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New partner needing 'time'

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confusedisitme · 19/05/2013 15:54

I've recently started seeing someone - it's been under a month officially but we were very close before that for about 6 months.

He seems to come across as quite intense in his 'feelings' - always saying things like how he's broken, doesn't wan to lose me (said in that breathless, urgent way you'd imagine someone to say it in a cheesy american movie!) and the first week we were together he kept saying how strong his feelings were, felt like we'd been together a lot longer and all that stuff.

However, because he'd recently split up with someone and because of the fact I don't get on with a family member of his (I knew this family member before I knew him and we've never got along), he's been reluctant to tell anyone he's seeing me - he wanted to wait until the summer and then he felt like he'd be able to tell his close family members (including this person that hates me).
This caused issues between us, because I felt like we couldn't go out anywhere - he'd come and visit me at home, stay over etc and we have been out a few times out of town, but I want to just be able to go to the local restaurant or something in town and not worry that he'll be looking over his shoulder. He says I want everything 'now' and it's not possible...so because of this we argue - not full on rows, but niggly sort of things where usually one of us says we can't cope with it, and it's all up in the air again.

We were due to go out last night together, in town for a meal.

It'd been planned for 2 weeks, I had got my mum to have my three children overnight so we could go out (which meant me buying air beds and a travel cot so they could sleep at her house), and then Friday morning I had asked him to come over that night because we had been arguing and I wanted to try and fix us before I could go out with him the next night...eventually he agreed, we had a slight niggle but the rest of the night was fine, he said he couldn't lose me, the next morning he was very loving and we left on a good note - although he hadn't gone to sleep when I told him to that night, instead he kept trying it on for 90 minutes so we ended up only having about 4 hours' sleep :(

It got to 5pm on Saturday, the kids had already gone to my mum's and he text saying he was very tired, hadn't had a chance to sleep and would have to stay home - then didn't seem to understand why I was pissed off. I asked him to stick to the arrangements, he said he needed sleep and it spiralled into this massive argument and him refusing to even come over and see me, but stay in the house with me and not go out...which annoyed me further.

Eventually at 9pm he agreed to come over but sleep on the sofa, but said it would be finished for good if I "made him" come over...so he turned up, was very cold (I'd hoped I could win him round a bit but it didn't happen) and eventually left again after saying he couldn't handle this, and I should've let him stay at home.

He's now saying we need to "work on positive texts and see how we go" - we can't see each other now until the weekend after next as we both have commitments, so he wants me to basically just send him chatty, random texts through the next couple of weeks, effectively covering up how hurt I am and not talking about 'us' until he decides whether he misses me and wants to try again or not.

I understand that all this arguing has got him down; it has me too, but on Friday night he said he can't lose me with that sense of urgency and passion that made it seem like he loved me...then last night he said his feelings had significantly reduced over the past week or so and he wants to se if he can get them back - to me, I don't want to wait around to see if his feelings reappear; if they went in the first place (mine haven't, despite the arguing) then it feels like I'd be losing the self respect I still have left by taking him back if he decided he wanted to.

Does that make sense at all?

Apologies for the essay...I suppose I'm just wondering if he's being unreasonable in what he's asking of me now, or I am.

PS - he did text me last night saying that he can't see how he can be with me, but the thought of not being with me hurts him like crazy; and that he just needs a bit of space from the arguing, and just positive texting for a week or so, and see if it helps his feelings reappear.

OP posts:
TittyBojangles · 20/05/2013 20:47

I cannot believe I have just read this whole thread. Shock Can't really add anything useful and it wouldn't matter if I did, you are intent on perpetuating this drama! Not sure who I feel most sorry for.

scottishmummy · 20/05/2013 20:58

oh keep up op,you've got enough to do with minutiae of he said this that
I am sniggering at the Frasier crane types and their madeupics diagnostic theories
but please don't get embroiled in that hoo haw

handcream · 20/05/2013 21:02

You sound really immature and young! Could you get a grip and start concentrating on your children as opposed to this nonsense!

Rhiana1979 · 20/05/2013 21:03

Wow...just wow.

KatieScarlett2833 · 20/05/2013 21:06

Don't judge me, it's been a very slow day Grin

forumdonkey · 20/05/2013 21:17

Imagine if there was a janny baby Grin Next weeks thread?

Crunchymunchyhoneycakes · 20/05/2013 21:18

Little twin jannies surely?

Ponyphysio · 20/05/2013 21:48

Johnny & Janey Janny?

Ponyphysio · 20/05/2013 21:50

Still think the OP is a lunatic, but I'm glad I found out how the lost licence thing turned out!!

Fairylea · 20/05/2013 22:14

Waits for op to come back and tell us he was so caring and loving and is such a messed up poor soul so they had passionate and caring sex.....

Hashtagwhatever · 20/05/2013 22:20

Fuck my life...

Cannot stand it when somebody asks advice just for the sake of it.

forumdonkey · 20/05/2013 22:46

she'll be busy with his sherbet dibdab Wink Wink Grin

SweetSeraphim · 20/05/2013 22:49

forumdonkey GrinGrin

forumdonkey · 20/05/2013 23:32

I can see the allure of the tuck shop janny - to all you doubting peeps maybe this little tale of OP's love may make you see the errors of your ways.

