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My Mum - who's being the difficult one? Loooong...

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Woofsaidtheladybird · 03/08/2013 17:26

Hello everyone

I guess I'm using this as a cathartic sounding board, but if anyone can offer me any advice, I'd greatly appreciate it.

My BIL was last seen on Monday 1st July. On the 2nd, he was reported as officially missing. I started a thread, which was very supportive, trying to trace him. People shared the appeal on fb, on twitter, on car forums (his car also was missing.) I started emailing BIL's facebook friends, asking if they'd seen him.

My Mum came over on the 4th to help with childcare as I had a work kind of meeting on the 5th (am currently a SAHM, but this was an interview feedback meeting). We had originally planned to go into London on the Saturday, but this was cancelled because DH wanted to go up to his parents (who lived near BIL) and Mum also pranged her car and therefore scuppered her spending money for shopping. Mum said she'd go home on the Friday evening. I asked if she could possibly take the children, as I wanted to go with DH. She said no, as she felt that I wouldn't be welcome as I'm not family, and there could be things that DH and his parents may want to discuss without me there. DH said this was ridiculous. Anyway, so she went home. I called my parents later, to see if we could possibly drop the children at theirs in the morning, so I could go with DH. Again, no. Thus followed an argument, to which I hung up on my Dad, before I said something I regretted. After I calmed down, I sent an email apologising. No answer.

The next morning - the Saturday - DH took my car (he has an old banger to get to the station) to his parents, and I stayed at home. Later that morning, DH called to say that a body had been found in the river, and the police suspected it was BIL. I was distraught, called my parents, and they came over (an hours drive), and took me and the children back with them. DH came and got us the next day, but wanted to go straight home. Mum didn't even get out of her chair to say a word to him. We left.

The following week, DH had been going up and down to his parents. There was a post mortem. Body confirmed to be BIL, suspected suicide. An inquest has been opened. My Mum didn't call. I was calling them with updates. Later that week, the funeral arrangements had been made. I called my parents to discuss this. I had to forcibly say 'please can you have the children overnight and the day of the funeral' - no immediate 'oh darling, just say, whatever we can do, just say'. We needed to go up to near where he lived to do stuff with his house, and help DH's parents etc on the Monday, the funeral on the Tuesday. Mum said it was difficult, as both her and Dad had appointments, and could anyone else help out. No asking how DH was. Or me. She said she'd ask Dad. I emailed shortly after and said, don't worry, we'll find someone to help. Then emails came from her and Dad, saying how dare I send a hurtful email, they'd try and help if they can, who the hell do I think I am, etc etc etc. I was livid. I sent an email back saying not to worry, and also its time they started treating me like an adult and not a child, etc etc. Anyway, they agreed to help with the children. (since found out this email has been forwarded to my brothers - but I won't go into them, as they are another thread altogether. We aren't particularly close, one I don't talk to.)

We dropped them off on the Monday. Had the worst funeral ever on Tuesday. Got the children. She ignored DH. Went home.

She has said some vile things - that BIL was gay, she always thought he was, and was involved in some sex game that went wrong (I wouldn't care a hoot if he was gay or not, but he wasn't) and that BIL was nicer than DH and I married the wrong brother, etc etc. This was when he was missing. They were full of spite, I could practically hear her spit them out. I'm so hurt by this, and haven't dared tell DH. As it is, he never wants to see her again.

A psychologist friend says she is a classic narcissist. Could she be? She had a go at me when I got pregnant with DD (we weren't married). She ignored and was rude to my ILs on our wedding day. She had a go at me when I got pregnant again - I had a miscarriage, and she said it was for the best, as I wouldn't be able to cope with 2. When I got pregnant with DS shortly after, she said I was stupid. She looked after DD the day we brought him home from hospital, and she ignored him as she hated the name we chose. She was rude to me and my ILs at both the childrens christenings. I could go on..

She still hasn't called - not since BIL was officially missing.

Its my birthday next week. I'm in hospital the day after for an endometrial ablation. I feel so bloody empty and alone. Not once has my Mum asked me how I am, or how DH is coping.

Part of me thinks I should call her to smooth things over, but really - why? I'm seeing her briefly tomorrow as she has a ticket for DD, SIL, her little boy, and herself to see Dora the Explorer - not me, though, so I have to traipse about the place for 2 hours waiting for DD.

DH usually says to call my Mum - but now, he doesn't care. I don't know if I do either.

God. Sorry this is long. I'm a mess inside, but have to be strong and chirpy for everyone, especially my poor husband, who has lost his little brother, and we don't know why. Thanks for reading. Don't reply, really. Just helps getting it all down Sad Am I being difficult?? Just don't know what to do.

