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Can I have some encouragement please?

21 replies

nureyev · 11/07/2013 19:15

Testing

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mikkii · 11/07/2013 19:16

For what?

HappyDoll · 11/07/2013 19:16

You can do it!

nureyev · 11/07/2013 19:31

I have posted about this before under this name, although it is not my usual name.

Dh and I have been in the same situation for the last 18 months. He has said he does not want to be married any more, but thinks that we can live tgether in the same house. We have a very small house. We also have two small children.

The back story to his decision was that we, and particularly me, had a very rough time for about four years, since, coincidentally, we got married. We had been together for about four years before that, very happily. We had two children, moved house, I had a very serious illness, both my parents died and my brother had a psychotic breakdown. DH says that through this time he supported me, while working very hard, but was neglected. I am too sick and tired to go into the rights and wrongs of this, suffice to say, I have apologised for him feeling neglected or criticised for working too hard and undertaken to do anything to put matters to rights.

To no avail. He refuses ay kind of way forward, but is furiously angry with me at the idea of him not being with the children every day. It is me who wants, or has wanted, to work on the marriage, not him. Anything constructive on my part has been met with anger, or rejection.

He goes away for work a lot. I have never suspected him f being unfaithful, and those who know him well agree with me. However, he follows a patter which has begun to make me suspicious. It goes like this: we start getting on wuite well, even very well, he goes away (to his native country, by the way which is not unimportant), he surprisingly affectionate emails home, and then when he gets back he si cold and angry. This time, I checked his phone when he came home (he often does this to me, so I don't feel bad. He is repeatedly interested in whether I am having an affair. I'm not). There were texts between him and someone I don't know, quite tame but very friendly. They could have been innocent. Then he sat in front of me with his phone for a long time, doing something. This is odd as he has nothng to do with his phone: I charge it, find it when he needs it; put money on it. So, I checked it again and he had deleted all the messages just fro that one person.

Now, I'm not really concerned that he is having an affair. It is an inevitable consequence of the way we are I believe, which is why I told him ages ago that his plan will never work, for us to be friends. I am sick of being treated coldly, shouted at and sidelined in front of my children though and I want an end to it. I am going to speak to hime toight and I need some encouragement that I am doing the right thing.

Thing is, he is penniless at the moment as he is owed a lot of money from work. He is also extremely depressed and disappoitned with work. I feell this is an insensitive time to have this converstaion. On the other hand, I could have written those last lines at any time inn the last three years.

I am also quite frankly terrified of being a single parent. I have no support around me where we live, friends but not incredibly close ones. I have three very part time jobs (two are seasonal, full time about four months a year, one is ten hours a week), havng recently gone back to work after being a SAHM. I will make between £9 and £10 000 this year. Clearly not enough.

Give me some good advice please. I sorely need it.

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nureyev · 11/07/2013 19:37

sorry for typos

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nureyev · 11/07/2013 19:39

I was testing the namechange has worked. Dh checks what I have been writing on here.

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soundstrue · 11/07/2013 19:51

Don't have any advice but your dh seems very controlling for someone that only wants to live as friends. I also believe that jealous people as the one's worth watching, it's like they're admitting their temptation by their jealous behaviour. Good luck.

nureyev · 11/07/2013 19:54

It's not really that possibility that bothers me, although it would probably be the final straw. It's more that DH can walk into a room after being away for two weeks, say ehllo to the kids and not to me. Or that he screamed at me recently because I couldn't hear him calling me. I am partially deaf. I am sick of it. I just feel guilty because he is also having a difficult time outside our marriage.

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HappyDoll · 11/07/2013 19:57

Sorry I was so flippant above.
This sounds like a very unhealthy place for you to be. You should be researching your options, there is always an option to leave.

nureyev · 11/07/2013 19:59

I'No problem. I'm afraid I would insist that he do the leaving.

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HappyDoll · 11/07/2013 20:06

If he is skint, he's not going to. That's probably why he wants this untenable arrangement. There are options for a fresh start, just have a look into it.

nureyev · 11/07/2013 20:18

I think it is really for the children, and when I look at them my heart breaks because I want them to be happy and not have all the pain f a divorce. I almost convince myself I could do it for them. But then I think of them growing up seeing all his lack of love for me and thinking that that is what a relationship is, and it feels like that is worse.

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fengirl1 · 11/07/2013 20:33

Nureyev, many women try to hold it together for the sake of the children - it doesn't work. Your way is much better. Surely your children deserve at least one happy parent? Your dh is responsible for his own happiness; you have tried to change things but never will if he doesn't want to. As hard as the conversation might be, tell him you don't want to be with him anymore - and tell him you don't want him to live in the same house as you either. I think he's staying because its the easy thing for him to do, BUT it isn't for you and your children.

nureyev · 11/07/2013 20:36

I am dreading him coming home. I suppose in my mind I've put that I have to talk to him tonight. I've been putting it off for days, but it's making me so sick and nervous.

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nureyev · 11/07/2013 20:37

and sad.

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nureyev · 11/07/2013 21:05

Thanks Fengirl. I can't believe this ever would be 'my way'. It is totally against my nature. This is just exhausting though and it is getting worse. I came down last night when he wasn't expecting it and I saw an expression of contempt on his face when I saw him. My DH who I love so much I dont want to be with any more. I can't believe this is my life.

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mummytime · 11/07/2013 21:14

There are thing far worse for children to live through than divorce.

It can be like avoiding having a bad splinter pulled out of your foot because it will hurt. The hurt of having the splinter removed is nothing compared to the on going and worsening disability of an infected foot.

nureyev · 11/07/2013 21:17

God. I'm an idiot. I'm sitting here trying to read a book and feeling worried and I know if he walked throughthe door and gave me a big hug I'd forget it all and try again. Except he won't.

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nureyev · 11/07/2013 21:40

Well, he's still not home, so I suppose it is nt going to happen tonight anyway.

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fengirl1 · 11/07/2013 22:00

Nureyev - it wasn't mine either. I hung on and hung on, letters, notes, emails as well as conversations. In the end I had enough respect for myself to want to be with somebody who loved me and cared about me (I still loved him at that point). I have to say that he eventually killed off any love I had for him. It's very sad to get to that point, but makes it easier.

AnyFucker · 11/07/2013 22:04

You are doing this damaging and soul destroying thing for your children ?

Really ?

I think you are both fucking them up, actually

It would be less harmful to agree to simply go your separate ways and co-parent them

AndTheBandPlayedOn · 11/07/2013 22:42

Hello nureyev, I am sorry you are going throuh this.
You know that here will never be a "good" time to have the conversation.

My gut feeling from what you have written (and may be totally wrong) is that perhaps he is not being honest with you. He has been using the pity card against your kind and decent nature for 3 years now (!) ? How can he travel so much if he is so broke? How can he be angry about not being with the children everyday when he is off travelling and is thus not with them everyday?

Imho, and perhaps I am out of order for saying it, but it sounds like he is using you ... as a domestic appliance (a phrase from AF ? or SGB? Thanks, that one stuck with me Smile ). Or he wants the arrangement to avoid paying maintenance. At any rate, it is purly for his convience without any regard for your feelings on the matter (as if you did not even exist).

You are 100% right to want this arrangement to end.

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