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Affairs are abuse

67 replies

Wellwobbly · 09/06/2013 09:11

'Its not 'Just an Affair

Sustaining an affair involves the emotional manipulation and psychological control of another person. A person who trusts and relies on you. At the beginning, it?s constructing and controlling an alternate reality, where you aren?t where you say you are and you?re not with who you say you?re with. Then it progresses to smoke-screening: ?we?re just friends?, ?there?s nothing going on? or ?I wouldn?t do that to you?. And then, at the risk of discovery, desperation creeps in and it becomes mind games: ?no, you must be imagining things?, ?don?t be silly?, ?you don?t know what you?re talking about? or ?you must be crazy?. At this point you might also pick fights or find fault with your partner to create conflict or emotional distance so you can justify to yourself the feelings you are developing for someone else.

But your words don?t fit right, don?t make sense and you can?t look your partner in the eye. Its little signs such as these, a change, a ?differentness,? a ?not rightness?, that your partner has noticed. At first they dismissed them, preferring to trust you, but then their intuition started setting off warning bells. They ignored these for a while, because they wanted to continue believing you. And then there were some clear signs they just couldn?t ignore any more, the item of clothing left in the car, the newly purchased underwear, the late night phone calls. Maybe they confronted you and maybe you denied it, maybe this happened several times, but at some, final point they are forced to make the world-splitting choice: am I going crazy or are you having an affair? Am I losing my mind or am I losing you?

Cultivating an alternate reality so an affair can continue undiscovered destroys, amongst many other things, the cheated party?s perceptiveness, intuition, confidence and, more than their trust in you, their trust in their own senses. Trust is the foundation of relationships. It is also the foundation for mental health and emotional wellbeing. In sustained affairs, sex is not the hardest thing to get over; it?s the deeper and more long-term affect of having to put the pieces of your intellect and your shattered self-esteem back together and learn to trust yourself again.

Both mind games and emotional manipulation are forms of domestic abuse. Sustained affairs are covert, insidious abuse that has dire consequences for families and yet it?s also the sort of abuse that can be minimized, condoned or even glorified in the media. It?s the sort of abuse that is commonly ?blamed on the victim?: it happens because of a woman?s ?declining interest in sex?. Psychological and emotional abuse are forms of domestic violence and include humiliation, contempt and controlling behaviours. Affairs involve all of these. Acts of omission are also included in one definition. In Hurting Without Hitting: Non-physical Contact Forms of Abuse, Laurie Mackinnon lists: withholding necessary information, refusing to communicate for extended periods, ignoring the other person?s attempts to interact, failure to confirm the other person?s feelings or needs and failure to show appropriate affection or love.

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Mental and emotional abuse has an effect on physical health. Infections and stress related illnesses are commonplace as are driving accidents due to distraction. One woman I know of recently went though a red light ? with her two children in the back seat - after her husband had just disclosed his affair. Those who are psychologically abused are at risk of anxiety and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Emotional abuse in the form of rejection leads to feelings of shame and the powerlessness that comes from losing control of your life to helplessness and depression. I know of both women and men who have thought about or attempted suicide after they found out about a partner?s affair.

Having sex unknowingly with a trusted partner who has been having sex, protected or not, is a sexual violation, a form of sex abuse. When they find out, many women feel as if they have been raped by their partner; had they known of the affair, there is no way the sex would have been consented to.

If the ?third party? is knowingly involved in the affair, then they are collaborating in the mental, emotional and sexual abuse of another. If they do not know that the person they are involved with is leading a double life, if they have been informed the person is ?separated? before the partner they are supposedly ?separated from?, then they are being abused also.

All affairs leave marks, particularly those that entail psychological and emotional control and manipulation. You might not be able to see them, but they are black and blue.'

Elly Taylor is a relationship counselor and the author of Becoming Us, Loving, Learning and Growing Together, the Essential Relationship Guide for Parents.

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 10/06/2013 12:50

You have it real bad, fell Grin

CarpeVinum · 10/06/2013 13:17

Oh hey it's not effortless super clever.

