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Help me, please

30 replies

PhuzzyPhelt · 16/02/2013 12:48

I need help/perspective.

VERRRRRRRRY long

Trying to cut this as short as I can.

Boyfriend, 37, finally got a job after being unemployed for 4 years - in a call centre which he hates, but I was very proud of him.

Our relationship seemed to get better after that - for 18 months before he got a job I was effectively paying for everything - all food/drink, meals out etc. Also had to give him money to help him pay his rent and arrears for Virgin bill and electricity. I even topped up his phone and bought him cigarettes, wine. He had his own flat but it was a right mess so he was always at mine. He then he lost his flat - landlord didn't like state of it, did it up and then gave him his notice.

Whole way thru relationship my boyfriend was extremely paranoid I was cheating on him. He was cheated on in the past by an ex girlfriend and he would go mental when any man would send me a text on my phone. Now, some of these guys I'd seen, previously, who texted to say "how's you?". Most were just friends (no relationship history).

I never encouraged any contact or sought any, but would reply to be polite. One night, when he still had his own flat, I had went to tesco after work and when I got in he'd disappeared. He'd went to pub and got very drunk, then came back and accused me of having an affair. Things got very horrid very quickly and he was calling me terrible names like whore, slut, I disgusted him, he despised me etc etc etc. Hours of this. Shouting and screaming at me. I got desperate and asked that he leave - he refused saying only way he'd go was if I got police. So I did get them, he immediately said I was a psycho etc etc.

We eventually started talking again after he said he couldnt go on without me and apologising profusely. Sometimes with a drink in him he'd be abusive verbally again, but he'd claim to not remember it next day. He screamed at me once in a restaurant as my phone got a text. He had me in tears in the street and then refused to give me my own keys, meaning I'd to go to my parents 30 miles away. They got involved and helped me get him to leave in the morning. (I'm ashamed)

Cue lots of "I am going to kill myself without you" and the like. Slowly, I let my guard down like an idiot, again. Then he lost his flat.

I agreed to let him stay with me in the short term til he saved a deposit for another flat. He didn't pay anything excepting twice when he gave me £40 towards bills.

The next time he got so abusive; again with a drink in him, I immediately told him to go, I was scared of a repeat performance. I'd been out with my girlfriends and when I got in I said something flippant. Can't remember exactly but it was light hearted and meant to be fun. He started ranting again. He then screamed at me "you won't like what Ive done now" - he'd tweeted my friends that he blamed them for my attitude. Truthfully, he wasnt even mentioned, but he was so intent on "putting them straight". No insistence from me could reassure him.

I'm ashamed to admit this - he refused to go, telling me I should F off, why should he have to leave, he'd done nothing wrong! After hours of being called a whore and all sorts and threatening the police I eventually pulled at his hoodie and tried to drag him to the door. He was holding on and refusing to move and grabbed my arms. He sat at the door and told me he wasnt leaving. I kicked his leg twice, I wasnt wearing any shoes. Not a hard kick, more a tap, but I did do it.

Since that time he has more or less been threatening me with him being a victim of domestic abuse. I felt at the time I should involve the police and admit it, but he wouldnt let me. I was the one bruised from him grabbing me, but I started it, I tried to get him out.

So things weren't great. Next time I was out with my friends I got a text from a guy saying he'd been let down and had a spare ticket for a gig. I mentioned this to the boyfriend when I got home - more about asking if he'd mind if i went to the gig, and he flipped. Same evening he also found a sock in his drawer that wasn't his - turns out his mum had gave him them last time he stayed with her but he'd forgotten. I was accused of having men in and being a whore, again.

He pushed me and threatened me and wrestled my mobile off me. He called the guy in question and threatened to "hunt him down and slaughter him". I again said I was going to call the police. He told me to go ahead as he was the victim. 2 hours of door slamming and name calling til 2 am. I actually recorded some of the things he was screaming. (ashamed). Next thing was he came into the bedroom with a kitchen knife and held me by the throat. Threatened to kill me if I didnt give him my phone. I didnt think he would kill me but I was scared he'd cut me, he was very drunk. He let me got after about 10 minutes. I left. I was so scared to involve police as I work in NHS and was scared I'd be convicted. The next day my parents came with me as he refused to leave my house saying he'd nowhere else to go. Eventually we got him out.

He's now my ex, after a whole lot of other stuff as well. His mum knows about the knife incident but asked me to let him stay as she'd be too stressed if he came home. :( I know he's now moved back in there, but I've had emails and texts saying I've caused him and his mum to be ill, with the stress. His mum had a stroke last year and he says I'm the cause of it. I know it;s not true, but he's pushing my buttons and I feel guilt, all the time.

3 weeks ago when my pal (female) was staying he turned up on my street constantly texting that he knew I'd a man with me. I eventually showed him my girlfriend standing at the window. Hours later he came back after drinking and refused to go, said he'd no money and I should give him my tent to stay in as I'd made him homeless. Hours later and he then got in my hall. We called the police that night. They kept asking me if he'd ever been abusive and I said no, terrified he'd report me. They gave him a warning and took him away.

