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I have seriously fucked up and need some help to get back on track

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Madeamassivemistake · 25/03/2013 10:41

Over January I spent five weeks in a drug and alcohol addiction treatment centre. The treatment I received was excellent and I have been clean and sober since (got my three month 'chip' a few days ago).

I met a man there whom I felt a very strong attraction to. He is married. Nothing happened between us at the centre, there was no disclosure of any feelings, but the chemistry between us must have been obvious to others I think as the staff voiced concerns about us seeming 'too close'.

He left treatment a couple of weeks before I did, and immediately sent me a text saying that he wished we had met fifteen years ago (which I think is roughly how long he's been married). The text completely did my head in, and I sent back an angry response along the lines of, 'yes, ok, there is an attraction between us but you are married and this is not appropriate'. I informed staff that he had sent this text which led to a discussion in group about relationship issues (so far, so managing to do the right thing).

Unfortunately someone at the centre broke my confidentiality and let him know that I had discussed his text with the staff as part of my treatment. He then texted me again, unhappy that I had done this which caused a row between us that I found very upsetting. He said that he thought it best we have no more contact.

I then left treatment and sent an e-mail apologising for how things had turned out and saying it was a shame we couldn't keep in touch considering how well we had got on (a huge error on my part, I know). He wrote back saying he valued my friendship and wanted to keep in contact and had only been worried about how the conflict between us had been affecting me. I then wrote back (and yes I do know how wrong this was) letting him know when I would be in the area and asking if he fancied meeting up? He wrote back saying he was unsure if he would be available but that he would let me know.

At this point I came to my senses and faced up to how innapropriate this contact between us was. I discussed things with my peers in recovery who encouraged me to have no more contact with him. He didn't contact me either and we didn't speak for a month.

I then very recently went back to the rehab centre for follow up care (which is around the area he lives). One of the other patients told me this guy was in a hotel room alone on business and was feeling isolated. All my resolve went out of the window and I texted him again. We exchanged a few pleasantries and I asked again if he fancied meeting? He suggested a place and then I didn't hear from him again. I texted asking what was wrong and he said he thought it best 'we take a rain check'.

I have since texted and e-mailed saying I don't understand - I know he's married and that we can't have a relationship, but he'd said he wanted to be friends. I've asked that if he cares at all, that he be honest with me about whether or not he wants to be in touch so I know where I am. All I've had is complete silence. Looking back he's always been very unreliable - promising to ring and then not e.t.c. It has always been me who has initiated contact.

I know how wrong I've been trying to pursue any sort of friendship/relationship with this bloke. But I feel distraught. I cannot understand why he is completely ignoring me after everything he said. I thought he cared about me. I feel stupid, humiliated, and terrible about myself for having violated my moral code. I feel very weak and as though I can't quite bounce back.

I have ceased any attempts to make contact and will not do so again. But what do I do with these feelings that are left over? I just feel so terrible Sad Why can't men just be honest about their feelings and intentions? Why is that so fucking hard? All he has to say is that he's changed his mind and doesn't think being in touch is in either of our best interests. Why has he just left me hanging like this?

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LulaPalooza · 25/03/2013 14:04

Made you have a superfluous "I think" at the end of your last post, lovely.

As others have said, you may not be in in-patient treatment but you are in recovery.

Be good to yourself.
Put your recovery first.

One thing that people coming out of treatment don't appreciate is how utterly shocking and harsh real feelings are going to be, because for years they have been numbing those feelings with drugs or alcohol. You are having to learn coping mechanisms from new, or at the very least to re-learn them. It's painful, it's raw and it's fucking difficult.

But you have support around you and you can do it. You really, really can.

Good luck x

Charbon · 25/03/2013 14:11

Yes she is completely right.

