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12yo daughter looked in my phone, read texts from lover

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maypoledancer · 15/07/2013 23:11

Separated last year. Now sharing custody and living with dds aged nearly 13 and nearly 11.

I have a lover, very casual, he's a bit complicated. I've known him for a while, met online. The sex is amazing, lovely after years of married celibacy. I was on the phone to him last night, normal conversation and I have lots of friends so nothing untoward and it was a neutral conversation.

But dd1 (12) seemed a bit funny about it and asked who I was talking to.

This evening had to pick up the other one from something and got back to find dd1 looking teary and went up to her room.

She told me she had gone into my phone when I was out and read texts. There were some filthy ones from Mr X including one where he said I was a great fuck Blush She was terrified about telling me that she'd read them. I normally delete but anyway I pw-protect everything and had no idea she'd seen and memorised my passcode.

I felt shaky, but stayed calm on the outside, asked her what she knew. I think she was mostly concerned I might bring a man into her life when ironically I would want to do nothing less. I reassured her about that. I also explained that I was a normal woman and that sex was nice; especially great with someone you love. But also could be just fun and was not dirty and nasty or anything I was ashamed of. I made clear he doesn't live near us. I told her how many times I've seen him (five) and that only one occasion was in our house when I was here alone.

I told her I didn't want her to lie for me but that I didn't want her sister or dad to know. I said that if anyone asked her she didn't need to lie but asked her not to volunteer information to dh or dd2 as it would be hurtful and difficult. Dh is difficult and angry; I really don't want him to know.

She was v apologetic about reading the texts and I made clear it wasn't on, without giving her a hard time. I said that I respected her privacy and wouldn't read hers (this is true and she knows it). But I said I wasn't angry with her, but with myself for not deleting the texts. I also said that I was glad she talked to me.

She is shocked, I think she thought she knew everything about me. She said she couldn't believe that there was 'a whole other person' in my life.

She was adamant that she doesn't think I've cheated on her dad because she accepts we are over. I told her I like my independence and only care about the three of us and our home.

She seems OK now. She is a bit teenager-y in the last year but we've always been able to talk about things. Has anyone been in this situation?

Out of my comfort zone and getting used to being a single mum.

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Dededum · 15/07/2013 23:13

Think you handled it very well. Big hugs.

NoComet · 15/07/2013 23:14

Don't ever expect to keep secrets from DDs, I have one that listerns to every word that is ever said.

Mumsyblouse · 15/07/2013 23:17

You can't rewind time and she does know now- sounds like you handled it the best way you could and it's great that you are talking about it openly, I can't see any other way forward. It is hard being on your own, you don't have anyone else to turn to when things like this happens and you want reassurance.

WeAreEternal · 15/07/2013 23:26

I think you handled it really well but I do wonder if the cat is now out of the bag and you might be best to control the spread of information rather than waiting for it to spill out and then trying to sort it out.
Now DD1 know it is only a matter of time before DD2 and your EXH find out, you might be best just to say that you have met someone, it's not serious, you have just had a few dates, and that you have no intention of getting serious or bringing him home/introducing him to the DDs yet.

It might be easier, plus your DD won't have to feel like she is keeping your secret, which trust me is how she will be feeling.

maypoledancer · 16/07/2013 00:26

Thanks so much everyone who has responded. Have had a big fat glass of wine.

I'll change the code on my phone.

I did consider telling dd2 pre-emptively but I decided it would be a bad idea. I can't see dd1 telling her unless it is to be cruel in a 'I know something you don't know' kind of way. I've made it clear I don't want her to do this and I think she won't.

As for dh... no way. He is very hostile and is EA. Huge scope for vindictiveness.

I think I have dealt with the immediate problem. But I wouldn't want dh to find out even five or ten years from now that this was going on. What complicates this a bit is that I met Mr X online when I was still living with dh (during the many months we were stuck under same roof waiting for house to sell).

Dh snooped and found an email. Both he and now dd have a name and it's the same name. So if dh found out about Mr X he would think (rightly as it happens) that this was the guy I was in touch with when we were still living together. He is very jealous. This really wouldn't be good. Dh is very manipulative and bitter. I don't want him having a stick to beat me with.

