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So DH said...

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wavesandsmiles · 28/01/2013 14:18

He knew I wouldn't want to hear it, but he really regrets getting me pregnant. I am 14 weeks pregnant with our first child, which we actively tried for. We each have 2 children from previous relationships, and there are blended family issues causing tension at the moment. I've been getting quite ill with regualr blackouts and am still suffering morning sickness.

We are going to try to make things work, but I am gutted to the core. It is not something that was said in the heat of a row, just in a "let's have a chat about what is wrong" talk.

I feel really upset - he is even talking about separating, and that his mum has offered to lend him money to get a deposit on a rented flat. We bought our forever home in October, and no way can I afford to pay the mortgage myself. I feel lost. I appreciate he is entitled to his own feelings, and to express these, but it doesn't hurt any less that he (a) is contemplating abandoning his pregnant wife and (b) has said he regrets the baby.

If he wants to separate, which he has said will be the case if our plan to improve things doesn't work, I really have no idea what will happen. I know this is a lot of what ifs, but the fact he has said how much he regrets all this, and that in his head he is at the stage where he has spoken to his mum who has offered him money, suggests that his mind may be made up already.

I think I just need some hand holding. He is/was my best friend, my happy ever after, only now it doesn't feel so much like that.

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Charbon · 29/01/2013 20:51

The only reason he isn't leaving is because the woman he's involved with isn't in a position to house either him or his kids right now.

It's that simple.

That doesn't stop you legally protecting your interest in the property and finding somewhere of your own to live, rather than expose you and all the children to this atmosphere.

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Doha · 29/01/2013 20:56

Down tools now waves let him end for himself. He can do his own washing cleaning meals. Act as if you are separated already.
Why should you be his domestic slave at home

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wavesandsmiles · 29/01/2013 21:44

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Undertone · 29/01/2013 22:12

You are a kick-ass, capable, intelligent and dedicated woman. Everything you do is putting others before your own needs (children, step children, career).

How fucking dare he? I mean... How FUCKING DARE HE?!

Yes to telling his mum. Yes to telling the step children's mother. Look at all these women's lives he's disrupted and soiled with his shitty behaviour.

It's all about you and your family now. Except for his share of financial support in the future he is basically dead to you. The persona he fabricated up until now has gone. He's nothing but a cruel heart, a deceiving mind and a wandering penis.

This story has really shaken me. Thinking violent thoughts! Hatred for this man. No one - NO ONE - will be on his side.

Despicable. Ok sorry i will stop ranting.

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LiveItUp · 29/01/2013 22:23

Oh Waves, really feel for you. How can he say he has done nothing wrong? How can he justify texting OW telling them you are over, or that he wants your new baby gone? Shock

Can your Mum move in for a couple of days when she's back to help you while you are so poorly? (and make like difficult for the bastard him?

Get a good sleep and hope you get some answers at the docs tomorrow.

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whosthis · 29/01/2013 22:25

Dear waves , please do not thinking of rewinding history. Please do not look back (not right now). Please don't doubt yourself and your decisions (previous ones and those to come).

Deep down, you know it's just a phase of life finished and a new one to start.

Please focus on what's ahead and be strong for your DCs.

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wavesandsmiles · 29/01/2013 22:43

Everyone here is being so lovely and supportive. Thank you. I know it is going to be really hard for the foreseeable future, especially as he now won't move out. I finished my document review, it is sent off and I am going to try to sleep now. I think that is what I need most of all if I am going to be strong in all this.

I'm going to write a note to his mum. That way I can set everything out logically and rationally. And I will probably do the same re my stepsons mum. It is hard, really hard. I think they are anti me because my stepsons have not been happy as the eldest in particular was very opposed to our marriage. Means I am a bit of a wicked witch character and I don't believe that of myself. But I wont get drawn into any mud slinging, I just want to explain what is happening and why. It all feels a bit scary, I think I need to switch off and try to sleep. Otherwise I am going to have thoughts running through my head about the past and about now and about the hideous future when I will likely have to hand my baby over to this monster who wants it dead.

