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Oh bugger. I think I'm in love with one of my best friends.

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LucyWildelovesGru · 22/07/2013 20:27

I've known him for years though we've definitely spent a lot more time together recently. He's kind and funny and smart. We get on incredibly well, we spend loads of time together and we never run out of things to say. We've got loads in common, and lots of mutual friends - he's perfect. I even like his parents.

And now I think I've fallen for him. We went to a wedding two weekends where neither of us knew many other people - as a result, we spent most of the time together and had a lovely time. And when I got home, I realised I don't want to just be friends any more, and I keep thinking about him and how much fun we had.

I can't believe I've gone and done this - he's so much a part of my life, and now I've got to either tell him how I feel and ruin the friendship if it's not reciprocated, or do nothing and try and get over it. Or, I suppose, hang around in the hope that he feels the same way. But I don't have any real evidence that he does.

I have absolutely no idea how to go about this - I've even been googling "ways to tell if he fancies you" which is absurd given my age and the fact that all the articles say things like "try and sit next to him in class and see what happens". But I've never been in this situation before - got married at 25 to the boy I'd been going out with since school, and haven't dared go on a date since we split up two years ago.

I know he isn't dating anyone else, and that he hasn't had a serious relationship since his girlfriend died about five years ago. But that doesn't mean he's interested in me, of course.

Please, tell me to get a grip and get on with my life. Or to get a grip and tell him how I feel. Or give me a list of "ten ways to tell if a forty something bloke who's unfailingly polite and interested in everyone he encounters likes you more than he likes other people" so I can work out whether he likes me back.

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DoveDovePigeon · 30/07/2013 07:40

Just get him somewhere on his own and say " do you think you and I could ever been more than friends?" Nerve wracking, but unambiguous and you will know one way or another.

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Twinklestein · 30/07/2013 13:32

I'm not a big believer in the friends' zone as two of my ex bfs before I married were originally friends & went back to friends after the relationship.

While I urged caution as you've been hurt before, the situation is ambiguous as ever, and there doesn't seem any other way but to be straight.

On the one hand he may not be interested, on the other he may be potentially interested in any of his female friends and is up for the one who makes the first move.

I agree with Dovedovepigeon's line - it's the most neutral way possible of saying it.

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thistlelicker · 30/07/2013 13:50

Time will tell :-)

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deleted203 · 30/07/2013 21:14

Good luck, Lucy! The pair of you sound lovely. Sorry to hear about dcs broken arm and the hellish weekend, and I suspect your boss is right.

Men don't obsess about 'the meaning' of texts, etc. He clearly likes spending time with you, and quite possibly it either simply hasn't dawned on him that there might be anything else on offer (ooh-er Matron) or he is also keen on the idea and dithering over whether/how to bring it up without looking like a bit of a letch.

Deep breaths, girl! Then go for it!

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crazyhead · 30/07/2013 21:29

I got together with my friend - pg with ds2 at the moment - and honestly, it's made us both so happy. But I'd say it was always a 'friendship' in slightly inverted commas, it had something at the heart of it that was more than that. Love, yes - but that binding sexual attraction that you also need was there. I think that is the biggest question with a friend - working out if that element is present.

Do you drink? I don't want to sound like a total lush but I just happen to think booze can be your friend in these circs.

Because I have to admit that our relationship started with quite a lot of slightly drunk snogs - basically moving from friend to lover was a huge shift and actually made us both extremely bashful initially.

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cloudskitchen · 30/07/2013 21:54

I have just found and read this thread pretty much entirely in one go although I admit scrolling a bit at the end to see if there was any news. Are you really going to make me wait two whole weeks for the next installment? oh hang on, its not about me is it Wink

I really hope things work out for you. You both sound like lovely people that are made for each other. sorry to hear about your ds's arm. Poor thing. On the subject of France. I wonder if he suggested inviting another friend because he felt maybe he'd exposed his feelings by suggesting the trip in the first place. Just a thought...

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MadameGazelleIsMyMum · 30/07/2013 22:06

Good luck OP - definitely go for it !

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hellymelly · 30/07/2013 22:24

I think he does like you too, but anyway I am all for just asking him out. I waited a couple of weeks after meeting DH, and he hadn't called me, and I was so fed up with myself, jumping whenever the 'phone rang , that I called him. It is scary beforehand, but actually being frank and honest makes one feel powerful and brave, and is always worth it. Even if I'd been turned down, it is far better to know. I would just kiss him, or say, "can we go to the opera as a proper date then?" with a big smile. I am rooting for you OP! Be brave!

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MadeMan · 30/07/2013 22:24

"Men don't obsess about 'the meaning' of texts, etc..."

Perhaps not all men but certainly some will. For example, a jealous type boyfriend/husband that recieves a text from his partner saying that she's met up with an old school chum named Roger and they're going for a quick drink to catch up on old times. That might start the old brain into overdrive. Wink

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TravelinColour · 30/07/2013 22:34

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deleted203 · 30/07/2013 22:55

Wink I'd be highly suspicious of anyone going out for a quickie with 'Roger' MadeMan...