It's "cheating".

Cos it's not the first time I've had the conversation.

My original response in about 1986 was...

Argle Bargle NO! Woffle foffle WTF ? Blardiblah "appear to have forgotten my point" whinge huff puff wibble..."

There was this big gap between "thing that is bouncing around inside my psyche" and the actual words coming out of my mouth.

I suffer badly from delayed "intelligence". Takes me about two decades on average to actually come up with whole sentences (and badly spelled words) that more or less fit what I think the "GANRRRAHWAOOORA" thing in my belly is trying to say.

I would like one of those brains that come up with words rather than growls from the get go. Becuase there are 347 million arguments/debates I have lost due to only managing to work out what I should have said ...... 14 years later.

Usually at 2.45 am. When I sit bolt upright from sleep going "Ha!"

And then I can't get back to sleep cos I seethe with irritation that I have no precise memory who I was having the argument with so I can't google them, call them and go "......and another thing...!"

Which is probably just as well really, cos if I did do that it might make me seem a little .... "odd".

TheRealFellatio · 10/06/2013 13:27

Ah! I see! That's why I like MN - I can think long and hard about my answer and make sure it sounds impressive before I hit send. Well that's the theory, anyway. Sometimes I find myself lacking in practice. Grin

And sometimes I start, realise that to make my point properly will take at least 4 paragraphs and some considerable amount of effort, and I think 'Fuck it. I'm not sure I even care whether anyone on MN agrees with what I think any more, and I can't even be bothered to tell them. I'll just think it in my head instead. They are all wrong and I am right'

This is when you know you should really end the relationship because it's run its course, but you stay out of habit and because you haven't met anyone better yet. Grin

CarpeVinum · 10/06/2013 13:32

Fuck it. I'm not sure I even care whether anyone on MN agrees with what I think any more, and I can't even be bothered to tell them. I'll just think it in my head instead. They are all wrong and I am right'

I see we are on the same page. That tends to be my preferred stratagy in the threads where I keep visiting the "post" box in, but never actually hit send. Grin

Keithp92 · 21/09/2023 23:40

Anyone saying an affair happens because of problems in a marriage lead to an affair is infact a form of victim blaming which is a form of abuse along with affair. To say something is not abuse because doing something to hurt or that your spouse doesn't like is not necessarily abuse is equivalent of saying oh your partner doesn't like being yelled at or hit or anything for that matter would not be abuse by proxy because no one likes to be hit yelled at or hurt emotionally or physically. Abuse is any form of emotional physical or psychological knowing that intent behind action will cause said harm. What is the definition of abuse?
Abuse is when someone causes us harm or distress. It can take many forms, ranging from disrespect to causing someone physical or mental pain. It can occur in someone's home, a care home, hospital or a public place.

Fireandflames666 · 22/09/2023 10:36

Having suffered from this I can confirm it is indeed abuse, he also emotionally abused his children. I hate the man and his wench.

BlastedPimples · 22/09/2023 18:32

Lying, deceiving and betrayal are cruel, planned behaviours.

They leave people damaged through the trauma of finding out the person they trusted is not to be trusted at all.

I think it's most definitely abusive to behave in such a way.

I wonder if those who claim it isn't abusive have never experienced how disorienting, distressing and painful such behaviours are.

The book Cheating in a Nutshell is an interesting read.

Thewookiemustgo · 24/09/2023 04:51

Deliberate lying and deceiving is an abuse of trust in a mutually agreed monogamous relationship.
Lying, telling somebody they must be crazy to believe that, and presenting a fake reality when challenged about their behaviour, is gaslighting, an abuse of someone else’s mental health and peace of mind.
Denying someone choice in a sexual relationship by hiding the fact that you are sleeping with someone else too, is an abuse of someone else’s rights and agency in a consensually monogamous relationship.
Depending on the relationship dynamics, affairs can be an abuse of relational power in the primary and the affair relationships.
Affairs are a thought-out, deliberate, planned set of choices which usually make the perpetrators feel guilty. Why? Because they know they are doing wrong, they know that their behaviours are an abuse of all of the above towards their partner, sometimes also towards the OW, but they do it anyway.
I doubt many cheats embark on affairs solely to abuse their partners, the affair is usually has purely selfish motives, but deliberately choosing to do wrong to their unwitting partners on a daily basis for purely selfish gain is abusive behaviour.

