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Advice, anyone?

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Safyre · 01/07/2013 10:42

Apologies in advance, this got a bit long.

So, backstory, DH and I have been married for almost 6 years and together for 12. We have 1 DS (10m). We now live and work in the same town the DH was brought up in (about 30 miles from my family) and have regular contact with his family, and get on well with all of them.

DM has been? less than reasonable since the birth of DS. She has been told repeatedly by DF to back off, give us space, that he is not her son, etc, etc. This almost always provokes tears. She has told me on multiple occasions how ?hurt? and ?devastated? she is that DS is now spending 3 days a week with DFiL (DFiL does not work and DMiL works part-time ? my parents both work full/almost full time). She has been in tears that DS is not going to have a relationship with her and DF (this is obviously nonsense and he knows and loves them both). She completely misunderstood a text message and had a near-breakdown as DSis?s desk (they work in the same office) because she though DS was staying overnight with PiL when he hasn?t yet stayed overnight with her. She (and I) both have Fridays off and always spend them together doing something with DS. She started taking Fridays off because I had mild PND and was not coping well with 5 days with DS alone. Fridays are not the only day that DS and I have alone, and we spend them all with her. I don?t grudge this at all, but she doesn?t seem to have thought about that.

Last week we had a giant battle over DSiL, who DM does not like at all. This is not the first fight we have had over her, mostly when DM has taken something that she?s done (that I?ve mentioned in passing) completely the wrong way. She ended up (again) in floods of tears, to that point that I was ready to phone DF at work to calm her down. I had asked how exactly I was supposed to have them all at e.g. DS?s birthday party in a few months, when I?d be on edge all day waiting on DSiL saying something, DM taking it the wrong way, and all hell breaking loose. She said I was always making her out to be the bad one and burst into tears again?

I discussed this at length with DSis, who claims that DM feels that no one needs her anymore and that she?s just useless. I pointed out that a year or so ago, she was complaining because everyone brought their problems to her and she was tired of it, and she complained so vehemently that I struggled with PND for months before finally telling DF about it, from where it got back to DM. Now we have the opposite problem.

We also had an argument over me having to ?ask permission from? DH (her words) before she could take DS to her cousin?s birthday party yesterday. I wasn?t asking permission, I was checking that DH didn?t have any plans in mind as, now that we are both working 4 days, we only get 2 days a week together as a family. As it happened DH was not at all happy about it, but as she?d nagged so much I?d already said yes to her anyway. He was understanding, but he?s not happy about the whole situation ? particularly as I so often come home upset after having upset DM.

Any thoughts on where I go from here? I?ve spent 10 months trying to make sure the entire family sees as much of DS as I can, but I just feel like it?s never enough, particularly for DM. And I can?t talk to her about anything without her bursting into tears.

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onetiredmummy · 01/07/2013 12:24

If you can't talk to her in an adult way without her crying then a reasonable approach won't work. You seem as though you are trying your best but barring any underlying medical reasons, why can't she have a proper conversation with you about all this?

What's going on between your dmum & dsil?! If your mum is having a near breakdown at sil's desk while at work then it won't benefit either of them.

Was your mum OK before your ds came along or was she behaving abnormally with sil then?

EldritchCleavage · 01/07/2013 12:34

This is going to sound harsh and I don't mean it to, but you have to ignore the crying. By that I mean, take your DM's tears out of the equation when considering what is reasonable. Otherwise you end up being held to ransom by your mother's upset. I speak as someone with a mother who tends to be a bit like this, and a father who mediates.

Has she always been like this or is this a recent development? If the later, do you think she might be depressed or have some other medical issue?

Also, don't 'triangulate', tempting as it is (i.e. speak to other family members who will tackle her on your behalf). Keep it direct, and firm but kind. I don't think any of your arrangements sound unreasonable, and your DM is getting plenty of time with your son. The competition thing with PIL sounds petty and horrible.

I really recommend this book for some insight and a possible way forward.

Safyre · 01/07/2013 13:07

Thank you for the replies, and apologies for the fact that all punctuation in my original messages seems to have turned into question marks...

The first hint I got of this behaviour was when she phoned me in tears at 5:30 the morning I was in labour with DS, because she was going to London that day for work and she felt terrible not to be there, etc, etc. Previously, she had categorically stated that she did not want to be at the hospital with me (I asked her).

I have no idea what is going on between my DM and DSis. I know DSis has had problems over the last few years, has moved back in with our parents etc but every time she gets brought up in a conversation all I get is "[Dsis] has problems that you have no idea about!" followed by a load of excuses for whatever I've asked about.

As for her dislike of DSiL, that's been going on for almost as long as DH and I have been together, which is ridiculous because DSiL was 12 when we met...

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