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How much do you let your boyfriend pay for?

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superstarheartbreaker · 10/03/2013 10:53

I have a lovely new boyfriend. He does earn more than me I think but has two kids to support. I am a single mum and claim some benefits/tax credits etc. He has taken me on a few dates and payed for them which I was grateful for and in return I have cooked him a few meals for him and the kids. He is always up for going out which is great but I have to pay for a sitter (5/6 pounds and hour) and then some expenses whilst out.
My card got munched by a cash point last week due to expired card. I have money in the bank. My neraest branch is 45 minutes away so not much chance to withdraw cash.
We went out on Friday night and I payed for half the meal and then had to ask for it back the next day as my card pin number had not arrived as planned. I just feel quite disempowered by the card situation but also a bit confused about suddenly having to juggle finances with someone. On one hand I enjoy him buying me a meal and then I feel that I don't like it. He lent me some money last week which I payed back.
He knew about my card situation and yet still accepted half for the meal when he could have told me to pay him back once my card arrived. I think that its my fault as I should have been more clear. I don't really know when dating how much to expect him to pay for or if we should go half. He wants to visit London for a weekend which is great but I am really struggling for cash atm and I'm wondering how to broach the subject of paying for the trip. I have just told him that I have loved the dates but I cannot afford to go out all the time. I have also told him I don't want to come across like a gold digger but I'm upset about the card situation. If it wasn't for the card situation I wouldn't feel like such a disempowered scab.

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superstarheartbreaker · 10/03/2013 10:55

I think I am also confused as sometimes he will insist on paying and then other times accept half money. I think I'm not sure about the ettiquette.

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kutee · 10/03/2013 10:57

I had a friend who was in this situation and long term it did not work out. It's fine at first but with one earning and not it really can limit a lot.

ImperialBlether · 10/03/2013 13:59

It's a difficult one, isn't it? I can't see why he didn't offer to pay, knowing the trouble you had with your card. When you say you've cooked for "him and the kids" do you mean his children or yours?

If you are paying £5-6 per hour for babysitting, I can see that you wouldn't want to spend a lot when you're out. He, on the other hand, isn't paying for babysitting is he, because his ex is with the children. He needs to acknowledge that.

Personally I think it's really unfair that the partner with the children has to pay for babysitting when they separate, when the one who is absent can go out any time they want. Is there any way your children could stay with your ex when you go out?

I don't think I'd be sure about the etiquette, either, but I know with friends if one can't afford, then the other doesn't insist on going out - so if one friend can afford to go for drinks and the other one wants a meal, you go for drinks.

twentythirteen · 10/03/2013 14:11

I think this is a difficult one to work out, you'll need to talk over what you can expect from each other. Although I earn slightly more than my partner I also have a higher mortgage so he has a lot more spending money than I have. We've actually now moved in together so will be able to sort this out more easliy now, but in the past I would just be very clear about what I would and wouldn't do and then, just so he didn't come to think of me as a scrounger, I would not accept to do things outside of my means. He would still make the occassional grand jesture but it was clear that they were presents that I didn't have to feel uncomfortable about. Good luck OP!

superstarheartbreaker · 10/03/2013 14:17

Thanks all. He really is lovely and I don't want money to be an issue for us. My ex isn't around so no chance of sitting! I do occasioanally get an offer from a friend to have my dd over for a sleepover which helps.
TBH one of the best dates we had was when he came over with a bottle of red, we watched a movie and had lots of fun on the sofa. We also go for a lot of walks (free again) and when we go to London we plan to go to lots of free museums I think I just need to point out that I can't do a five star hotel on my budget!
He hasn't made any grand gestures but it's my bday coming up. I've told him not to go overboard. I talked about it last night and he was so chilled out about it.

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superstarheartbreaker · 10/03/2013 14:18

I meant cooking for his and my kids; I don't mind. I really love cooking for others and it need not be expensive. It's just hard to work out the quantities when used to cooking for two!

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Snowme · 10/03/2013 14:47

I am in a similar situation where my man is working and I am a stay at home Mum on benefits at present.

He insists on paying for everything, but it doesn't feel 'disempowering', because I do see that he is a naturally generous person and understands my financial situation. I would be the same if our roles were reversed.

But also my previous relationship of which he is aware, where my partner made me pay for absolutely everything, charging me mileage for trips to the supermarket, I paid all the bills, house move costs, food, clothing, nights/days out, Internet, wear and tear on his car components, unexpetced journey detours, petrol, presents for his family.. I do mean literally everything.

He didn't pay a penny towards the new baby necessities (and still doesn't offer money towards his two young children). He wouldn't even allow his then toddler to have an ice cream or go on fairground rides unless I paid for them (well I wasn't allowed to buy an nice cream because "you can buy a litre of ice cream for £4 so why pay £2 for a single cone") etc. There were DV issues and the first time he called me a C* in front of everyone else in the queue at a steam rally fair for arguing the case for an ice cream cone for our toddler because it was a day out and it was supposed to be fun, well I never bothered insisting on that again obviously :/ Yet he asked for money for his beer and roll at the event...

He didn't work and I was temping not earning regulalrly, so I obviously accrued utility bill debts during my time with him because I couldn't afford to support the two of us on temping wages, which have followed me in the years since, to the point of my applying for bankruptcy this year.

With my new man, I do always offer to pay for things even if he wont let me, and the early days when we were dating I did insist a few times cinema trips, etc, he didn't know then that my paying for the cinema was using up my last £20 in the bank! But it is a bizarre feeling for someone to be so opposite to what Iused to for so many years.

When my youngest starts school this September Icanhopefully find work and the situation won't continue, I will be in a financial situation to go halves more often.

But I think it's down to his natural character anyway. I certainly think if I was in his situation I'd be the same. I never resented the way my ex made me pay for everything - I never questioned it at the time because I was blindly in love. If my partner is clearly in a poor financial state I wouldn't think twice about paying for them, it's only money.

(I hope) he knows how appreciative and grateful I am, but whilst I do feel humbled by his generosity, I do know that the situation is temporary and that I can eventually pay my own way more often when I start work.

The phrase 'gold digger' is a horrible one and I wouldn't even bring it into a conversation let alone my conscious thoughts. Men aren't stupid and in those scenarios I'm sure they can recognise that quite quickly- any new girlfriend who is constantly asking for designer handbags and shoes or whatever it is gold diggers do, is not going to be a keeper. I expect she would be treated with the same disrespect eventually that she is bestowing on her. You don't need to worry that he is thinking this about younbecause you are not displaying those temdemcies. When you say he sometimes let's you pay, even though he knows its financially difficult for you, it's probably because he understands you need to have that sense of control.

The London trip you plan. Well, the only way forward with that is to be completely straight with him about your finances, I'd say.
Explain that you can contribute to an affordable degree, but it probably won't match his contribution, simply because you're both in very different financial circumstances. There's no other way round this issue really than to talk about it.

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