I'd like to make clear... I only met this guy online after dh and I agreed to separate and didn't sleep with him until after dh and I were living separately.

I'm stuck with it now anyway, can't put the genie back in the bottle.

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postmanpatscat · 16/07/2013 06:18

You haven't done anything wrong and you are not obliged to tell anyone about your relationship. DD1 chose to find out something and now has the responsibility to keep it to herself.

Jaynebxl · 16/07/2013 06:24

The moral of this story is to keep your phone with you when you pop out! Sounds like you coped well though and I'm sure all will be fine once DD gets over the shock.

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CajaDeLaMemoria · 16/07/2013 08:42

It is a huge burden that you've asked her to carry.

Your reasoning is sound, but life doesn't always work that way. Sooner or later, your DH will know. You probably need to prepare for that now, so that you can help reduce the burden on your DD. She's keeping a horrid secret from one of her parents.

I was in the same position several times as a child, as were two of my sisters. It always came out in the end, regardless of what promises we'd made or rewards we got.

maypoledancer · 16/07/2013 08:48

Yeah it's weird, I always take my phone with me. I was in a rush.

postmanpat I agree with you. I did make clear to dd that I didn't think it was wrong and that I didn't feel ashamed was just sorry she had found out; these things are true.

Well all seems fine this morning. We've agreed to put it behind us. I think she feels really bad about spying and even if she were angry with me about something she wouldn't spite me by telling dh because she wouldn't want to show herself up for doing that. I just think she wouldn't do it anyway.

She's actually been really sweet this morning. She's often very roll-eyes with me but she came in my room and wanted advice about what to wear for wear day out bowling today... seemed very young. She has told me she loves me lots of times as well.

Thanks again for the support.

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JRmumma · 16/07/2013 08:56

Sounds like you have a great relationship with your daughter and she seems very well adjusted, considering her parents are currently going through separation. You should be really proud of that.

maypoledancer · 16/07/2013 09:02

Just x posted with a couple of people. I didn't ask her to keep a secret. I said to her that if anyone asked her anything like dh or dd2 asked if I was seeing someone then I didn't expect her to lie. But I did say that I didn't want her to volunteer the information as it would be difficult for me and for them.

I think I might feel a bit differently if she had found out through my own carelessness or if I had exposed her to this knowledge.

But she deliberately looked in my phone - and she had to hunt around a bit to find both phone and texts. I don't normally leave it lying around, I delete dodgy texts as a rule, I passcode protect it and I have no idea how she got the code.

And I've always made clear that we have respect for each other's privacy and possessions. That my phone and laptop are off limits and private and so are theirs.

She's mortified that she spied on me. I told her it was wrong and if you spy on someone you never find out anything you are glad you know. But I wasn't cross and I think she is grateful for that.

Also I don't think she was upset on her dad's behalf or thought what I did was wrong so maybe she doesn't feel like it's a guilty secret to have. I don't think she thinks it's dh's business or even her own.

I think she minded most that it made her realise that she doesn't know everything about me, and also worried about having anothe man on the scene (something I really don't want to happen which is one of the reasons why the FWB thing works for me).

Dh and I aren't divorced yet, don't want this spanner in the works.

God I don't know, all confused again now.

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maypoledancer · 16/07/2013 09:03

Thanks JR that brought a tear to my eye. It's been really tough.

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amessageforyouYoni · 16/07/2013 10:04

I think you handled it brilliantly. You sound like a lovely mum.

iwasyoungonce · 16/07/2013 10:09

I also think you handled it amazingly well. Your DD is lucky to have you.

AlexMcLitty · 16/07/2013 10:41

Well done on how you handled that. You do really sound like you are a great mum. Good effort x

Chirps · 16/07/2013 10:54

Sounds like u handheld it well, same thing happened to me when my daughter was 12. Although she's sorry at that age it's hard to resist not having a peek again so I hope you now have a password on your phone?

Chirps · 16/07/2013 10:54

Hand held?? Lol sorry 'handled it well'

OrmirianResurgam · 16/07/2013 14:11

No advice I'm afraid but just wanted to say you have a wonderful relationship with your girl.

LadyintheRadiator · 16/07/2013 14:27

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