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Family issues- Its gonna be a long one!

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PigeonFeet · 06/06/2013 11:20

Namechanged because I don't want too much attached to my regular name or being outed....

Its based around my mother.
Long history but to give a small bit of back ground - DH and mum don't get on. Dh and I have been together 9 years and have one ds (5) . We have a good relationship. Dh and mum never see each other - he is never mentioned. She has tried to split us up in the past a few times including phoning the police and making up things to get arrested. (Pre-ds. He was arrested and everything was dropped due to nothing matching up....surprise surprise!)
Myself and my mum are not close - I can't really remember ever being but it all went to pot when I hit my mid teens, and then again when I got with dh....

A few months ago I heard that things were being said - that I was un-happy with dh and that I wanted out. All un-true and it all came from dm. I found out because my inlaws asked dh if we were ok. There was details in there that could only have come from dm!

It all came to a head when she phoned me one night and asked if she had done something wrong....I pulled her up on it. She denied it, cried off and put my arse of a sd on the phone who pushed and pushed until the situation was sky high.
I later arranged to phone my mum the day after (thinking all would have died down a tad by then) to talk.

Roll on the next day - I'm waiting for a phonecall from dm and I get one fro sd - saying have I changed my mind about anything - err no, because I haven't spoken to dm so how can I???!!! Then I get ' We don't ever want to see or hear from you again...blah blah blah.' Now for something that I may get flamed for....that suited me fine! I am quite happy not having them in my life. I felt better for it - like a huge weight had lifed off my shoulders.

Anyway...thats how it started - all was quiet for until a month ago....I get a phonecall from dm (the first contact since she cried off) asking to talk about it - by the end of a 15min conversation I was in tears, she had laid on the guilt thick and fast about the rest of my family being 'devastated' and quite frankly I have had enough. Why the hell would I ever want a relationship with someone who makes me feel like that? :(

I am completely over why all this started, what is pissing me off is that she cannot let it go and accept that it needs to be left!

Roll on today - I get another phonecall of dm this morning - 'You will come and talk to me about this' was her first words . Again - guilt was laid on, its my fault that some family are upset, its my fault that they are ill, its my fault that this can't be sorted, if I don't go and talk to her she will come to my house , or send a family member ...... apparently I am selfish and not a nice person - this all escalated into a shouting match (which is hugely out of character for me) . I hang up - she phones again - much of the same. I end up hanging up in tears....again. I have had texts since from sd saying I have to speak to my mum or he will get someone else to ask me..

I have had enough - is this wrong of me??

I don't give a flying fuck about why this all started anymore - its the way its being handled now that its making me angry and upset. In fact it all started when my dm put sd on the phone that night without having the decency to talk to me herself . I really do just want them to leave me alone - I would be more than relieved if I never saw or spoke to them again - I have said this. Maybe I am a bad person for it but I can't take much more!

I am sat here dreading someone coming over and then having to row again, dreading even more of its the family member threatened by my dm, that would seriously be a huge guilt trip and hard!!!. I bloody hate it -I hate upsetting people but I really am in the mind frame that me, ds, and dh have to come first now! Things are tough for other reasons too and I am already under a massive amount of stress before any of this on top.

I think I'm venting.....I have chewed of so many people ears in the last few months I feel bad for laying on more ...

Am I wrong for just wanting to get on with things?

Everytime I think things are ok - I get a dreaded phonecall :(

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bluestar2 · 06/06/2013 11:33

I'm sure someone with better insight will be along to help soon. Until then I would suggest you tell her you are ceasing contact because of her and SD behaviour. Keep it brief and give her no fuel for argument. if you feel you need to explain to her further maybe consider writing, at least then she can't manipulate what you have said to others as its in black-and-white.

If anyone turns up dont answer the door. If she persists down this route I would suggest changing tp numbers etc . If she hfas fabricated allegations in past the less contact you usvee the better. She is undoubtedly doing the same with family members now. I'm sorry your dm is putting you through this

bluestar2 · 06/06/2013 11:34

Apologies for spelling, stupid phone!

Snorbs · 06/06/2013 11:45

Just because she's your mother it doesn't give her the right to make you feel like shit.

You have no obligation whatsoever to talk to her just because she insists that you must. She's wrong. You are allowed to put the phone down.

