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Marriage not working and feeling guilty

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GummiBear100 · 25/06/2013 09:55

I am posting here because I could really do with knowing if there is anyone else on here who has experienced similar. Havn't posted on MN before. Am married to a man who in many ways is a good man. He is a good father to our children in many ways. He can be tricky to be around sometimes, and I am not the only person who has said that, but I'm not perfect either. My problem is this. We have been together a long time as we met when we were a lot younger. I havn't been happy for a long time but have only really started addressing that over the the past 18 months. I am having counselling to address some issues. I am unhappy in the marriage. We are still living under the same roof , basically looking after the kids,but that is all (not that that isn't a lot). There is a lot of love between us but it feels platonic. It is complex as we have a long shared history and children together. I feel chronically depressed and am struggling to try and carry on so as not to break the family up but I am deeply unhappy. I am pretty sure that I am suffering from depression and have been for months now. The counselling seems to be helping, but slowly. It isn't couples counselling; I go on my own.I feel incredible guilt that I am not happy when it isn't as if he is a complete effwit or anything (although he is hard to live with. But maybe I am too). Has anyone else experienced anything similar as I could really do with talking with anyone who has.

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HotDAMNlifeisgood · 25/06/2013 11:30

He can be tricky to be around sometimes

Give us examples of this?

Or read the links at the start of the "support for those in EA relationships" thread, and see if his brand of trickiness is what's described there.

GummiBear100 · 25/06/2013 13:52

Thanks for replying, I was feeling like a right billy-no-mates there.
I have had a quick look at the EA thread - a lot of it doesn't apply but some things do. I'm not sure it is his fault so much as how he is, but either way I am struggling with it. When I say he is tricky to be around, well I feel like a cow saying this, but it's just like living under a black cloud all the time. He is very insular and doesn't have any interests or friends outside the family, he is very good around the house, a bit too good really, as in I feel like he kind of does everything to sideline me if that makes sense?

Sounds crazy I know to complain about that, but its feels too much, it's suffocating, he wants to do everything in the house, and is the same with the kids on the parenting front, he kind of sidelines me, and if I say no it's fine I'll do that myself he gets really arsy with me. Physically things have always been completely crap, as in he shows little interest - this has made me feel crap and like I am not attractive. I recently lost weight (not for him, for me) and whilst that has made a big difference for me in terms of me feeling better about myself,and healthier, it has made no difference in that department. In truth though I'm past caring about/wanting that with him anyway.

Also, I can't get any privacy at home - not difficult, our flat is tiny - but if a friend phones up he gets really huffy if I chat on the phone with anyone for any length of time - he'll moan about 'oh not her again' or ask when I'm coming to bed.Just makes me feel really uncomfortable, like I'm doing something wrong. I never go out anywhere as it is other than taking the kids to school or to work. I don't have a social life here. He is supportive of me working, and he doesn't stop me going anywhere, but there's this disapproval thing with the phonecalls. I just don't get it.

He is really closed, if we talk it's about the kids but other than that there is no closeness. I can't tell him when I'm feeling sad or unhappy because he gets angry, like it's his fault. When all I want is to talk, for us to be close. It's like he can't deal with me having feelings let alone talk about them. It's as if I've got out of the habit of even knowing how I feel anymore, let alone being able to tell anyone. I don't have family around that I can talk to.

He is very moody which I find hard to live with. I like chatting with people and find that my mood is much lighter when he isn't around.

I told him the other day that I was depressed and unhappy and although I'm sure he must care he just doesn't seem to be able to express it so I feel like I can't tell him anything, I just feel uncomfortable. Even his own father has said frequently that he doesn't know how I put up with him, and his own sister acknowledges that he is 'hard work' as she puts it.

I don't think that he is a bad man at all, he really isn't, he is a good father a lot of the time but can also get really stressy and say things to the kids that I really do not like. He seems to think that if he is stressed then that excuses anything that he feels like saying. I don't think that's ok, especially not where kids are concerned.

There are other things but can't really list them all here without sounding like a right moaning cow.

I have tried to talk with him many many times but he won't discuss anything, he just verbally attacks, and avoids the issue, always. He is very closed and I have a lot of sympathy for that as I know he isn't a bad bloke, and that there must be a reason he is so closed up, but I just can't live like this anymore, I feel so lonely and starved of affection.

We have had time apart (he didn't seem that bothered about that either - that made me feel just great - he told his family I was 'depressed' and needed space - not true, I'd asked him to leave because we were arguing all the time and I was worried about the kids being around that, and I was deeply unhappy - it's like he won't take any responsibility for the relationship at all, won't even admit there's anything wrong, easier to say I'm having mental health issues) then he came back and nothing has changed (just co-parenting/living under same roof, nothing else going on there). I can't go on like this. It is dragging me down and making me deeply unhappy.

I feel like a cow saying all this but it's how it is. I could just really do with someone else's take on this, please, as I can't see the wood for the trees.

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KB02 · 25/06/2013 14:08

I have no experience in this other than that I am married with a dc. Your second post outlines how desperately unhappy you are. Have you read back through it, imagining you are reading someone else's situation? How do you feel when you imagine life out of the relationship?

Life is short and we all deserve to be happy. It sounds like talking to him will not help matters. His behaviour sounds very unreasonable. Some people are not suited to marriage or long term relationships.

Just because you want to be happy, does not make you a cow.

I just couldn't not post after seeing how terribly unhappy you seem. Hope you are able to take some steps towards improving things.

Let us know how you get on. And generally, mumsnet can be great for relationship advice.

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 25/06/2013 14:12

I think that this is one of those cases where you will find your depression lifts after you are no longer together.

You are not a cow for wanting happiness.

You are responsible for your own happiness. And I don't think anyone could be happy living with a black cloud of a person, as you currently do.

Val007 · 25/06/2013 15:08

Two words: Passive Aggressive.

The big books say they never change (sigh...)

GummiBear100 · 25/06/2013 16:03

Thank you for answering KBO2 - your post made me cry,am all over the place at the moment, and seeing it in writing that I'm not imagining it, that it's obvious to other people that I'm as unhappy as I feel inside just set me off. HotDAMNlifeisgood I know it probably sounds silly but it's as if I needed someone to tell me that I am not a cow for feeling the way that I do. I have doubted my own judgement for so long that I have forgotten how to trust it. If it was a friend in my situation I know I'd be saying they deserve happiness too. Why is it so hard to say that to myself? But I know that yes, I do. I googled passive-aggressive VAL007 and read up a bit and it was spot on :( I am still struggling to see that as EA in my situation as I really don't believe it's intentional on his part but I do think he carries that personality trait. I have a counselling appointment soon and I have a feeling that I know what we are going to be talking about. I really don't feel that I can carry on living under the same roof as him anymore and am going to have to ask him to leave or else I will go under. It feels like my menta health is on the line if I carry on living under the same roof as him. Not to mention first and foremost the effect on my kids if I go under.I have been feeling so guilty about breaking the family up, about it damaging my kids, but I'm now seeing that this is just as bad, living like this, if not worse. I'm beginning to accept that I'm not a complete cow for feeling this way - neither is he a complete effwit, but it IS how he is and I just can't live like this anymore. Just can't do it. And I don't he is going to change.

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KB02 · 25/06/2013 16:49

Sorry for making you cry, glad you've found this thread of some help .

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