Anyway, I've been trying to work on me.

Since then I've been getting myself together and realising it wasn't all my fault. Unfortunately, in the last few days he read my twitter feed when I'd said something about how I'd had yet another email calling me bipolar and insane, and I would have been mad to stay with someone who I took in and gave money to. No names mentioned but clearly about him.

He emailed me saying it was slander and defamation of character and then emailed my close friends saying I was slanderous and a liar. He also emailed me that I have til 10pm tonight to make a public apology or I wont like his "next trick". My friends know what he's done. I'm terrified what he'll do next. I have ignored him for ages but I eventually mailed him that I have recordings of him calling me names and threatening to kill the guy who texted about the gig.

He's insistent I tell everyone I'm a liar.

If I involve the police, I'll lose my job. Like I say, I pulled his hoodie, him, to get him out that night.

Half my friends say report him, half say just ignore.

He's trying to take everything from me. I just don't know what to do

Help?!

OP posts:
custardismyhamster · 16/02/2013 12:53

Sweetheart, call the police, he is harassing you. You will NOT be done for DV for tryin to get him away from you that night.

You work in the NHS-are you in a union? If so they should have a legal helpline. Ring them and chat to their solicitors for the reassurance, then report his harassment.

custardismyhamster · 16/02/2013 12:54

Oh, and block him on twitter/Facebook/ anythig else. Lock your tweets and change your number. Avoid as much as you can.

Sending hugs cos thisis horrible for you

PhuzzyPhelt · 16/02/2013 12:58

I already have had to change my mobile. Seriously thinking about moving house as well. I'm not in a union, I'm a doctor, and you'd think I'd know better.

I have a permanent job organised for start March, first time in 8 years. I may be the paranoid one but I'm scared he'll try his best to ruin it for me. :(

I have emails and texts where he admits the knife, but says it was me who caused him to use it as I'd smiled at something he'd said.

Arrgggh.

OP posts:
cocolepew · 16/02/2013 12:59

You won't be charged with dv.
Print of any emails and save the texts and go to the police. Change your email or block him (if thats possible), don't use twitter.

cocolepew · 16/02/2013 13:00

Xpost. He has nothing on you, you have did nothing wrong.
Go to the police, please.

cocolepew · 16/02/2013 13:01

I would seek legal advice as well.

SolidGoldBrass · 16/02/2013 13:02

Talk to the police DV unit. They will have heard it all before - you have had to call them out on more than one occasion because of his aggressive behaviour, so they will not take his side. Also, you will be able to show them texts, emails, tweets etc displaying what a knob he is. You can get an injunction to keep this dickhead away from you and if he tries to contact you again he will be arrested and go to prison.

Emmie412 · 16/02/2013 13:03

Please ring the police and report him. You will need to ask for a restraining order as well. He is bullying you and has threatened you with a knife. Please please ring the police straight away. x

Ikeameatballs · 16/02/2013 13:55

I'm a doctor too. You must call the police, seriously you are the only victim here.

ImperialBlether · 16/02/2013 14:06

For heaven's sake, this man is a lunatic and you are worried about pulling his hoodie?

You are clearly an educated woman but you seem to have completely lost control over your private life. I think immediate counselling would be very good for you. It goes without saying you should block and delete so that he has no access to anything you've read/written.

Seriously, though, seek help now.

TurnipCake · 16/02/2013 14:09

OP, I'm a doctor too and if it helps you in any way, I've gone through domestic violence.

You need to get help now, even if you go to the police and say you feel at risk and the reasons why. I lived in fear for over a year thinking my ex was going to harm me - he wasn't even in my life at the time! Cannot imagine how frightening this must be for you.

Long term, I think some counselling will help - it was of immense help to me but for now, you need to seek help in order to keep safe. Good luck, please keep us updated if you can.

NormaStanleyFletcher · 16/02/2013 14:22

He is harassing you. I agree with the others. Talk to the police. They won't charge you with dc when he was the one wielding a knife.

AnAirOfHope · 16/02/2013 14:26

I would call what you did self fefence because he had form for hurting you.

He is an abusive leech. He is also a adult and responsable for his life behaviour and actions. He does not love you but wants to control you and leech off you.

Call the police
Get a restraining order
Move house
Ask your family and friends not to talk to him
Set up new fb/tweets under a different name or just dont use them
Get a new phone
Talk to security and your manager at work to have him turned away if he comes to your place of work
Change your routine, the way you go to work, days you go to the gym and for the first few months try not being alone as much as poss so you have back up.

He is stalking you and that is illegal.

Good luck and stay strong.

You font know.how far he will go, he could kill you so start protecting yourself.

twinklesparkles · 16/02/2013 14:48

Get the police!!

