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Should I try to be friends with my ex?

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SacherTorte93 · 08/03/2013 22:05

Sorry, this is long but I didn't want to dripfeed. I'm pretty new to MN but got really good advice last time I asked on here and hoped you all might be able to help me figure this one out.

So my exP and I broke up about a month ago now. We were together a year before then, long distance, and it was pretty serious. We live in different countries (him Australia, me New Zealand) which are about 3 hours flight apart, he is from the other side of the world (Ireland). We had talked seriously about marriage, children, spending the rest of our lives together, he had met my family and we had just been to Ireland for Christmas for me to meet his. It was a really good Christmas and we were very happy. All was going well, or so I thought.

The entire time we've been together, he has been working out in the mines in Australia, and I've been at university. His job means he works for 28 days straight in the outback, then gets a week off in the city to recuperate. We managed to fit this in pretty well with my uni schedule last year, and so saw each other every 5 weeks or so for a week at a time. It wasn't a perfect situation but it worked for us.

A couple of weeks after we got back from Ireland, with him out at work and me in NZ, he broke up with me out of the blue. His visa is due to run out in the middle of the year, and he has been trying to get sponsored to stay in Australia. His current job had told him they would be able to, then when he got back said they might not be able to after all. This is pretty common - the last job he had, the same thing happened, and he had to move on to a new job.
He called me and told me all this, said he didn't think it was fair to me for us to continue a relationship when for the next six months he's going to be having to run around trying to get a visa sorted whenever he's not working, and that he didn't want us to just end up fighting, he wanted us to be friends and hopefully be together again in the future once I've finished uni and am more free, and he has Australian residency. He was very apologetic, it was a very long phone call and ended with both of us crying, which is very very unlike him and I've never seen before.

What has followed was firstly a week of us still talking, me very hurt, him extremely guilty and both of us miserable. There was another long phonecall, with me drunk, ending in both of us crying again; we were still telling each other 'I love you', still saying we missed and wanted to be with the other, etc. This was initiated by me, I admit that I kind of hoped he'd just panicked when told about the visa stuff and would come running back when he realised what a stupid mistake he'd made. This was compounded by him saying 'I don't know if I did the right thing' etc.

He then suggested two weeks of us not speaking, to try and settle everything, give us time to think and stop torturing ourselves. I was initially pretty resistant because it felt like he was dumping me all over again, but realised it was probably a good idea for me to stop deluding myself that we were still in a relationship and figure out what I really want.

So, now it's been two weeks and I'm still not sure whether I want to be friends with him, or how to go about it. I mean, I do - aside from being my boyfriend he was my best, best friend and I hate not being able to talk to him about things. I just want to be sure he's not taking the piss. A big worry of mine is the idea that he'll be sleeping with other women - which we have discussed, as we're both single. He maintains he's not even thinking about that but hasn't said that he won't. He also said that for him, sex doesn't have to mean anything more. I don't feel that way, so for me, him sleeping with someone else would be a Big Deal, which is why I have no intention of sleeping with anyone else.
It particularly upsets me because I feel like I've been relegated to being a friend while he goes off and puts effort into trying to sleep with other women. It won't be like that - he's not exactly Casanova, I had to chat him up fgs - but in my head, it is, because he is gorgeous and lovely and what woman in her right mind wouldn't be all over him?!

Has anyone else been in a similar situation and can advise? Is it possible to be friends with your ex when you both still want to be together but can't? In six months, he'll either be staying in Australia or have to leave and go back to Ireland/elsewhere, so I have no idea whether we would be able to be in a relationship again in the short term or whether it could be a while. In my heart I want to be friends with him, and for us to maintain a relationship and one day get back together - he is still the man I see myself being with for the rest of my life. But I don't know if I'd be doing something stupid by continuing this relationship, and if it would be more sensible just to end it entirely. Mumsnet, please help!

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OneMoreGo · 08/03/2013 22:30

What you're feeling is absolutely normal at this very early stage, but it isn't friendship so don't dress it up as that or talk about wanting to stay friends when really you are still in love with him and want to have a relationship with him. Call it what it is, and it makes the whole situation easier to see and understand.