Check your responses about this man's behaviour though and your beliefs about his marriage. If you take out the context of your illnesses, what we have here is a straightforward story of a man in a long marriage who got a bit of a buzz from a new woman who showed some interest in him. That's intoxicating for anyone, but it means nothing. He doesn't cognitively want an affair but he hasn't until recently entirely wanted to give up on the chance of being persuaded to change his mind. But he's always wanted you to take responsibility for that, to assuage his guilt. That situation is extremely commonplace, especially in men who are basically content in their marriages.

springyhiphop · 25/03/2013 20:54

I am just so embarrassed. My pride has taken a real knock (I have massive abandonment/rejection issues) and to know that I chased someone like that makes me feel very low. It's just all really humiliating

I know how you feel, because I can feel the same absolutely crushing embarrassment/shame around stuff like this. But let's get it into perspective: how did you feel about some guy who was interested in you in the past but you didn't taken it further. Did you think he was a loser, a shoddy embarrassment akin to having his willy hanging out? No (or at least I hope not!) - he was just a guy who gave it a go and, as it happens, you weren't interested. Not his fault, or yours. A compliment, if anything, and just one of those things.

You at least have the assurance that the married guy found you the biz (even if both of you are looking at the whole thing through recovery-fogged glasses) and it could be argued that wrong time, wrong place etc. Whatever, I'd say your dignity is intact on this.

CoalDustWoman · 25/03/2013 21:01

What step are you on, made?

Madeamassivemistake · 25/03/2013 22:21

Thanks Springy, that was nice of you to say.

I'm just completing my step 4 CoalDust. Have done some inventory work around this guy with my sponsor already but perhaps there's more can be looked into.

Have had a very emotional day today. Lots of crying. But I had a chat on the phone to another woman with solid recovery who I trust and chewed it all out with her. And then I begged a lift to a meeting this evening which I found really helpful. Caught up with a woman I know from the fellowship who I haven't seen since I came out of treatment so that was really nice. Have also written out a gratitude list this evening (as directed by sponsor) and although I find them a bit contrived and cheesy, it has helped I think.

This is what I want to be doing - getting my head back on recovery and getting my focus back. I haven't come this far to be spooning it now.

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springyhiphop · 26/03/2013 00:12

gratitude lists rock imo. Not cheesey in the least. Takes a while to get into it but my goodness there's stuff to be grateful for. That you live in a country that has treatment facilities for example. Etc!

Madeamassivemistake · 26/03/2013 10:31

Hello everybody, am feeling a little better today. Have some energy back (have been ill with a stinking cold too over the past few days so that hasn't helped I think) and a plan to have a big wardrobe clear out, which is something I enjoy, perversely.

However I phoned my sponsor this morning and shared that I was in a real state yesterday about this man. Her response was, "What, still??" And my sponsor is a very empathic woman who is generally extremely supportive.

And so you can see why I'm reluctant to share this with people in real life. They don't want to hear it. They think I should have bounced back by now. Which I should, I know.

It's like co-dependency and obsessive patterns around sex and relationships are the most shameful thing of all for women to have. Even drug addicts and alcoholics cringe in the face of it. Better to be a bloody glue sniffer than... god forbid... needy.

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springyhippychick · 26/03/2013 12:32

Glad you're feeling better Made Smile

when did all of this happen btw?

Madeamassivemistake · 26/03/2013 15:27

I was at follow up care just over a week ago. It was last Monday that we were supposed to meet, but didn't.

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springyhippychick · 26/03/2013 19:34

i don't get your sponsor's response tbh. If this is causing you distress then it just is. Are you having therapy? It's the sort of thing one would bash out in therapy.

Partridge · 26/03/2013 19:44

Can you go to an slaa meeting? I've been there - although I was in recovery I was still using through love addiction and it was just as hideous as all the others. And it took me down all the same dark paths.

It sounds like you know what to do.

Madeamassivemistake · 27/03/2013 16:52

Would really like to try slaa Partridge but the nearest meetings to me are in a city that's too far away. I met some women that did slaa at the meetings I went to in treatment. I could really relate to a lot of what they were saying.

In another update, he phoned me today. I was coming home from a meeting with someone from the fellowship and my phone rang. Because I have deleted his contact details it just came up as a number and I answered without thinking. He said it was him and I said it wasn't a good time to talk, that I would call back, and I put the phone down.

I'm not going to call back. But it's unsettled me again just as I was starting to feel stronger. I have no idea what he wants. Mind games eh.

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Partridge · 28/03/2013 21:57

He is in recovery too and thus subject to all the same Demons as you are. Don't second guess what he wanted (a fix for his slaa maybe?) it's not important. You aren't starcrossed lovers and I think you know that - you are two people in the grip of addiction. Try to see it for what it is.

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