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Marriage and children: feeling trapped, angry and bored

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nerofiend · 04/07/2013 18:12

I'm a mum of two DC, who works part time and looks after our DC the rest of the week. My DP is very good at everything practical around the house, including childcare. He cooks quite regularly and lately he's been doing quite a lot of cleaning and tidy up too.

I know my situation is not bad from the outside, however, I feel so trapped, angry and bored in my life at the moment. My DP has a better paid job than me and he works long hours so it could be said that we are able to pay an expensive mortgage, bills etc more thanks to him than me. He's not abusive about money but lately I realise he makes most decisions about money in our house and I sort of stay in the background. When we moved houses, he chose energy suppliers, domestic equipment etc etc. I was OK with this, but I feel like I'm losing my decision making power and I care less and less about practical stuff, which I don't think it's a positive thing as a whole, as I feel more like a child than an adult.

He's not violent or abusive, but he's got a bad drinking habit that I begged him over and over again to quit, but nothing changes. It's usually a few drinks in the evenings and occasionally at the put with friends or work colleagues, but I hate it. I think he's a functional alcoholic but I'm aware that I have to be careful using that word as people immediately think he's abusive and violent, which he's not.

He's also not very affectionate and loving on the whole, least of all in public. I usually feel alone and left out in social situations, as he goes to talk to people and completely forgets that I'm there in the place with him. A lot of the time I don't know the people around me very well so I feel very uncomfortable. I kind of avoid social situations like parties and weddings because of this. I feel like our relationship lacks a social dimension, and this makes me sad and angry. I've talked to him about it many times, but nothing changes on this front either. I dread it when an invitation comes through the door and I'm always making excuses not to go. If he does't drive, there's the additional dread that he's going to be very drunk and I find that extremely upsetting.

I look at the people on FB and the way they seem to celebrate each other and their families, and I know I will never have any of that.

It seems that my life is somehow sorted on a practical level - which is not to be underestimated, I know - , but there are other levels on which I feel a deep sense of loneliness, void and lack of connection, not only to my partner but with people around me too.

I love my DC with all my heart and they're the main thing at the moment that keeps me going.

I suppose I need some counselling but I can't afford it as our combined salary is too high to get any help for myself.

I'd love to hear words of advice or from people in a similar situation as mine. It's so hard to feel so alone.

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onetiredmummy · 04/07/2013 19:57

My exH was a functioning alcoholic too OP, just as you describe but in his case he moved to cocaine as well. I get where you're coming from when you go out together & other people are instantly more important than you & you may as well not be there. Plus if you have a decent lifestyle then people can be less sympathetic. I get that you feel neglected & you know the drinking habit needs to be addressed by him too.

Why are you upset when he's drunk? Nothing wrong with that at all but narrow it down a bit for me?

Do you want to stay with him? Put aside his money & your creature comforts & ask yourself if you would still be with him if he were penniless & claiming benefits. Do you love him?

If you want to continue with him then take back some control. Why not check that your energy suppliers etc are still the best? Just because he chose them initially doesn't mean you can't change them from time to time.

Remember that on FB you only see relationships from the outside too :)

dreamingbohemian · 04/07/2013 20:21

I'm sorry you're having to deal with this. I would feel sad and awful in your shoes too. Money isn't everything, of course you need love and affection and respect, you need to feel valued and like you are your own independent person.

Have you tried to talk about any of this with him? Do you think there are things he could do that would improve things?

I'm concerned that you say you can't do counseling because his salary is too high. Surely, if he is making decent money, there is enough for some counseling? Or do you mean you'd have to hide it from him and pay for it yourself?

nerofiend · 04/07/2013 20:31

Thanks for your reply Onetiredmummy. Regarding him getting drunk, I just don't like interacting with him when he's like that. He's not his usual self even though as I said before he's not abusive, he's just obnoxious. I don't drink much and find drunk people obnoxious and boring at best.
The whole drink issue has been bringing me down for so long. I talk about it but nothing changes. His family thinks is normal as they're drinkers themselves.

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nerofiend · 04/07/2013 20:40

Hi dreaming, he makes a decent salary but we manage just about every month. No luxuries or savings either. It's just that our mortgage is so high and we pay childcare too. Maybe when both our dc are at school we might be able to afford it. My salary is very low and couldn't afford we've got on that so that's why a part of me feels appreciative of that. I agree that it's not all about money but these days even the basics are very hard afford, esp when children are involved.

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Heartbrokenmum73 · 04/07/2013 20:44

Ugh, OP, your DP sounds very like my STBEx. He's from a large Irish family and drinking is just what they do. Everything revolves around alcohol and we reached a point where I just point blank refused to go to any more bloody Christenings/Holy Communions/Confirmations/Weddings/Funerals - these are the only times his supposedly religious relatives actually set foot in a church and it's ALL about the piss-up afterwards. I also got tired of being the spare wheel at functions, being left in the corner on my own, looking after the dc while he got wankered. And to top it all, some of his family think I'm up myself because I don't like getting drunk (or even drinking) at midday!

My STBEx is also a cock when drunk. Like yours, not abusive (although has been violent in the distant past) but an obnoxious arse who I don't want to be around. But no, there's no drinking issues because, as you say, all his family do it, so it's normal. We'll ignore his Mum's alcoholic dementia that put her in a home in her 50s then Hmm.

I'm sorry I have no actual advice to give you. I just wanted to let you know that I've been there, done that, and you're not alone in suffering what seems like a 'good' relationship but actually feels pretty shit at times. I've been 'lucky' in a way - he decided two months ago he doesn't love me any more. I've been through denial, grief and am now going through 'fuck you then' and have applied for a job by the sea (where my family live) and am looking to move me and my kids down there over the summer. It's come at a shit time - I'll be 40 in November, who will want a single Mum in her 40s? - but I'm trying really hard to be positive and look forward. Maybe you need to do that too. PM me if you need to - I'll be here.

zzzexhaustedzzz · 04/07/2013 20:49

I have been in similar circumstances. It didn't end well (though my ex was/ is an arsehole).
I wish I had had an upfront conversation about the finances with him. We never had a joint account. I only had my wages and child benefit, which went on childcare and day to day with children plus my clothes etc. Can you have a chat about this with him and let him know you need more control? Certainly you should expect him to agree that you as a couple need to pay for counselling and not feel bad in the slightest. I wanted to go to uni, that would have cost a bit, he was very negative about it, I should have pushed him. I needed essential dental work done, again a couple of grand but we could afford it - I didn't feel ok about even asking him! Our relationship was getting more and more distant during this time. But I'd carried on when I should have left him.

SnoopyLovesYou · 04/07/2013 21:03

Sent you a private message :-)

nerofiend · 04/07/2013 21:16

Thank you all for your words and kind replies. It does help to share similar experiences as marriage can be a lonely place sometimes. Esp one where alcohol is present nearly on a daily basis.
I sometimes long for the embrace of someone who really gets where I'm coming from. I feel so disconnected from my eh right now.

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nerofiend · 04/07/2013 21:17

Sorry meant to write dp

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joanofarchitrave · 04/07/2013 21:19

I'd suggest at least getting on the waiting list for NHS counselling. If you have to wait, you have to wait, but usually people get something eventually. Can be very good.

zzzexhaustedzzz · 04/07/2013 21:28

My gp's surgery does counselling, go and see yours?

EarthtoMajorTom · 04/07/2013 23:09

Try Al-Anon for help and support in living with someone with an alcohol problem. Recommended from personal experience.
Best wishes.

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