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I literally can't cope with this situation with my MIL ...

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arrrghhhh · 16/03/2013 12:38

I don't really know what I expect in the way of advice, but here goes. . .

This situation has been going on for a few years. I feel trapped and depressed about it.

Basically, my MIL is (I believe) mentally unstable and interferes constantly. My partner is spineless and at ties does stand up for me and 'our' family, at times lets her get on with it and says he "won't get involved", and at other times actually CLEARLY sides with MIL and goes against me and joins in with her bullying manipulative ways. To be honest, which one of these options he follows depends on what best suits him at the time. This issue, amongst other issues between us means our relationship which could barely be called that, is hanging by a thread / stalemate and has been for some time anyway, and i have lost most of my respect for him because of this issue.

MIL openly believes and says that I am a bad mother. When I am not, and there is NO evidence, neither does any health professional think or anyone I know think that I am a "bad mother". She will do this slyly, by making comments etc, but she will also say those words openly.

She is a drama queen. Drinks super strength lager every night and will then text or call hysterically.

My partner has been setting up a new business the past 3 years which only this past year has started to generate reliable income. Before this I worked full time to bridge the gap. MIL has commented that I "care about money more than I care about children"

I am "no good for her son" . She begged him to reconsider us moving in together many years ago.

Every argument me and my partner have she gets involved in it. I certainly don't tell her of these rows, he must do so. But she will start "defending" her son and raising her arms, screaming at me as soon as I walk into her house to collect DS (more on that later). Partner has been working very long hours to set up the business but it was having strain on the family so we agreed he would have one full day off a week. When she heard of this, she said that I was henpecking him and controlling him and what did I want him to do, become a house husband or something ? (erm no just spend time with his family!).

She is hysterical, oftens infers meanings that aren't there, she is over the top with the DCs (we have 2 one is 8 and the other 3) - all over them, over the top smothering affection all the time. I know, I know, you can't give a child too much affection, but I mean she is hugging and squeezing and shrieking and coo-ing even when they are running away trying to play. If some aqaintance makes a passing remark, like the other day an little old lady said about DS "oh you are too big to be in a buggy, you are a big boy", MIL went MAD and started telling the woman off Shock.

She believes that because I am not like her, I'm more private in my affections and I'm not over the top when it comes to the DC, then I am - quote - "not bonding with DS" (he is 3!!! and bonded with him from birth ffs!) and that I "don't communicate properly" with my children!

I find her stressful when she is being "nice" and horrendously depressing when she is being difficult.

I would honestly be thankful never to have to speak to her again. However the issue is childcare. I still work part time although I have cut my hours down - I have to. Financially we need my wage it's as simple as that. I don't love my work, it's OK enjoy parts, hate other parts.

I work 9-2 Monday to Fri. DD at school and DS has to go to MIL 3 of these days despite me having to run around like a headless chicken going out of my way to drop him off and pick him up at her house 30 mins away, because my partner 'doesn't believe in childminders' says 'no way' to the DC having a childminder, even a very professional registered CM lady I've known for years who lives in same street!

MIL has DS 3-4 days a week whilst I work (just 9-2 hours though). She does not discipline him at all. Ignores anything me or P have asked her to do / not to do with DS (for example no hard lollipops, still feel he is too young - she just ignores and gives DS them anyway Angry) . If DS is having a tantrum, she cannot cope - she starts crying herself!!! and gets hysterical at the slightest things, escalating DS behaviour. Threatens but does not follow through. I believe her mad behaviour is affecting DS and I really worry about this.

However P still will not agree to a childminder no matter what. So I am stuck really. It is so strained when I do pick ups.

I asked my partner last week to have words with her about something regarding DS behaviour and what she was doing in regards to it (going off crying when DS has a tantrum). Ie to tell her that it will confuse and upset DS seeing that. He went away to speak to her. About half an hour later she INFORMS me that I will need to make other childcare arrangements as she will not be doing it anymore, because I am "blaming" her for youngest's tantrums (!). Well hallelujah, I'd love to make other arrangements! This is the third time in 2 years she has threatened the "well I am not going to look after children for you then" , stupid childish ploy. She has in the past retracted her statement a few days later. She doesn't seem to get that I would dearly love to use childminder instead of dealing with her drama. But P won't have a childminders, nothing but his own angelic mother (to him). She cannot just decide when to take a little strop and

How do i cope with this until DS is at school at the least. I feel so trapped by it and depressed if I'm honest.

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arrrghhhh · 16/03/2013 19:11

Thanks pussycat x

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badinage · 16/03/2013 19:12

I'm really glad you're going to get legal advice. It will free you.

Being realistic here, life's never going to be a bed of roses while you still have to have contact with your partner because of the kids, but obviously it will be a whole lot better once you're no longer in a relationship or living with him. Your kids are likely to be transformed too.

So the fears about him and MIL being difficult and unpleasant when you end the relationship are rational, but the truth is you can cope with that. You've been in training for it for years, because they are difficult and unpleasant now. It will be much easier to deal with their behaviour though when you no longer have an emotional connection to them. I just know you've made excuses over the years for them and not having to do that will be liberating.