May love prevail - An Ode to the Tuck Shop Janny Man

Mr Cadbury and Miss Rowntree met on a Double Decker, it was After Eight.
She was from Quality Street, he was from Fisherman?s Friend. On the way they stopped at a Yorkie Bar, he had a Rum and Butter, she had a Wine Gum. He asked her name, ?Polo, I?m the one with the hole? she said. ?I?m the one with the nuts,? he thought! Then he touched her Milky Way.

They checked into a hotel, and went straight to the bedroom. Mr Cadbury turned out the light for a bit of Black Magic. It wasn?t long before he slipped his hand into her Snickers and felt her Cream Egg. He fondled her Flap Jacks then he showed her his Curly Wurly and Tic Tacs. Miss Rowntree wasn?t keen to have any Jelly Babies so she let him take a trip down Bourneville Boulevard via her Party Ring.

He was quite pleased as he always fancied a Finger of Fudge. It was a magic moment as she let out a scream of Turkish Delight. When he pulled out, his fun size Mars Bar felt a bit Crunchie. She wanted more, but he needed Time Out, however, he noticed her Pink Wafers looked very appetizing. He did a Twirl, had a Picnic in her Sherbet Dip and finished off by giving her a Gob Stopper! Unfortunately, Mr Cadbury then had to go home to his wife, Caramel.

Sadly he was soon to discover he had VD. It turned out Miss Rowntree had been with Bertie Basset who apparently had Allsorts!!!

AndTheBandPlayedOn · 21/05/2013 01:12

forumdonkey, that is so funny, thanks for a hearty laugh.

Confused, I hope you have a nice evening without too much prevaricating, double-negative, flip-flopping, inside-out, no means yes- but no it doesn't really, whose script do we follow tonight-mine, no, yours, oh it's the same script never mind. That is unless you want your evening to go that way, then perhaps you have a pretty good chance of getting what you want after all.

SquinkiesRule · 21/05/2013 02:01

People who try to tell you how complicated they are, rarely are complicated at all, they are usually just twats.

joblot · 21/05/2013 08:22

How did it go op?

confusedisitme · 21/05/2013 09:37

Came round, had a good bit of talking where he listened to my point of view, seemed to understand, said that when he'd said the thing about getting bored he hadn't meant bored of being in a relationship, but the relationship becoming boring (such as with an ex of his who after a while only wanted to watch the tv and never spoke to him while 'her' programmes were on). I sort of got what he meant.

He was going to leave at 10pm, I asked him to stay but said we 100% wouldn't be having sex, he did stick to it and just cuddled up but did keep saying how turned on he was but "I'm not going to try anything because I want you to see I'm serious about a relationship".

Erm...said his feelings had never actually diminished, but then suddenly decided to pipe up with "you're going to have to marry me you know" (lol exactly as someone up thread had said they were expecting) - he's said that before so I told him not to say things he doesn't mean, and can't back up with actions, he kept saying it and asking me to just say yes...but then I mentioned the fact no one knows about us and he said he wants to make sure we aren't arguing every time we see each other first. This conversation was a bit niggly, as I was pissed off he was saying stuff about marriage when clearly he didn't mean it (imo)...he said he did mean it and that it was to prove his commitment to me long term :/

So, yeah. It went well (ish), I stuck to my thing of not having sex, he says he wants to come around again Thursday.

Trouble is, he DID sound and look convincing.

OP posts:
oldwomaninashoe · 21/05/2013 09:44

I've just read all 20 pages of this and am very confused myself, why post asking for advice when you have chosen your own course?

Seriously the whole thing sounds like you are behaving like a couple of immature teenagers, and the intensity of it all from both sides is very alarming.

confusedisitme · 21/05/2013 09:51

Because when I first posted I was convinced I was totally in the right, he was in the wrong and was just manipulating me/lying to me.

Then I started posting about my behaviour and started to think he may have been genuine, then because of the way I had been, got very confused/couldn't handle it.

I don't think there are many people who wouldn't have acted the same way he did when confronted with someone acting the way I was.

That's all.

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KatieScarlett2833 · 21/05/2013 09:56

Christ he will say anything to get a shag. Maybe on Thursday he will propose with a ring from Liz Duke Smile

confusedisitme · 21/05/2013 10:09

Seriously?!

But it didn't work, he didn't get one and he's still saying he wants to come round on Thursday.

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Chubfuddler · 21/05/2013 10:18

Oh brilliant. Yes definitely get engaged to the janitor after six weeks of bunk ups. What could possibly go wrong?

confusedisitme · 21/05/2013 10:23

I didn't get engaged.

I told him to stop being a dick, and that I wanted things done properly and not just to show his commitment - and not so soon either.

He apologised but said he had been trying t prove he was genuine.

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KatieScarlett2833 · 21/05/2013 10:25

Love, he's hoping for a shag on Thursday and is girding his loins to make even more declarations of happy ever after to get it. He clearly enjoys a challenge.
How about insisting he takes you to meet his family on Thursday? After all you are going to be his new wife?

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