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P being unfaithful

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TwoSugarsWithLotsOfMilk · 05/05/2013 10:53

Have NC'd as my usual moniker is very telling.

Backstory: I moved in with MIL and FIL because of DP's work. We moved when DS was 2 months old. My family are nowhere near, not many friends even after 18 months of being here. Also a language barrier as most people here speak [as a primary] a language I don't know, but am learning. They're happy with English, but it's still awkward. I had PND badly, really suffered with it but am out of the woods now.

In the past I have found sexually explicit texts/e-mails/Facebook messages from DP to a man, who is a friend from school days. I was understandably distraught, but was assured it wouldn't happen again and that he was just trying to deal with the strain of being a new parent and being in a new job and having to deal with my PND. He also assured me that he was not gay, and that it was "all talk and no action" if you get my drift? He cut contact with this person voluntarily.

About 5 months after this happened, I accidentally saw a Facebook conversation with a girl, as our Google Chrome opens the last viewed page. In it, there were some fairly sexually explicit messages, mostly from her but some from him.

She also was incredibly cruel about me, claiming that I was using my PND as an excuse to laze about and that a year after the birth of my child is too long to be clinging to my excess weight. Although DP stood up for me in that instance, I couldn't ignore the messages. We began a trial separation and I eventually accepted him back after a fortnight of him trying his utmost to make things right between us.

Since then, we've been closer than ever, our DS has grown and I've never felt more happy. Our sexlife was back on track and it felt like a whole new relationship.

Fast forward another 7 months to today. He's been texting his very close friend [S] a lot, because she lives far away and so we only see her sporadically. They are very close, have been friends since they were little, and is considered an integral part of our friendship circle. They had a brief fling about 9 years ago, when they were in their teens, but nothing ever came of it and DP was upfront and honest about there being no feelings involved, and that it was just sex and "not very good sex at that" [his words].

His phone vibrates and because I'm closest, I check. It's from S and it is filthy. I go and check his previous contact with S only to find around a days worth of messages, but all the messages have turned deeply sexual.

DP - "You can tie me to your bed and do anything you like xxx"
DP - "TwoSugars is having a good week - we've had sex three times but I still want more can you come and finish me off"
DP - "Sat here wanking to porn while TwoSugars is asleep, wish you were here"

I've confronted him, and he has pulled his usual sadface and is there looking miserable. I have tried to keep my cool and have told him exactly how disappointed I am, that I thought we were OK and that I've never been so disgusted. Because she's such a close friend I now have to wonder what has been going on, whether this is new or whether it's been going on longer because he's known to delete messages from his phone as he likes "a tidy inbox".

For various reasons regarding money, my family, his family and commitments, I cannot just up and leave, either with DS or without him. I have no idea what I am meant to do about this. I'm so ashamed of myself. I thought we were OK.

I'm so sorry it's long, but I just didn't want to dripfeed. I mean it when I say that I cannot leave, even as a break. What do I do?

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geologygirl · 06/05/2013 10:21

Stop discussing things with them! Do not listen to a single word they say about anything. They are trying to control and manipulate you. Do not agree on anything either. Wouldn't suprise me if you went off to work one day, left your ds with him...and by the time you return they refuse you back in or have left the house entirely!

Say nothing. Get some bits together and go with your DS. Go to the police station if necessary. They can call womens aid for you, who can help with some emergency accommodation.

Freddiemisagreatshag · 06/05/2013 10:25

There's a saying I heard on here goes something like just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

They are,out to get you and they will say and do anything to pressure you. Switch off to what theyre saying it is bullshit.

IneedAsockamnesty · 06/05/2013 10:26

Go for a walk and make the call. Ask to be found a bed say you have left.

You can request out of Wales,

A birth cert is none essential anybody can pay a tenner and get a copy including you no point in taking it to prevent them having it as they can get a copy very quickly any way they are public record.

Does your dc have a red book? That has NHs number and is quite important. Where does the cb get paid? Joint or single account because if its joint you can change that but it can be done after you go just take as much out of the account as you can to tide you over.

Any public record document don't bother finding because you can get those copied.

You need your personal paperwork bank stuff anything you can't do without,any medications your passport dc's fav teddy or toy as many layers of underware you can fit on without being obvious

IneedAsockamnesty · 06/05/2013 10:31

Oh and just for the record they are trying to push you into reacting in a way they can then use against you.

Push push push until you explode they will then call the police and have you removed so they can keep your son by claiming your the one whose abusive amd dangerious.the only way you can fight this is by doing nothing at all that could be considered hysterical or dramatic or volitile or angry.

They can do none of this if you are not there.

StuntGirl · 06/05/2013 10:37

Everything pixie said!

You and your son are worth more than this life twosugars.

b4bunnies · 06/05/2013 10:42

I haven't read all of pixie's advice but for goodness sake, if it involves staying calm and getting out of there, do it.

