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I look back and I don't recognise myself.

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notright · 12/06/2013 10:58

I have name changed for this as to be honest, I am embarassed, and this is the first time I've spoken about this outloud so please bear with me.

My marriage began to break down after the birth of our first child 6 years ago and during that time my H became emotionally abusive, very subtle at first, telling me I'd let myself go, I wasn't putting him first, told me my friends had told him I'd changed. This escalated over time to the point where he had also become very distant from me in the bedroom - working long hours (own business) from Mon to Sat.

At the time I had lost some very close family members and looking back now I can see that I was low and vulnerable, and clinging to my H and I still can't work out in my head whether or not he knew this and took advantage of it or it was pure co-incidence.

He'd tell me I was an ugly c* and I'd let myself go, I was a terrible mother, I didn't do enough around the house, he controlled when I went out and who I saw, restricted my family from visiting, threw away dinners that were cooked to his liking. But all the time I clung to him, throwing myself at him numerous times in the bedroom, to try and get close to him, being rejected over and over.

He was physically abusive to me 5 times, all of which were fuelled by alcohol and anger, each time I forgave and continued to try and get close to him again.

During this time, on the rare occasion we did sleep together and it was instigated by him, he would always want a* sex, never gentle love making, just very rough, if I said I didn't want to he would just say "I could take it". It was almost like he was punishing me, but I daren't think that because if that was the case, how could someone be so cruel and why did I let him? And why would he only want sex with me this way? Is this a "normal" trait of a controlling person???

It is humiliating because I allowed him to, because in my twisted mind I felt that some closeness of any kind was better than nothing.

That was a long time ago - we haven't had sex now for nearly 3 years and I won't ever degrade myself or humiliate myself like that again. I am stronger and have more respect for myself. I have started divorce proceedings and although he is refusing to leave the house, I am hopeful that in time he will. He is no longer able to control me either financially or emotionally. And I am not scared of him any more.

I guess I am just trying to understand what happened, and where it all went so wrong, and why I let it happen for so long, I look back to that time in my life and I don't recognise myself at all. Even in photos, it doesn't look like me. I look at him now and he makes my skin crawl. There is nothing.

Thank you for taking the time to listen.

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Hhhmmmmm · 12/06/2013 11:09

I'm not sure what kind of response you were looking for or if you just wanted to get it off your chest but I just wanted to say well done!

What ever was the reason for why it happened, don't feel bad or guilty. It is the past, you have beaten it/him and are a stronger person for it.

Oscalito · 12/06/2013 11:14

Well I suppose you were unhappy and vulnerable and now you are stronger and happier and healthier and looking after yourself. Well done.

RiotsNotDiets · 12/06/2013 11:15

It happened because he was a nasty, abusive shit.

You're doing amazing, hold your head up and keep going. Flowers

BTW, is there anyway you and your LO could leave the house? It can't be helping to still have the twat around.

notright · 12/06/2013 11:15

Thank you, I don't know, I think that's it, I wanted to say it outloud and acknowledge it. I guess I am still struggling to come to the terms with the fact that he was calculated enough to do all of this intentionally when I was at such a low and sad period in my life or if he is just mis guided and angry and I was the nearest person to take it all out on.

I guess I'll never know really.

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notright · 12/06/2013 11:18

Riots I'd love to leave, truly I would. We are both on the mortgage and therefore both obliged to pay it until this sorry mess is all over. He is digging his heels and saying I'll have to drag him through court etc.

But the ironic thing is, since I've started this process and begun to get back to being me again, I've never been happier. Even though it's such an uncomfortable atmosphere at home, I am happy. I am trying to protect our DS as much as possible from it all. Not easy some times but we are literally ships that pass in the night now, he still works until 10.11pm at night and I am in bed when he comes home. He hasn't slept in our bed for over 2 years. x

Thank you xx

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Lizzabadger · 12/06/2013 11:20

I think you should contact Women's Aid for advice. It may be possible for him to be forced to leave the home, given that he has assaulted you repeatedly. You may also want to do their "Freedom" programme. I am very glad you are detaching. I sincerely hope you follow through with the divorce.

notright · 12/06/2013 11:26

Lizzabadger I have just started the Freedom programme online. I had to stop yesterday because it unnerved me so much, the amount of characteristics my H shows to some of the examples given was scary. I feel like every day I am having my eyes opened even wider to what was going on. I will continue with it, on my stronger days.