I really meant that (some) women phone saying, 'OMG - he only put ONE x at the end of his text! Do you think that means he's going to dump me?' etc.

Men don't generally desperately look for hints/deep insights/hidden meanings in texts. Or conversations...

Call a spade a bloody shovel is my motto! Better to be clear and unambiguous.

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cerealqueen · 30/07/2013 23:08

I would say something as you will always wonder if you don't.
I had a thing for somebody, we emailed everyday, were very very close, but he had a girlfriend, who never talked about. I told him I had to distance myself from the friendship as I was worried I might be developing feelings for him. He didn't feel the same way BUT I said it, was well proud of myself for doing it (usually dreadful at this stuff). I missed him like crazy but I knew I had to deal with it or I'd never meet anybody else as I'd always be thinking of him.

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BigBoobiedBertha · 30/07/2013 23:28

I'd say go for it too.

Just because you aren't getting any obvious signals, it doesn't mean that nothing will happen or that his feelings can't change. It may be that you need to tell him how you feel before he experiences what you experienced after the wedding.

DH and I were a bit like that. We got on very well but it wasn't until he showed his hand with a Valentine's card (shame it isn't February now OPWink) that I began to see him differently. Actually it took 6 months before we properly got together after that so don't even expect instant hearts and flowers. It could be that the best you can do for now is plant a seed and see where it goes in a few months. We actually worked together (he was my boss!!) so we were forced to have contact after the card which made us behave in a grown up way but still made sure I couldn't run screaming for the hills. After the initial embarrassment on both sides we went back to our normal relationship quite quickly and then things grew from there.

On the other hand, suggesting a break in France and then suggesting that another friend go with you? I am not entirely sure that he isn't testing you out so see how you reacted. I hope you were suitably excited at the prospect of going with him on the visit and then ever so slightly downcast at the mention of taking somebody else. Smile

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LucyWildelovesGru · 31/07/2013 00:07

I just had an email from him. Really no reason for it other than to say he hopes we have a good long weekend away. So very much a non-functional email.

And I, emboldened by this, emailed him back to say thank you and what about dinner one night next week. If he says yes, I will drink just enough and flirt wildly.

So I will of course keep you all updated. Because you are now all in this with me and can share in my delight or disappointment...

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GoodMorningMoon · 31/07/2013 00:09

Hello OP,

Just came across this thread and wanted to offer more words/a story of encouragement! This past weekend DH and I attended a wedding of two friends who had known each other for years, he always had a thing for her, she for him, and didn't say a word until about 3 years ago! They are very happy, obviously, but what really stuck with me was what the groom said in his speech to her;

the best part about being married to you is that after all the craziness and this party, you will still be my best friend.

This applies to your circ, I'd think! You're best friends, and in a good friendship, drama can be overcome. After all, the worst thing you're telling him is you love him. That's hardly a terrible thing! Smile

Good luck!

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deleted203 · 31/07/2013 00:18

Yay! Good for you, Lucy. Definitely keep us updated! (I am 46 and living vicariously).

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GoodMorningMoon · 31/07/2013 00:32

X-post!

Go Lucy! Smile Flowers

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LucyWildelovesGru · 31/07/2013 00:43

He just replied! Saying yes please to dinner and he will
call when he gets back to fix a day. I will, of course, report back...

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BigBoobiedBertha · 31/07/2013 00:50

Yay! He who dares wins and all that. Grin

And how long were you sat at your computer pressing refresh before that came through? Wink

Have a lovely dinner. I reckon the feeling is mutual but one of you is going to have to be brave and make the first move........

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whethergirl · 31/07/2013 01:37

Oooh just read through this thread, I'm really excited for you Lucy!

Well he seems to make be making a lot of effort with you, I think he is definitely considering it but, like you, probably hesitating because he doesn't want to spoil the friendship? A big wild guess obviously, but that's the feeling I get having read all your posts.

Good luck!!

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ricecakesrule · 31/07/2013 06:42

Read the whole thread and can't believe I'm going to have to wait for both of your trips away before another update! Wish you the best of luck, such a lovely romantic story (hopefully!).

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ricecakesrule · 31/07/2013 06:48

Sorry just seen the email updates, exciting stuff! Have a lovely dinner and (more importantly) update us afterwards!Grin

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OutOfCigarettes · 31/07/2013 07:42

Ooh marking my place for updates Grin

I hope dinner goes well for you Smile

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rek999 · 31/07/2013 23:06

Good luck!

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ChippingInHopHopHop · 31/07/2013 23:52

Arghhhhhhhhh - it's like watching snails courting Grin

At least with a good book you can skim read very quickly.

Impatient much??

I hope you do it soon though, it's hard getting everything done with my fingers crossed!!

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