Do you see your partner's invoices and accounts? Is he billing clients for the hours he says he's working? Try to access these so that you know what he earns, but be prepared for a few surprises. I doubt very much that he is working all these hours.

BakingWithToddler · 16/03/2013 19:26

On a practical level, you need to sort out professional childcare and minimise contact between your DC and your MIL before you split from H. If you split now, MIL could argue she has a significant ongoing relationship with youngest DC due to being childcare for him, and therefore petition for access of her own, in addition to whatever you agree with H.

Be smart. Disentangle MIL from your DC's lives (and yours) whilst you snoop and find out for sure H's financial situation, how the business is really performing. Log MIL's erratic behaviour and H's hours away from home, and how he interacts with DC when he is at home (bet he doesn't ever do any real parenting, maybe just occasional "fun dad" stuff to undermine you) as logging all this will help when you do split if he and MIL try to get a level of access that is not in your DC's best interests.

badinage · 16/03/2013 19:30

I'm pretty sure that grandparents don't have any contact rights, so any petition from MIL would fail.

colditz · 16/03/2013 19:35

Leave.

Lavenderhoney · 16/03/2013 20:01

Leave. Get legal advice, sort out a childminder and go. It's not up to him. Direct your energy into getting out, not staying and putting up with it. It's not up for discussion by the sound of it.

It's no life is it? For you and your dc? She sounds awful, and crushing your self esteem- what on earth is she poisoning your dc with? And your dp - you say she is your mil, but he is your dp, are you married? He is not a supportive partner and its sounds from what you have written you are better off alone. You don't have to move nearby, anywhere in commuting distance is fine.

You are not a bad mother, why believe this woman?

arrrghhhh · 16/03/2013 20:09

No I have no idea what he earns other than the fact that he pays certain bills and I pay certain bills. I can see the bills being paid that he pays out of the joint account, but the joint account is for monies to be put in by both of us for household bills only. We both have separate bank accounts and I have savings account (not got a great deal in it right enough, but highly doubt he has any savings at all).

I did work full time before because the business was making hardly anything (do believe that cause the guy he works with was saying it to everyone that things were dire, and he is a trustworthy type of guy no reason to lie, known him a long time etc) so i had to. Was difficult and stressful with 2 young DC. Although P did work long hours and did do quite a bit of housework too when i worked full time or else nothing would get done we were both so tired. I cut down to part time when P and his business partner said things were improving and money started coming in. because I was sooo stressed working full time with 2 young DC. Now I do all housework and most child related stuff and work part time which I find ok, not too stressful. he works A LOT of hours but i think he likes it, likes being "free" or whatever Hmm.

He is at work because most times I have called the landline at his shop he answers. Other than this if he doesn't answer and I call his mobile he is at his bloody mothers (can hear her in background, loud as usual).

He is the king of avoidance though and is very cold with me, gives no support, shrugs if I show upset or hurt or worry, dismisses my opinions and feelings often. and I'm well passed being sick of it. I just want out now as it sinks my stomach whenever he shows such disregard for he like he did when I got the kidney results.

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badinage · 16/03/2013 20:13

Yes I should think he hides money and time.

First thing Monday morning get looking for a solicitor who specialises in family law.

arrrghhhh · 16/03/2013 20:14

I don't believe I'm a bad mother, it's actually a wonder I don't believe it after being repeatedly told it for years even during when I had mild PND! I don't believe it, I'm a good enough mother Grin, but it worries me that MIL is so vicious with it and her views may rub off on the DC.

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TheSilveryPussycat · 16/03/2013 20:48

Her views won't rub off if you escape as soon as is feasible. For now, just start thinking about it...

badinage · 16/03/2013 20:53

Yes but if she was going to be vicious, she'd be doing that whether you stayed or went. She's rubbing off on your son now isn't she?

Whereas if you left you'd be able to balance out any influence she or your partner had on the kids. As they get older, kids get quite vocal about strange and unpleasant relatives and if you leave, yours will feel able to tell you about Dad being an arse and granny being nasty. If you stay, they might not feel able to do that so easily.

Grinkly · 16/03/2013 20:54

I was at an adult children of alcoholics meeting and they said that the child of an alcoholic is likely to marry an alcoholic or a workaholic - because that means they are emotionally unavailable to you (which is the situation you are brought up with, hence you are attracted to them).

This might have no relevance to you, OP, but it certainly made me sit up and think!

You need to contact a lawyer and find out how you stand financially and where you would live if on your own, what you would live off, how the DCs would get to school, whether you could continue to work etc and once you have that all understood and sussed out (shouldn't take many days) make your plans.
Your DH and MIL are dysfunctional and you need to live independently of them.

TheSecondComing · 16/03/2013 20:55

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YouWithTheFace · 17/03/2013 10:02

I was a child in a household with this level of emotional drama. My tipping point was when I realised that one got all the HATE and DRAMA whether one did as they wanted or as you yourself wanted. So you might as well do the things (like leave) that are better for you. Also, your children will be a lot happier with some distance between them and the crazies.

Ilovejellysweets · 17/03/2013 10:46

God help you

sue52 · 17/03/2013 20:45

This can't continue. It's bad for you and your children. The relationship seems to have run it's course and there is no hope for a happy life with your partner. If I were you, I would see solicitor.

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