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Am I justified in feeling suspicious/paranoid over this?

17 replies

diagonevalley · 02/08/2013 13:43

I have had a couple of long term relationships where I've been lied to and had my partner more or less looking for better behind my back. Therefore when I got with DP I had major trust issues and was so paranoid but after a bit I thought to myself "you know what, I love this man dearly and I trust him completely". And I really did.

Then a few months into our relationship I found out that he'd joined numerous dating and casual sex sites and had actively been looking behind my back. I was heartbroken. The shred of trust I still had in men completely destroyed. He swore he hadn't actually met up with anyone and it was all just online thrills. Rightly or wrongly I gave him a second chance.

A few months later, he did it again. I finished the relationship but he begged and cried and wouldn't let it go and I stiill loved him and rightly or wrongly believed him when he said he never met up with anyone and was just confused etc and did it for the ego boost. I know deep down it's bullshit and the intent was there but hey, I'm a mug. I love him. I gave him one more chance - in return he told me all of his email passwords, gave me free access to his phone whenever I wanted to look on it and basically became completely open with me.

Well since then I've naturally checked up on him regularly, read his emails, looked at his internet history, looked on his phone - nothing dodgy. Infact, nothing 'bad' has come up now for around 8 months or so. Everything going well?

Well a couple of weeks ago I became aware of the fact that he was deleting selected history from his internet. I know because if you click on "restore last session" on firefox, everything from your last session comes up including stuff you've deleted from the history. He hadn't deleted anything dodgy but he had been on my facebook page, checked out a number of my friends (male and female) and had deleted this stuff. He'd also deleted the search he'd run on his ex wife (facebook) and a couple of other women from his own friends list.

Still nothing concrete to go on. I checked his phone and noticed he'd started deleting the entire internet history from that. I'm pretty phone savvy so went deep into the iphone reg and it seemed to be porn sites he'd deleted. Ok - I can let that go.

Now here is the one that has me - I've not checked on him for a while (quite frankly, I'm becoming bored of it) but last night went into his email to find my car insurance documents. Couldn't find them so went into his deleted emails and in there was a "hi, I'm Victoria, I love you long time I think we be happy together" type email. It read like a spam/porn email but was weird how he'd deleted it (he normally wouldn't bother with this stuff if its obvious spam) and it had a picture attached to it of a youngish blonde woman. Could possibly still be spam and whoever wrote it clearly wasn't English speaking. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and put it down to spam. BUT - below that was an email from google confirming his 'new email account'. The username was something he wouldn't normally use and he's not mentioned to me that he has a new email account (and it isn't in the internet history that he signed up to google!). I logged into this new email account (he uses the same password for everything) and nothing dodgy in there - infact he seems he hasn't used it at all - he signed up to it whilst I was at work one day. What is bothering me is:

a) he never mentioned it
b) he deleted it from the internet history
c) he tried to delete the confirmation email from his hotmail account
d) it was google email he used to chat women up on the internet before!!!

Why would you open a new email account and then try and delete all evidence of its existence and not mention it to the person you're supposed to be 100% open and honest with??

Do I ask him about it or just keep an eye on it and see what he uses it for whilst he doesn't realise I know about it?

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LEMisdisappointed · 02/08/2013 13:46

I'm confused

Mips · 02/08/2013 13:54

Like you i have trust issues due to an ex cheating DP. However my DP (who left this week) regained my trust in men. I dicovered in time that my new DP was secretive. I agree that we sometimes need privacy but being secretive was a step too far. I logged into his email account and luckily nothing was goung on. He had a Ladbrokes account which was his secret.
If i was you i would confront him and seriously think if you could ever trust this man again. I had a lightbulb moment. I left him the same day.
Hope you sort this out. You deserve happiness.

AnythingNotEverything · 02/08/2013 13:58

Happy healthy relationships are not this complex. You don't trust him - it doesn't matter what emails or devices you have access to. You will never trust this man.

I'm sorry, but you deserve better.

RinseAndRepeat · 02/08/2013 13:58

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PeppermintPasty · 02/08/2013 14:02

Well, he has form. If you're bothered about the relationship (without wishing to sound harsh I think you deserve better), ask him about it.

The thing is about waiting for him to use this new account-each time previously you have given him "another chance" post discovery.

Why would he stop doing what he wants to do? You're not going to leave him over it, are you?