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Woofsaidtheladybird · 03/08/2013 17:26

Oh God, so loooong. Sorry.

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Ragwort · 03/08/2013 17:32

No, you are not being difficult at all, your mother sounds totally unreasonable and very insensitive; making it all 'about her'. I remember when my BIL died and my mother was very supportive to both my DH and myself and other members of BIL's family.

I am so sorry to hear about your BIL, I remember the original thread.

Can you just leave things with your mother for a bit, you obviously have such a lot going on, I would try and concentrate on supporting your DH and his parents, put your mother 'on the back burner' for a bit and then maybe re-evaluate the situation in a month or two.

Do you have good RL friends you can count on?

Woofsaidtheladybird · 03/08/2013 18:11

Hello Ragwort
Thanks for replying so quickly. I'm sorry to hear about your BIL, but I'm pleased your mother was as supportive as she should be.

I do plan to give my mum space. If it wasn't for Dora tomorrow, I wouldn't be bothering (have had a few email exchanges, but nothing very loving, if you see what I mean). I go back to work end of Sept. My mum originally offered to help every other Monday (DD starting school and a 19 month DS). I'll be working Mon, Tues and Weds. ILs had agreed the other Mondays. However, DH has - unsurprisingly and I don't blame him - said he doesn't want my mum here again, so we are forking out for the Childminder for another day. Will hardly be worth my working, but I don't need the stress of my mum here every other week with the atmosphere. I've told my parents that we are getting childcare for Mondays as ILs are probably moving further away (which is true).

My BILs ashes are being interred on Tues, up in Lancashire. My parents know this. No offer to help with childcare, so DH is going alone with his parents.

Fortunately, I do have some fantastic RL friends. Psych friend is DD's godmother, and her DH is DS's Godfather. They knew BIL well from social get togethers, plus he was also DD's Godfather. Not that we're terribly religious, but you know Sad

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mamas12 · 03/08/2013 18:23

Oh my goodness you have a lot deal with so start thinking of yourself first as you need to take care of you and your Dh
First of all get your sil to pick your dd up to go see the show and don't put yourself in the position of seeing dm tomorrow she can wait

Woofsaidtheladybird · 03/08/2013 18:28

Mamas, that would be a great idea, but SIL lives 15 mins from our parents (they actually bought her and my brothers old house) and we are over an hour away. Dora theatre is 10 mins from both their houses.

We moved to where we are as it's close to where we grew up and my parents wanted to move back to near there when my Dad retired. But no... They decide to buy my brother and his wife's old house over an hour away instead...

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Woofsaidtheladybird · 03/08/2013 21:32

Needy bump...

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Nanny0gg · 03/08/2013 22:10

So sorry for the loss of your BiL.

In my not-professional, non-expert opinion your mother is vile. And your father no better, sorry.

Does your DD know about Dora? Because if she doesn't, I'd cancel. If she does, let her go, but go home as soon as it's finished.

I know it's hard, but I don't see that it would be a loss for you to cut contact. Stick with the family that matters.

GoodtoBetter · 03/08/2013 22:20

She sounds vile. So sorry about your BIL. Sad I'd cancel Dora uf DD doesn't know or just do it without engaging much and then go no contact for a while at least.

mathanxiety · 04/08/2013 03:46

Your parents are horrible people.

Take a look at this.

She is expressing disdain for your choice of DH by refusing to support him or you in your hour of need.
What you have chosen for your life is not good enough for her.
You and your brothers are separated - it looks like you are the scapegoat and they are somehow the golden children.
She forwarded your text to them to make you look like some sort of unreasonable harpy.
She does not feel she is in any way wrong here.
You are not allowed to have a problem.
You are not allowed to claim any support from her.
She has no empathy for anyone.

Suicide is a terrible way to lose someone. Please give your DH a hug.

Your DH is right to swallow hard and pay a childminder rather than get your mum involved in your children's lives.

If you can see your way to therapy, I would get it if I were you, in hopes of being able to disengage from your parents. The more contact you have with them the more you will be hurt, and sad to say she will do the same to your children. Narcissists are equal opportunity destroyers.

LegoLegoEverywhere · 04/08/2013 10:57

I have a mum like this. They're crap. The best decision you have made is to pay for that extra childcare, what's toxic for you is definitely too toxic for your children. Mine chose DS1 as favourite and DS2 as scapegoat. DS2 was nearly 3 years old when he said grandma didn't love him.

Long story short I cut contact with her and got ds2 counselling. I have no regrets.

Reduce contact as much as you can. Glad you have your DHs support.

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