her as well... and myself! It feels like he has this secret life where I do not exist. I feel like he cannot be bothered with me and my boring self and is devoting his time elsewhere... somewhere more fun. Sad I do try my best with him to have a good time and enjoy ourselves but it doesn't seem to be working. The only thing that seems to perk him up is talking to people who aren't me.

I feel now like I am being unfair to him - let's be clear, we have lovely times much of the time, but I am feeling like I WANT to be jealous and selfish. I do not want him to be having giggly, flirty, sexualised conversations with other women, regardless of whether it's serious or not. I do not want every opinion I express to be ripped apart by his Twitter pals. I do not want him turning to the internet and pushing me aside. But I don't know what I can do about it. All I want to do is sit him down and tear him and all his online friends to shreds because they are something I am not part of. But it's a terrible idea I know and it will turn him against me.

I'm sorry about how huge this turned out to be. I needed to rant as I don't really have any friends (surprising!) I really need someone to hold my hand at the moment. Sad I want him back.

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mpi · 06/08/2013 16:59

from experience i have come to think that some men get a buzz from talking in a sexual fashion to strangers on the internet...and text messages...without any thought that they would meet them...and do not consider this to be a form of cheating.
However, it is a form of cheating and you know that...the question you really need to ask yourself is can you live with this...because no matter what he says when you confront him...to some men this is a form of addiction which gives them a buzz..and at some point he will return to his drug.

StickyProblem · 06/08/2013 18:55

Quite apart from this being inappropriate and disrespectful, which it totally is, anyone can see it.

Does he tweet under his real name? It sounds as though she does, if you've been able to find her relatives...Does his employer know his Twitter handle? He does realise EVERYTHING that goes on Twitter is completely public? It will be right at the top of the page if his employer or a potential employer googles him, all his sexy tweets to @BettyBlowJob in clear view.

The part that really left me Shock was him tweeting your handmade pizza as though you weren't there. I would have wrapped it round his bloody head. Best of luck OP.

joblot · 06/08/2013 20:39

sticky is bang on. It's just not ok to behave like that. Please think about it

arseyandtired · 11/08/2013 18:13

I keep worrying that I am like one of these people:

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MadameLeBean · 11/08/2013 18:17

Oh my god pleased dump this man child you are not "way too jealous" he has no respect for you!!!

mcmooncup · 11/08/2013 18:20

Please dump. You have no ties. He is not life partner material.

arseyandtired · 11/08/2013 18:22

Argh posted too soon

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/1575465-Relationship-red-flags

Old thread but that's what I feel like

I am not insulting or abusive I just get very very irrationally upset and not even at him if that makes sense? often when I'm with him though but equally often when I'm alone. (quite rare I would say it's definitely not even every month). I do not blame it on him.

I feel like if I talk about my MH probs or self harm (not done in a long time) he will feel like I am threatening him with it if he puts a foot wrong.

or like I am making him feel he can never be good enough

Makes sense?

I am really really trying not to do the guilt trip thing re: this recent stuff.

I have been 'off' on days/nights out with people he knows - feeling left out.

I have criticized certain of his friends in the past - a couple who had a snog and a grope in full view at a party - both married to other people who weren't there. Also another woman who basically took over a night he was hosting, changed songs I'd put on etc, made me feel v unwanted, but I overreacted and went and sulked in a corner.

He said my facebook is v negative in terms of statuses I put up. I am quite self aware and don't put the kind of status that is just asking for a 'u ok hun??' but I do sometimes put things like 'omg what a day!' or 'worst day ever!' (then if anyone actually asks I can explain there was a spider in the bath or I accidentally broke my phone!)
so yeah a bit melodramatic but nothing over the top?

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misskatamari · 11/08/2013 18:26

He sounds like an immature idiot! You should get rid and find a man who enjoys living in the actual world and doesn't need the validation of strangers on the Internet.

MadameLeBean · 11/08/2013 18:27

His friends all sound like dicks as well!! Get rid.

arseyandtired · 11/08/2013 18:40

But what happened was I sat him down and talked about how i felt when I saw this stuff

He actually got very defensive in a previous conversation on the phone he accused me of stalking him for looking at old public messages and I had to explain away somehow what I was doing looking at his posts!?

Then he said 'so you've never flirted with anyone online?' um I may have done but not since I was a teenager, I think it's a bit childish to expect validation from people online. And NEVER while in a relationship!! No go!

Then saw him face to face, I guess he got how I felt because he apologised completely. He blocked her and deleted her. I saw his direct messages and none from her - or anyone else I wouldn't be comfortable with him messaging. Not friends on any other social messaging medium. he apologised for turning it back on me, and he went the whole nine yards about what a shit he had been.

I don't want to be this controlling bitch who tells him what to do - I asked him straight out if there was anything in my behaviour he wasn't comfortable with and he said he didn't want to be telling me how to behave. So now I'm paranoid about myself for doing that to him

Just to clarify it wasn't explicit stuff but very wink wink carry on style - messaging all public.

He wants to start again not mention it or keep going over it - and just behave better. he offered to not use twitter any more but it was a very sulky kind of offer which would have made me feel unreasonable to take up. he has this idea of how it's his 'online self' and it's not the real him. I tried to say how it's absolute bollocks - yeah I have an online self too but it's me, everybody knows I have a long term partner. He brought up some stuff I said a year or two ago about me not wanting him to mention me on there. Am I not allowed to change my mind? Should he not have some internal balance saying 'hey wait my gf is with me maybe I can mention that? for once'

I can't control how I feel, I'm so angry and at HER as well and yes it is irrational now. What on earth can I do to get some kind of calm in my head?? I've said to him that I can't say I will just get over it and everything will be fine again, he says he'll do his best to just support me and not make things worse :/ :/

I know the guilt is genuine but I dunno still if what he did was even that bad compared to how I am reacting argh

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AnyOldFucker · 11/08/2013 18:45

A relationship is supposed to enhance your life

Not change you into a paranoid, self-doubting ball of paranoia

Is this how you want to live your life ? Seriously ?

There are better men than this out there, love

While you stay with this twat, you are sabotaging your own happiness

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arseyandtired · 11/08/2013 19:00

hes gone to get me a kebab, I had a bit of a meltdown after discussing all this with him, he sat with me for a bit then asked if I'd eaten then offered to get me whatever I'd like. he only got back last night too! :(

I have always been a paranoid selfdoubting ball of paranoia... just never in regard to him before but v often with family and friends. argh!

he's always been loving, kind and considerate I don't feel I made that clear and my anger took over in the OP, if I hadn't seen this in the first place then I would not be questioning a thing. in regard to the MH stuff he DOES try! I was being an arse and self righteous. i've said I am having a bad day before and he has been straight over or if I say it's a bad idea, on the phone to me for hours. I've woken him in the night before with anxiety/black hole moods he's always been loving and seen me through it.

bitter remorse for how blackly I have painted him, it really is shades of grey on his and my part

does not mean his behaviour was ok and he has a lot of work to do

how can I work through it emotionally?

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AnyOldFucker · 11/08/2013 20:52

I can't help you if you persist on excusing his emotionally manipulative behaviour

over and out

good luck x

JaceyBee · 11/08/2013 21:50

His behaviour was shitty and you are not unreasonable to be upset by it. But having said that, it does sound as though you have some issues you could do with working through. Are you getting any therapy for your MH problems? If not, I would make it a priority.

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