Viviennemary · 02/08/2013 14:03

It's sad you have these trust issues. But your partner is really not to be trusted so don't blame yourself for this. You don't trust him because he has deceived you and told lies. You should move on from this I think. I agree. You deserve better.

nkf · 02/08/2013 14:05

Well, of course you have trust issues. You're with a man who's signed up to sex/dating sites. You've forgiven him twice. What on earth are you waiting for? This is a terrible way to live. Just terrible. Why ask him about it? Why keep an eye on it? Why put yourself through this? You love him, you say. But do you love the pain? Does he love you? Jesus, why are you putting up with this? How long have you been with him? It's really really not worth the bother, I'd say. Sorry. Rant over. But I can't even think about answering your query about what to do. It's the wrong question. The only question is what words to use to tell him it's over. You don't need proof. The fact that you are all torn up about what he may be up to is enough.

mynameisslimshady · 02/08/2013 14:10

He wouldn't have met anyone from the sites he was on before. None of the women are real. Men pay for messages thinking they are messaging someone local, they aren't.

All of the men in relationships who frequent those sites set up fake email adresses, they will never get an email because the women aren't real.

In your shoes I'd check his bank statements and phone bills. It will be quite obvious if he has been back on the sites.

hellsbellsmelons · 02/08/2013 14:26

I agree with nkf
You need to read her post a good few times.

He's deleting emails, internet history. He's up to something and you know it.
You can't trust him. These men never change.
Get out now and find someone who will respect you and love you properly.

Pantone363 · 02/08/2013 14:30

He betrayed you twice. You forgave him twice.

I was willing to excuse the FB searches because people do nose on other people's profiles and he didn't want you worrying. The new email account? That would be the end game for me. You took him back on the condition his Internet usage was open and transparent, he's gone behind your back and is lying, again.

Actions speak louder than words, he's not the one for you.

artychick · 02/08/2013 14:39

i think it's time to let this man go. he's not worthy of your trust. and that's not a reflection on you.

don't fall into the trap of throwing more good time after bad, so as not to 'waste' what you have, or because you've invested so much already. leave him alone with his internet fantasies, mind games and lies. you are worth SO much more.

diagonevalley · 04/08/2013 12:17

Thanks guys. Since I posted this I've done a bit more snooping and nothing dodgy is coming up but I realised he'll be using Firefox private browsing as there is no way to retrieve the history from that. He'll slip up one day and leave it open, I'm sure he will. I could have looked at his phone last night whilst he was passed out in a drunken heap on the sofa but I just couldn't be arsed. What's the point.

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DrHolmes · 04/08/2013 12:43

Does seem dodgy to me. Why are you with him if you are fed up and at the "what's the point" stage? You seem pretty sure he will slip up so why do that to yourself? Get rid.

Bogeyface · 04/08/2013 14:45

If you are at "Whats the point?" then there is no point.

Even if he hadnt met anyone, as you say the intent was there. He has given you his passwords but then opened a new email account that he didnt tell you about. If he had no intention of keeping unreasonable secrets from you then he wouldnt need that account would he?

Whether he has cheated or not is irrelevant, you dont trust him, not because of paranoia but because he has proved time and time again that he cannot be trusted.

Game over.

mpi · 06/08/2013 17:16

for your peace of mind.....you need to do something...i am in a very similar position and i feel that their behaviour creates intolerable uncertainty which can consume you....knowing what is happening is better than the terrible uncertainty
download a software programme onto the computer he uses ... a programme which shows no indication it is there .. but sends reports to your email address detailing every website visited, whether icognito or not, and details of every email message sent...whether deleted or not.
Webwatcher is one such programme...it has a free trial and doesnt cost much to buy.
Only thing to bear in mind is that you may read things which might make you feel sick and you wont be able to erase from your memory.

sooperdooper · 06/08/2013 17:46

You clearly don't trust him whatsoever, because he's proven in the past he's not trustworthy, you should give up on the relationship, it's doomed, you'll never, ever trust him 100%, you'll always snoop and he'll always have something to hide

Give up on this relationship now before it drives you insane

LemonPeculiarJones · 06/08/2013 17:49

He's a cheating toad. The relationship broke down when he first did his grubby online searching.

Whatever you do or don't find now can't change the fact that this relationship has no future.

You deserve far better, woman!

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