Wannabestepfordwife · 06/05/2013 10:44

Op it sounds like they are holding you against your will in a very controlling manipulative environment you need to get out.

I don't want to sound alarmist but I think you should pm a poster you trust your address so if you stop coming on here at regular intervals we can inform the police of what's happening. In this situation it's not above the realms of possibility your ex and his family may take your form of communication (phone/email)

Zorra · 06/05/2013 11:28

They sound horrendous, please listen to all the advice here. I'm in north Wales, PM me if there's any way I can help x

TwoSugarsWithLotsOfMilk · 06/05/2013 11:56

I'm packed. Out with P on own, going to meet my mum as its bank hol. Gonna get her to help me take ds and then ring women's aid. I hate myself for doing this but it needs to be done.

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Tabliope · 06/05/2013 12:20

Don't hate yourself. You've done nothing wrong. We're all telling you that. I wouldn't be out without your DS. I'm sorry, I'm just saying. I don't want to freak you out but I'd be thinking will he be there when we get back. I'd calm the situation down for a day or two as if they've won you round then make a break when their guard is down. What the others have said is correct. They will push you until you do something irrational then they can say she's not a fit mother. My ex tried it with me. After that one incident though when he threatened to get him out the country behind my back and that he'd tell SS I was an unfit mother I packed a bag quickly, left the house and phoned for a taxi to take me back to my parents who lived 300 miles away at the time. Luckily I had the cash for it. Him and his family seem to have more mental power over you which is worrying. Get to the police now, please. Just get out. I really fear this is not going well.

IneedAsockamnesty · 06/05/2013 12:23

Have you left your son with them to go visiting your mum who you hardly see so obviously also hardly sees her grandson?

TwoSugarsWithLotsOfMilk · 06/05/2013 16:18

Oh nonono he's with me please don't think I've left him!!

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TwoSugarsWithLotsOfMilk · 06/05/2013 16:20

I'm with my mother on way back. Tomorrow she'll help me with WA etc. Will keep people updated.

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WhiteBirdBlueSky · 06/05/2013 16:40

That sounds great. Thanks

IneedAsockamnesty · 06/05/2013 16:49

If your mums with you can she not put your belongings in her car ( if she has one) and walk out the door with you?

Even if you get everything you need with your mum around to witness they can lie about anything you have done and accuse you of anything and they are not going to bully you with her there.

Just walk out the door with her you can use her phone to call WA you do not have to be near the area you are fleeing to use them you can call from anywhere. You don't need to be found a refuge bed in your home area its better to be well away.

If WA for what ever reason can't find you a bed then PM me and I will find you one.

Ad with your mum there she can talk for you don't tell the, where you are going or anything just that you will be in touch.and leave it at that.

TwoSugarsWithLotsOfMilk · 06/05/2013 17:14

Mum met us in place halfway between the two locations. Was beach so I packed PLENTY under the guise of "what if he goes in the ocean?". Got clothes for both, nappies, my BC, wet wipes, phone charger, his favourite toys and a few of my books. We're now at her house, way out of P's reach.

What do I do with regard to location? For the last two years it's been both my and DS's life, so do I try and find a place near where I was? Or do I start afresh halfway between the two places? Or do I stay around my mothers?

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Freddiemisagreatshag · 06/05/2013 17:15

I am so so relieved to read this update.

TwoSugarsWithLotsOfMilk · 06/05/2013 17:18

Or do I save up, get a passport and leave for another flamin' country!

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YoniMeKateMumsnet · 06/05/2013 17:33

Hi all,

We're going to move this thread to relationships, at the request of the OP.

StanleyLambchop · 06/05/2013 17:33

Glad you are safely away! For now I would not worry about the location. Just give yourself some breathing space. Relax and be with your son. You can start planning your new life tomorrow.

DuchessFanny · 06/05/2013 17:51

Never been so relieved to read an update ! I'd suggest staying near your mothers .. More support for if/when you may need it !
Well done and good luck !!!

SugarPasteGreyhound · 06/05/2013 18:19

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InLoveWithDavidTennant · 06/05/2013 18:28

thank you for updating (was worried) and so so glad you are getting away.

i would suggest staying near your mum too for the extra support as you say you have no one around.

i am shocked... and also not shocked iyswim about them keeping you there against your will. apalling behaviour.

remember to take important paperwork, documents etc... everything else is replacable

im in wales too (though im in the city) i can only imagine what its like where you are. i know of many places where the community tend to stick together no matter what and only talk in the native language. it must be so hard Sad

IneedAsockamnesty · 06/05/2013 20:23

Is your mum offering to put you up?

From a location point of view I would look for somewhere near your mums but not the same town,it will be harder for them to find you that way.

Oh and good move, your away from them now and have removed all the power they had.im will eat my hat if your health does not start to improve.

IneedAsockamnesty · 06/05/2013 20:25

Oh and remember when you are settled he has to find you first before he can do anything. Don't contact him do not tell him where you are and don't make it easy for him.