Sayitaintso33 · 26/09/2023 07:09

Breaking your marriage vows is abusive, but the only marriage vow most of us seem to worry about is the promise to be faithful.

Marriage vows/ promises vary but most include to love and to cherish. I don't read of many women in MN who love and cherish their partners nor of many who think it is important for marriage vows to be respected.. You are allowed to fall out of love at any time. Of course you are, that is why we have the Ick. Next you'll be telling me a married woman having the Ick is abusive.

BlastedPimples · 26/09/2023 07:27

@Sayitaintso33 stupid thing to say. Nobody is going to say falling out of love with someone is abuse.

Not feeling the love or desire to cherish is quite different to lying, deceiving and betraying.

It's ok to fall out of love. That's not abuse. As long as you.handle it with integrity and honesty.

Thewookiemustgo · 26/09/2023 12:19

Falling out of love is, of course, a natural thing to happen. Relationships break up because of reasons other than infidelity that are also not abuse. Totally separate issue.
It’s whether what you do next when you fall out of love / think you’ve fallen out of love is abusive which is in question her. Are you honest and open about it or do you avoid, lie and deceive and make your spouse anxious and depressed, doubting their sanity?
One approach having fallen out of love is not abusive, the other approach is. Deliberately presenting a fake reality to someone and lying about it when challenged is mentally abusive.
Of course all marriage vows are important, but infidelity is the one being discussed here. It’s the question asked by the OP. That people are responding to.

Sayitaintso33 · 01/10/2023 10:16

BlastedPimples · 26/09/2023 07:27

@Sayitaintso33 stupid thing to say. Nobody is going to say falling out of love with someone is abuse.

Not feeling the love or desire to cherish is quite different to lying, deceiving and betraying.

It's ok to fall out of love. That's not abuse. As long as you.handle it with integrity and honesty.

But is breaking a solemn promise abusive?

BlastedPimples · 01/10/2023 10:58

@Sayitaintso33 no. Lying, cheating, gaslighting and pretending to be something you're not is abusive.

Are you being obtuse?

BlastedPimples · 01/10/2023 11:00

And lying, cheating and gaslighting are intrinsic parts of an affair.

Bit bored of the adultery apologists on MN.

IvorTheEngineDriver · 01/10/2023 11:52

I know only one objection to your theory OP, namely this. It is not true.

BreakTheChain · 01/10/2023 12:35

It does feel like you are on the receiving end of abuse when you find out your partner has had an affair. A lot of manipulation, lies and gas lighting goes into maintaining an affair and as the betrayed spouse you suffer the trauma.

It is not illegal in most countries (can't say which countries it is legal/illegal in) but it bloody hurts. Its easy to focus anger this way and it's a natural part of the grieving process to feel anger. You might find the website Surviving Infidelity a more practical forum for expressing your views and hurt. I found it far more approachable in the aftermath of revealing my exs affair

Usedandhurt · 01/10/2023 16:40

Rulesgirl · 09/06/2013 16:54

Yes sometimes affairs are totally premeditated as a bit of fun and I think that's worse. Then you are totally in control and are choosing to hurt someone. But a lot of the time there are problems in the marriage and they are not sorted until an affair happens and then the problems are brought to light. Affairs happen but not usually in marriages where both parties are totally happy within their relationship.

I think the issue there is that the person being cheated on would say they aren’t aware of any issues within the marriage. Either way the person cheating chose to go outside the marriage rather than try to resolve them within it. With regard to abuse I don’t know if that’s the word I would use but then I’ve not been cheated on.

there are so many reasons given for affairs - selfish people wanting excitement, lonely people who feel rejected, people in sexless marriages- it’s really not a one size fits all.

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