Must focus on sleep. Tomorrow there is the morning routine, walk to school, work for an hour then my gp. Tomorrow evening I have no teaching so I shall write my letters then. Small steps.

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Bogeyface · 29/01/2013 23:49

To answer your Q, yes it is possible to fall out of love that quickly.

But sometimes it can be a self protection reaction and then the wobble comes and it will, it has happened to us all, and I fell at that first fence :( . The wobble is when he says he will work at it and you are so frightened of what is to come that you agree. I did that. Please dont make the same mistake. I realised afterwards that it wasnt love that was coming back, it was grief that I was avoiding. Grief at the loss of what I thought I had, grief at the death of the man I thought I was married to, grief for the family my unborn would never have. I needed to go through that and I didnt. I cant tell you how much I regret that.

Write down now how you feel. Everything, to the tiniest detail. Everytime he says or does something or you think of something, write it down, put it on MN if you are not sure it would be safe in hard copy at home. And when you get your wobble, read it back. Excuse yourself if he is talking at to you and you feel yourself crumbling, and read that list.

Stay strong. It will be hard, it will be so fucking hard to keep saying no, but when you know thats what you must do, then do it.

I am thinking of you xxxx

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Bogeyface · 29/01/2013 23:50

That should be newborn, not unborn. Sorry!

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ladyWordy · 30/01/2013 00:05

Excellent post Bogeyface...

I hope you sleep, waves, and that your doctor's appointment brings help for you.

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BinarySolo · 30/01/2013 07:41

waves you are doing amazingly. There is so much dignity in your posts. I don't have any advice I can add, but I wanted to add my support. You have an army of mums here on mn horrified and outraged by his actions and ready to offer support.

Stay strong and take care of yourself.

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Sunshinewithshowers · 30/01/2013 09:06

Waves, Im going through very similar.

Im pregnant, he left last week, we were in the middle of buying a house, he told his ex he was single & many others.

I have slept on the sofa last night so I could leave the t.v on for company.
Im bloody scared, but we will get there.

Im still in shock & feel sick, I have found somewhere to live.

I wish you lots of strength & we will look back and be proud that we carried on with our heads held high xx

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wavesandsmiles · 30/01/2013 09:31

sunshine I am so sorry to hear that you are going through similar. I wish you lots of strength back Thanks

Writing everything down is a good idea. I am worried that if he doesn't go I will fall into the let's try again trap, which I know would be disastrous. If I write it all down, then I have a reference point, to remind me of what he is really like. In an hour I am seeing my GP, and will tell her everything. I feel dreadful this morning - woke up, retched, had water, vomited. Have passed out once already, and had to let the children go to school themselves. To be fair it is about a 3 minute walk, and patrolled crossings for the 2 roads, and they have done it before, but I like walking to school with them, practising spellings in advance of tests etc. But today I feel so poorly I just couldn't.

When he left this morning, he said, let me know if the doctor signs you off and I won't take a half day to collect your DCs (mum is away and she usually has them after school so until then it has been a juggling act with family helping out some days, and the odd half day between us). He didn't say, let me know what the GP says about you, or if there are any further concerns over the blackouts etc. Just further evidence that he doesn't care at all. Which helps. It helps because it makes me dislike him even more, and lets me see more of his true self.

I am really trying to avoid thinking too far ahead, although I know I will have to at some stage. Things like the gigs I have to play at during the last 6 weeks or so, where he was going to help me get there, and set up, and then the giving birth, and then having a newborn at home. I need him to be gone by that stage. Well, I need him to be gone now.

And the silliest thing bothering me right now.....Cat poo. FFS. He had taken responsibility for emptying the cat litter tray since I got the BFP. I'll have to get rubber gloves and clothes pegs (for my nose) and get on with tackling that going forwards.