There's no evidence you touched his hoodie or tapped him

He had a knife to you!!!!!! :( :( he is the one threatening. Get a restraining order. You have friends/family that can back you up.. Go to the police hunny ... Now!!

FrequentFlyerRandomDent · 16/02/2013 15:08

I second and third what earlier posters said.

Please contact the police and tell them the whole truth. Please.

You need protecting. You have done nothing wrong.

He sounds dangerous.

izzyizin · 16/02/2013 15:12

What makes you think you'll lose your job if you call the police?

From what you've said, you called the police on him once before. Did you lose your job then?

dondon33 · 16/02/2013 15:13

You must involve the police - as others have already said there's no proof that you done anything so DENY any accusation he throws in there.
He will ramp up this bullshit even more if you don't put a stop to it and soon - your safety is at risk, he sounds fucking unhinged.
Block him from everywhere that you can, twitter, FB, Email, mobile but be prepared that he'll get worse if he can't contact/abuse/stalk you through these means.
Along with the police be sure to tell as many family/friends as you deem necessary and also inform work too.
Good luck and please stay safe.

Casmama · 16/02/2013 15:24

I agree with others, involve the police. You can't honestly believe you would lose your job because he claims that you pulled his hoodie and you kicked him twice? I think you have lost perspective on this, understandably, and police involvement would help dispell the power he has over you.

Lueji · 16/02/2013 15:40

Go to the police and show them all the emails and tapes.

BertieBotts · 16/02/2013 15:43

Tell the police. You acted in self-defence, or perhaps using necessary force to get him to leave - his defence for wielding a knife is that you smiled? This is NOT the same.

kerala · 16/02/2013 15:49

Makes my blood run cold and reminds me of my ex (I was a City lawyer at the time not that it makes any difference but just to let you know you can be professional and in control but have a messy private life).

Second all the others have said what you have done is nothing, nothing at all they will see him for what he is. I ended up having awful screaming rows with my ex have never rowed like that with anyone before or since (now have gorgeous kind and fun DH). Part of the horror of these relationships is they turn you into someone you don't want to be. Have NOTHING to do with him dont engage and call police.

PhuzzyPhelt · 16/02/2013 16:08

Thanks everyone. My fear is he'll go to GMC. I did try and get him to go that night, I knew it was wrong to try to get him out but after hours of listening to what a bitch and whore I was, I'd had enough. He's used it ever since as a threat. The times the police have been involved is when I've called them - twice now.

He's screamed at my parents in person and on the phone that they don't know what Ive done to him (they do, I told them) and is insistent he's going to tell everyone who knows me.

As Ive said, Ive already changed mobiles and am thinking about moving house. I'm not on facebook and I have an anonymous account on twitter but he found it. It's locked now, but not before he tweeted things to my friends and family, including an accusation that my cousins husband is obsessed with me (so untrue) that's now causing problems.

He also facebooked a guy I havent seen in years to warn him off me.

On the one hand I think I must just hide, on the other I think how dare he?

I have leaflets from police DV unit which were posted to me after last time they lifted him. I think if I told them what happened (me trying to get him out) it'd be a massive weight off my shoulders, Im in fear what he'll do next. If I tell them, he can't use that against me. The other thing - and I know I will be shot down in flames for this but if he gets arrested and loses his job ( re the knife) I know I will be blamed and he's threatened suicide before. I know that's his choice, but I'm ill with stress because of it.

I just want not to care and not have any drama.

Thank you all, sincerely.

OP posts:
CaptChaos · 16/02/2013 16:15

Another one saying, call the Police. The guy is a looper and an abusive, violent looper at that.

The DV unit will have seen this before, and will know that you did NOTHING.

Tell work, tell friends, tell your family. The more people that know what's going on the better. Work, I am sure, will be understanding and helpful. Have your mobile near to hand at all times. Block him on as many social network things as you're part of and change your email address.

kerala · 16/02/2013 16:16

Dont care he is NOT your problem. Think of him as the enemy now. I haven't seen or heard from my ex in over 10 years yet also at one time felt weirdly "responsible" for him as I had a good job and he was unemployed despite being 6 years older than me and I worried about his mental health, suicide etc yadda yadda. He is nothing to me now.

You need to extricate yourself if you don't engage at all and call the police when necessary he will not have any "fuel" for his righteous anger against you and will drift off. This whole thing is an embarrassment for you I do empathise. My parents never mention my ex ever I am ashamed I ever had anything to do with him.

ChelseaBun · 16/02/2013 18:11

he sounds so much like my ex. like you I hesitated over calling the police - big mistake. i should have called them earlier than I did. He is now on remand after trying to rape me. Basically it got worse because I failed to call police earlier and all I did was make empty threats.

This situation is not one that you can deal with alone - you need to get the professionals.

The police gave you DV leaflets cos they've seen it all before - your attack on him will not be used against you.

Him harrassing you via your friends and the knife incident is serious!

Please call them - you could then have a restraining order taken out on this nutjob.