So you want to be with him, but he doesn't want to be with you. I'm going to be blunt and suggest he's already met someone else, even if they haven't hooked up yet. If he was really, truly mad about you, I don't think the visa issue would be a problem. He would be talking to you urgently and committedly about how you can go on being together and talking about the future as he sees it, with you both together in the same place.

He isn't doing that.

You have to look past what you want and see what is actually on offer. As he is not offering you what you want, I would take a calm dignified exit and go no contact. I have had to stop all contact with my last ex and it was extremely painful, one of the most difficult things I have ever had to do - but I knew it was the only way I'd get over them. It's been 7 months or more now and I'm dating someone else who is absolutely wonderful and I'm very much in love. But I still don't feel safe to be in contact with my ex; it would stir things up again and could be awkward or hurtful for one or both of us. At the moment, it's not something I'm willing to do, even though they recently got in touch after the 6 months no contact I asked for ended. And I'm STILL not sure if we can be friends. Soon it will be a year! You sure as fuck can't be friends after just a few weeks when you are still in love with them.

The Baggage Reclaim website was instrumental in helping me through the last year, and there is a special section on the No Contact Rule here. You can also search the same site for things like 'staying friends with an ex' and see what she has to say on the subject! I really strongly encourage you to take at least 6 months out from being in touch with him; no contact for me while also being the hardest was also the best thing I could have done for myself. Good luck.

Moanranger · 08/03/2013 22:32

It seems a very difficult relationship to maintain. I suspect that when his latest visa problems cropped up, he felt it unfair on you if there was no certainty that you 2 could even be in the same hemisphere, never mind country. He also may have felt that trying to maintain this complex relationship was too much trouble while he was trying to sort out his own situation.
Geography can be a very real constraint, & many would not have continued a relationship like yours. I think you should accept that it is not meant to be, at least not now, & move on.
As far as the friends thing is concerned, I am neutral, but you should maybe put that on hold for now whilst you come to terms with the end of your romantic relationship.

tallwivglasses · 08/03/2013 22:32

What is the point of splitting up if the long-term plan is for you to get back together? Unless he wants to shag around...sorry, OP. But why would he risk losing you because it'll take up a lot of time organising a visa? It doesn't make sense to me. The tears could be guilty tears, I'm sure he does still have feelings for you...but I don't think he's being honest here Sad

claudedebussy · 08/03/2013 22:38

'He also said that for him, sex doesn't have to mean anything more.'

this stands out to me. it sounds like he's not ready to settle down and he wants to play the field.

the best thing i think you can do now is to stop contact, as heartbreaking as that is. you might feel right now that he's the one, but it doesn't seem like it's going to work out that way. give it some space. he broke up with you. he must make a move if he feels he made a mistake. it can't come from you.

so you don't contact him and try to get on with your life.

overmydeadbody · 08/03/2013 22:45

I tihnk if he really wanted to be with you forever he wouldn't have broke it off with you.

It sounds like it's just one of those relationships that's not going to work, so you need to start getting over him, for your own sake.

I'm really sorry op, but lots of good advice here already. Give yourself at least 6 months without contact from him.

Try to let go of the thought that he is your future partner. If he was, he would be with you now.

pictish · 08/03/2013 22:55

I can only echo the others.

If he was in love with you and thought of you as his lifelong partner, he would not have broken it off. The visa schtick is a red herring.

I'm certain he doesn't want to hurt you, but it looks like he has changed his mind. He is trying to let you down gently.

I'm so sorry. x

SacherTorte93 · 10/03/2013 05:51

Thank you all for your responses. It wasn't what I wanted to hear, but was what I needed. I hadn't talked to anyone else about it - I'm a pretty private person - so getting your input was great. I've just now talked to him and said a lot of what was here, and he accepted it, which I think shows that you were all right - he doesn't love me and doesn't have any intention for us to have a relationship again. It's been a pretty emotionally overwhelming few days especially because I had a miscarriage yesterday, not having known that I was pregnant, but I have truly appreciated and thought a lot about all of your opinions.

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Lizzabadger · 10/03/2013 06:30

So sorry about your miscarriage. You must be feeling dreadful.

I also think your ex isvtrying to let you down gently. The reality is he probably has someone else.

By far the "best" way to get over a relationship is to go no contact. It's like ripping a sticking plaster off quickly - much more painful now but it's over much more quickly. Don't look at his Facebook page or anything. Make it a clean break. Stay busy. Good luck.

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