She's having a tantrum and dragging anyone and everyone in because you're not doing what she wants you to do. You're a grown-up. You don't have to. Do what is best for you and if that means going No-Contact for a while then so be it. A bit of peace may well do you the power of good.

musickeepsmesane · 06/06/2013 11:53

Block her on your mobile. Use caller id on your landline and don't pick up. If she won't listen to you I agree with the suggestion to write. Be very, very careful though. Don't slag of her partner or her. Simply ask to be left alone and explain why in as short and simple a way as possible. Keep it on one page.
You have every right to live your own life without all that shit. I am shocked at how many mums make their kids lives miserable. Fuck them all. Drown your guilt in chocolate. Actually, there is no reason for you to feel guilty. Your mum has done nothing to deserve your love or respect. You are right to put your family first. It is the way it should be. I am sorry you are going through this Flowers

MumnGran · 06/06/2013 11:57

Stop answering the phone!
If she can't talk to you, she can't upset you.
Just get a handset with caller display so you can selectively ignore (if its the landline she is using) or get BT to block her number.

Have your DH talk to SD and tell him to back off.
Explain briefly to other family members that you have gone NC because of the rumours she was spreading, but don't be tempted to run her down to them. Just explain in a sentence or two .... then change the subject.

Job done
And it sounds as though no contact is the right move for you.

PigeonFeet · 06/06/2013 11:59

Thankyou :)

I am trying with the no contact but it does my head in when they constantly call, I cave, answer, hang up and then it starts again until I answer! Blocking may be the answer here!
Just had a knock at the door and jumped out of my skin - just someone dropping some keys off but bugger me I'm on edge!!!

Honestly when there was a big gap of no talking after 'the night' when there was nothing , when I did see her (dropped ds off for a hour) I had no emotion. I was quite happy to keep it distant but civil!

But she is dragging it up again!

I swear I would never treat anyone , let alone my child, the way she is making me feel at the moment! :(

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Windingdown · 06/06/2013 12:10

You are not a bad person. You wouldn't treat your child like it. She is treating her child like it. They sound like nasty toxic people to me. Stay the hell away from them, google "toxic parents", visit the MN stately homes threads and keep repeating your words to yourself: -

I am quite happy not having them in my life. I feel better for it - a huge weight has lifed off my shoulders.

Why the hell would I ever want a relationship with someone who makes me feel like that?

SlittySluttySlots · 06/06/2013 12:15

Windingdown beat me to it but do have a look at the Stately Home thread so you can see you're not alone, it's not you - it's her, you shouldn't feel guilt for removing her from your life and you DO deserve better!

Can you pop out today so you're not around in case someone does appear? Take DS for a trip to the park and spend some time with a member of your family who (rightly) thinks you're great just the way you are Smile

grumpyinthemorning · 06/06/2013 15:34

I know how this feels, my mother hates DP. We had her screaming at us in the street, spreading lies and rumours, making a big deal of cutting us off...when anyone asks about it I just shrug and say "she knows where I am if she wants to talk". She is pure venom, and it was such a relief when I didn't have to deal with her anymore.

No contact is the way to go. I know it's hard, but trust me, it gets easier! Feel free to message me if you want to talk.

tb · 06/06/2013 18:34

She's unbelievably toxic, and, to me, it seems as if your sd is either toxic too, or her enabler.

I'd consider changing your phone number if I were you, and making it ex-directory. Either that, or you could take a leaf out of her book and report her for harassment.

PigeonFeet · 06/06/2013 21:27

Well, this afternoon I get a text saying that she hates all the arguing and is just worried about family members and that she misses me Hmm .

I have ignored and will carry on ignoring. No one has shown up at my door as yet...we shall wait and see!

grumpy Thankyou , its nice to know I'm not the only one! :)

tb My sd is a royal arsed prick! He used to knock her around when I was a kid. I remember this clearly, they had a horrible relationship for a long time, seems better for the last few years but he is a arrogant bully and I think is probably either pushing her or being the 'nice guy' . Hmm

Can someone link the Stately home thread if they can please?

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SlittySluttySlots · 06/06/2013 22:03

Can't link as I'm on my phone but it's normally on the first page of the Relationships forum.. you can't miss it!

PigeonFeet · 06/06/2013 22:28

Wow - found it and have only read the OP!
Hits home!

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