I hae thought about trying to have him removed but he is a classic jekyl and hyde character, our son adores him, and to the outside world people think he's wonderful.

The one thing I do have on my side is that he's let his mask slip a couple of times, once in front of close friends and once because things got so out of hand our neighbours called the police because there were concerned for my safety. So there is a record of it even though I told the police it was just a silly arguement, again looking back I can't believe I did that but I was scared of losing him. It's crazy now I know. x

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Hhhmmmmm · 12/06/2013 11:34

I don't think knowing why would change your decisions re: your future would it? So would you be able to draw a line? Accept that not knowing is ok because you have moved on and are the better for it?

RiotsNotDiets · 12/06/2013 11:43

I agree with Lizza call women's aid 0808 2000 247

You should not have to put up with this lowlife invading your personal space. They will be able to advise you on how best to go about getting him out of the house.

Mollydoggerson · 12/06/2013 11:48

I'm so sorry this happened to you.

You will be free from him soon xx

SirSugar · 12/06/2013 12:00

Don't look back, You're not going that way....

notright · 12/06/2013 12:05

Thanks all. I have a lot of thinking to do.
SirSugar - love that!

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 12/06/2013 12:59

"And why would he only want sex with me this way? Is this a "normal" trait of a controlling person??? "

Anal rape is what you're describing and it can be a 'normal' trait of a sexually abusive offender, yes. It goes way beyond control and into the realms of actual bodily harm. You were not a voluntary or willing participant. You were coerced and told you had to 'take it'. Strictly speaking you could report him for rape right now.

I would strongly recommend that you move out of your home with your DS. Forget the mortgage. It would quite honestly be better to be bankrupt and living safely and independently from this abusive criminal than to spend a second longer in his company. Hope the Womens Aid course helps you. I really do.

ColinButterfly · 12/06/2013 13:28

You are doing amazing. These absolute cretins destroy your sense of self - that's the game. I'm 6 weeks free from my FW ex (fortunately only with him for 2 years, no DC, didn't live together so it's much quicker for me) having had my entire self destroyed.

Friends commented that I seemed distant and quiet
I was told I was ugly - I believed it
Told that I was stupid - I believed it

Don't be hard on yourself, it's very hard to resist when someone goes on a campaign to take you away from yourself. I honestly feel myself coming back with each day that passes. It's amazing.

PoppyField · 12/06/2013 13:31

Dear Notright,

Well done on detaching from this man. You will recognise him more and more for the monster he is. It's not surprising you feel somehow guilty for putting up with him or even colluding in his abuse of you - victims often feel ashamed and guilty (shame and guilt are an abuser's friends) - but it is absolutely NOT your fault. He picked on you when you were at your lowest ebb, most vulnerable and at the point where you most needed his support. He is an utter, utter vile excuse for a human being for doing this to you. You have had the strength to realise this and to act on it. Well done you. Keep going with the Freedom Programme. It is bound to bring all sorts of feelings to the surface. The horrors of the physical and sexual abuse may torment you further, so it would probably be good to talk to people who completely understand how you feel at Women's Aid. You have done nothing wrong.

And I agree with other posters. I really wish you and your DS were not under the same roof as him, as he is a violent, as well as a vile, man.

Wishing you all the best. You deserve to have a wonderful life with your child.

Donething · 12/06/2013 14:50

OMG Notright. How awful for you. I'm new on here and recently posted about my own problems, some of which relate quite similarly to yours, though I haven't gone into detail with everything. I am some way behind you in that I'm still 'with' H but he's controlling and bullying a lot of the time, blaming it on being away during the week and problems early in our marriage that he still keeps going on about even now and punishing me for. Some of the things you said made me go cold, I could have written some of what you wrote, the difference being you are able to talk about it in the past tense as a relatively 'free' woman despite being stuck under the same roof. I am still trying to cope and work out what to do for the best and am taking advice from the kind people on here. I'm not in a position to tell you what I think you should do as I'm not strong enough at the moment, but I agree that living together long term can't be healthy and is only ever a temporary solution. Good luck with everything.

Rosehassometoes · 12/06/2013 15:43

Traumatic bonding?

Lizzabadger · 12/06/2013 17:06

I'm very glad you are doing the Freedom Programme. This man has systematically abused you. It is hard to see it when you are in the thick of it and shocking when you realise the extent of it afterwards. Look after yourself.

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