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Can I really expect any more at 35 with 3 children??? (long, sorry)

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itsn0tmeitsyou · 28/05/2013 14:22

When I was 19 I had the most intense, romantic, lustful and loving relationship, but it ended when I was 20 primarily because my insecurity meant that I didn?t believe he would never want someone else, and was incredibly jealous and possessive. I was utterly heartbroken, and literally felt chest pain when I cried about it. I could still cry about it if I let myself. I am 35 now.
A year later I met my current partner and we have been together for 14 years. At the time, I didn?t necessarily think it was my ?final? relationship, I didn?t feel the same attraction and certainly not the same intensity, but over time I did love him in a very ?safe? way, and we enjoyed our twenties together and did a lot, lived abroad, and generally, had full lives. It nagged at me in the background that I had ?settled? for this and there was not enough romantic love in the relationship from my side, but he loved me, I felt that strongly, and that felt like enough after the destructiveness of my first relationship. I felt I could not be broken by this relationship.
We now have 3 children, 6, 3, 15m, and life is a struggle, in terms of coping with the demands of the children (number 3 is a difficult one), financially (I am a sahm), and our time together is limited (he is retraining and studying for professional exams most evenings, and has been for 4 years now), and not particularly good quality. We are both so tired as our children sleep poorly that sex is pretty much off the agenda, and has been for years. He still wants to, sometimes, but I simply don?t feel attracted to him anymore, and I am fairly convinced he is no longer attracted to me. Since the basis of our relationship was that I at least felt that he loved me and needed me, his ?switching off? of that has caused me to feel the relationship has nothing left anymore.
But we have three children and I can?t bear the idea of them having to deal with us breaking up.
Then I consider my own life, and feel devastated that I will never feel wanted again, or feel real lust (that I can act on) again. I feel that time is ticking on, but at 35 I know that I am still young(ish) and it might be possible to find love. But then I think that is just not going to happen. I was voluptuous before I had children, now I am just fat. I have 3 young children. I am a sahm and sacrificed my career for that, which I would do again to be with my children, but it has restricted my options massively. We are not married, so I have no idea how that works in terms of financial support, though I trust that he would not let me down in that regard. Do men really want someone with all that, even if I did lose weight and find some confidence?? Am I better just putting up with this life? When I met him I was a graduate from a top university, with a successful job, and was pretty attractive. I feel like my life has disappeared down the drain, and there?s no way back.
I had a dream last night that someone wanted to hold my hand. When I think about that, I feel a real physical sensation and pull on my loins (just for hand-holding, for christ?s sake) and as a result have been weeping all day?

Thank you for reading this far, any advice appreciated.

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musickeepsmesane · 31/05/2013 09:32

At its most simplistic - put the work in to see if you can get a spark going. You seem willing to try that. However, there is no guarantee there will be a spark. That is probably when you need to decide what to do, when you have both tried and nothing has changed. I think a lot of people have sexless relationships that suit them. You don't seem to be one of those people. Can you do it? Don't settle for a life that others find acceptable. Settle for a life you find acceptable. As for the fireworks, firework displays are spectacular and shortlived. If you find yourself sexually attracted to someone else (this may never happen either) I can guarantee you that after a while the initial attraction will become less intense and real life kicks in again...........

quietlysuggests · 31/05/2013 12:37

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itsn0tmeitsyou · 01/06/2013 19:58

thanks, quietlysuggests - 'ordinary trouble', I like that :)

I was at a family venue today, and whilst there decided to try to deliberately watch other couples with young children interacting, and I have to say, I wasn't envious of any of them ... so I think you're probably right. We're all in trouble... sigh... Maybe swingers have got the right idea... Grin

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WhiteBirdBlueSky · 02/06/2013 00:40

If you had a 'golden patch' that led to a third child, and he's not actively mean to you, and you don't actually hate him, then that's not a too bad a position to be in.

I have had relationships where there was a fantastic physical spark at the beginning and it has faded. So I just because it was once there doesn't mean that's what you'll get long term.

So I wouldn't leave if that's what you're looking for.

DistanceCall · 02/06/2013 02:00

If you've never felt desire for him from the start, I don't think you ever will. You settled and now you're paying for it.

Sorry. I don't think that's what you wanted to hear. But I do think that getting your own life back on track (getting a job, getting fit, etc.) is the first step towards being more fulfilled.

Living like this is not fair on you or your husband (or your children).

itsn0tmeitsyou · 02/06/2013 12:31

DistanceCall Your first point is right, and whilst it may not be what I want to hear, I know it deep down but I am trying to decide if it's too high a price. I agree that getting fit would be a step towards getting my life back on track, but there is nothing 'off-track' about staying at home for a few years while my children are babies and looking after them rather than paying someone else to. I can get back to work when I and they are ready for that, and this post is simply about sexual attraction and desire, not the self-esteem you may or may not find at work.

WhiteBirdBlueSky I agree with your first point. It's not a bad position. It's not perfect, but I don't expect perfection. Your second point is what I wanted to know, and that's really useful information.

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itsn0tmeitsyou · 02/06/2013 12:37

p.s. DistanceCall I know you're not the only person to say this, you're just the last, and I am getting a bit sensitive about people suggesting being a sahm is a bit useless.

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WhiteBirdBlueSky · 02/06/2013 13:16

I would happily accept that there's not going to be fireworks in a long term relationship. However I did live a little before I settled down. I think if I hadn't I would have a nagging sense that life had passed me by.

Thing is, realistically, are you going to recapture that lost youth now that you have three DCs?

DistanceCall · 02/06/2013 13:37

I'm not saying that being a sahm is useless, not at all. But I do think that self-esteem plays a crucial role in desire (whether for your husband - which I think it unlikely, honestly -or for anyone else). If you don't feel good about yourself, you can't feel good about anyone else.

You are not happy with your current life. I don't think your relationship with your husband will improve because there really is no basis. If you want to maintain the status quo for a few more years, remaining a sahm, you might want to look into things that make you feel better about yourself - volunteering, an OU course, exercise, a part-time job, a book club.

DistanceCall · 02/06/2013 13:40

That said, I think divorcing is easier when children are younger and don't really notice much.

wonderingagain · 02/06/2013 15:02

You are going through the hardest stage regarding children, his studying and lack of money is making it harder. Lack of libido is just a side effect of the stress ypu are under.

But you should separate these matters from your worries about his place in your life. He is the Daddy, no denying it and he will be part of your life whether you stay together or not.

I think you should trust your instinct and really explore whether you want to grow old with this man, go on retirement holidays, share Christmas with your grandchildren, look after when he is infirm. And also consider whether you would want anyone else to take his, or your place in that future.

itsn0tmeitsyou · 02/06/2013 16:11

DistanceCall you're right, sorry I was blowing off a bit of steam earlier and thought when I was out after I posted that that it was a bit of an overreaction. I want to be with my children at the moment, but don't envisage that being my life much beyond my youngest passing his second birthday. I agree that once the children are slightly older, having a job will give me more self-esteem, and if DP and I were no longer together it would be crucial for all sorts of reasons.

As someone said earlier in the thread, there're lots of people who are content to settle for sexless relationships, and it's not really relevant, what's relevant is whether I am happy to settle for that. I really don't know the answer to that at the moment, and think that perhaps if it becomes clear to me that an awful lot of people who are in relationships that have gone on for more than 10-15 years, with children, feel that their sex life is either non-existent or pretty humdrum too, then expecting much more will feel fairly unrealistic, and I'll feel better about it all generally. I think I'll start a new thread about sex. Grin

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