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WingDefence · 30/01/2013 09:41

Morning waves. I've not been able to stop thinking about you (in a non-stalkery way of course). I hope you slept okay last night and the GP appointment goes well this morning.

I wish there was something more I could do.

I know your mum's away but have you heard back from her?

And is the ex he's been texting the mum of his DCs? If so, it should make it easier for her to agree that they can't really come over at the moment? (But I suspect it's not the same person...)

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smornintime · 30/01/2013 09:41

Just found this waves - so sorry you are going through this. Hope you get some answers at the docs.

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tiredteddy · 30/01/2013 10:04

Good luck at the GP today. So brave of you. Writing things down does sound like a good way not to let yourself get sucked back in. Sending you love and wishing I was close enough to help.

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aufaniae · 30/01/2013 10:05

A couple of practical things in case it helps ...

My mortgage company gave me a mortgage holiday for maternity leave. Might be worth checking if yours does the same, could take a bit of the pressure off once the baby comes?

We live with lodgers by the way. Do you have a uni near you? We've had mature students living with us and it's worked well as they're there for a reason IYSWIM, and they leave at the end! It means none of them are there forever, so if you don't get on brilliantly with someone you don't have to think about whether to ask them to leave despite them not having done anything "wrong", you know they'll go soon enough anyway. We've mostly had really lovely ones though.

So sorry you're going through this.

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CODwidow · 30/01/2013 10:17

Just wanted to show my support, I hope the doctors appt goes well.

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WingDefence · 30/01/2013 10:22

olgaga (who wrote the info with the links, above, that I reposted) has got a blog with many more up-to-date links and invaluable advice here: Survive Separation Blog

I think it would help anyone going through this including Sunshinewithshowers.

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cooper44 · 30/01/2013 11:14

Hi Waves I also just wanted to offer support having just read your whole thread. What an utter shit.
I had a similar situation last summer at same stage of pregnancy although OH moved out as soon as I asked. And you're going to feel so much better when yours does the same.
Some practical stuff - my maternity team were Amazingly supportive when I told them what was going on. I was in a high risk group so in hospital all the time and they were in great all the way through even during delivery!
Not sure what your financial situation is but I'm on a reasonable income and now OH is no longer here I get an awful lot in tax credits. Look into anything you might be able to get as it all adds up
I second the mortgage holiday idea. Will give you breathing space.
And a lodger will be tax free with the rent a room scheme.
And one final thing. Your close friends will be totally supportive I'm sure. Mine has totally kept me sane through all this and they too though OH was a great guy!
Hope your GP was helpful. Getting the blackouts sorted has to be no 1 priority.
You sound amazingly strong. Now you just have to maintain that resolve. Every time I've had a wobble OH has done something so ridiculous that it keeps me on track!

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DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 30/01/2013 11:48

Checking in to see how Waves got on at GP's.

Wings even though olgaga compiled that list, still very thoughtful and helpful of you to look it up and copy it here.

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JaxTellerIsMyFriend · 30/01/2013 13:09

oh waves, what a shit. "pick up YOUR DC" urgh.

How did you get on at the Doctor?

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whosthis · 30/01/2013 14:07

waves hope everything is fine with the GP.

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Googol · 30/01/2013 16:14

Make his life more uncomfortable by not doing any cooking, cleaning or washing for him. That's his concern now.

On the practical side photocopy any documents detailing his assests eg pension, savings, shares etc and make a note of his passport number and expiry date as you may need this in the future. Keep them at a trusted friends house so he can't get at them.

Is your DH predictable with his passwords? Just saying...

Lean on your friends and family for support during this tough time and look after yourself. Best of luck.

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pansyflimflam · 30/01/2013 16:45

All really good advice here and just wanted to say poor you and what a fucking bastard. When he realises life will be more uncomfy for him he might try and reconcile but you are right, the late abortion stuff is just chilling. Best of luck my love, I know people will fall over themselves to help you, you have done nothing wrong and don't be too proud to ask for help.

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