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How should I involve my family in our baby's life?

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Msbluesky32 · 22/01/2013 14:10

I grew up in a very unsettled family. My father was very distant and aggressive and my mother was very aggressive and unstable. Growing up with them both was confusing and really stressful. Often my sister and i would come home to my mum packing her bags to leave, others it was my father and mother screaming and hitting one another, and on really unfortunate days my mother hit us too or sometimes we had the joy of all three things in the same evening. My father didnt seem to want either me or my sister. He never played with us or talked to us or took us out anywhere - it was as if we didnt exist. He fed and clothed us but thats where it ended. He was physically there, but not there.
As soon as I was able to leave the home I did. Since then I have had a very distant relationship with both of them. I see my mum maybe once a year and my father less than this. My sister has a very serious mental health problem (partly because of our stressful upbringing) but we remain very close.
I met my lovely DP four years ago (four years this week in fact). He makes me very happy indeed and he is the most patient and kind man you could ever meet. We decided to start a family last year and we were over the moon to find out we were expecting a baby. The thing I am struggling with now is how do I ( if I do at all) deal with my parents seeing their grandchild? I personally have a very limited relationship with both of them, in fact my father has never even met my DP. My father and mother haven't changed - my mother is still very irrational and aggressive and my father has no desire to get to know me. I would never leave our child with my mother because she hit me as a child, but I can imagine letting her get to know our child over occasional visits (once or twice a year). The relationship I'm most struggling with is my father. I think I purposefully haven't introduced him to my DP because I didn't want to involve him in my life anymore - but is it ok to continue like this when there is a child to think about? Am I just thinking about myself and not what is best for our child? I'm so confused...

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Sugarice · 22/01/2013 14:20

You and your dp should ask what they could bring to your lives, seeing as you've been so happy since you left home.

I wouldn't let either of them within spitting distance of your lovely precious baby as they sound unstable and aggressive, do you really want them visiting regularly if they requested it?

They treated you and your Sister appallingly, why would you want them in your child's life?

Msbluesky32 · 22/01/2013 14:27

Thank you sugarice. No, in fact I don't want either of them to see my home - we have a lovely home and I'm very proud of what we have. I guess we could visit them, if we decide to do that...

I agree, I guess I'm worried I am taking away my baby's choice to know of her grandparents, but you are right - what could they give our baby?

I really appreciate your opinion xx

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 22/01/2013 14:30

I had a very violent, unstable maternal grandmother who I only met twice my whole life. I've heard enough stories about her behaviour to know that this was probably best for all concerned and the two times I met her in the flesh were more than enough to satisfy any curiosity. I've never for one second felt that I missed out. I did not even consider attending her funeral. My paternal grandmother, by contrast, was a lovely woman who more than filled the role of 'Granny'.

It is OK to continue with the life you've created.

Msbluesky32 · 22/01/2013 14:34

Thank you cogitoergosometimes, it's good to have that viewpoint. I was very lucky to have wonderful grandparents (on my mothers side) who I look on as my parents. I hadn't thought of it that way x

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 22/01/2013 14:44

I should add.... even though I did not have any contact with my maternal grandmother my DM managed a sort of relationship, keeping her very much at arms length with very rare phone-calls. I think DM found it far more difficult than either I or my DB did to maintain the distance. As DCs we were happy within our immediate family, made our own lives and it was very much 'what you've never had you never miss'. DM needed to retain a slight link I think.

Charmingbaker · 22/01/2013 14:46

You are under no obligation for you or your DC to see them, it sounds like your parents gave up their rights to be part of your life a long time ago. If you do choose to see any of them meet somewhere neutral for a short period. Your DC is your main responsibility now and she needs is a mum who has a positive support group around her, not sure that's your family.
My DH has a difficult past with his parents ( though not as bad as yours). We see them once a year, our oldest DS is 15 now and he very much sees them for what they are (selfish, lazy, ignorant and bigoted). We are currently having a discussion wether or not to cut off contact, but I do think having some limited contact has helped my DS1 see why DH has very little to do with them. DH can find it stressful when we see them but me and the DCs find it slightly bemusing, I think it's because we don't have the emotional attachment DH has. My DCs have great relationships with my family and our friends so don't miss out at all.

Msbluesky32 · 22/01/2013 14:56

Hi charmingbaker thank you, that's v helpful. My DP has met my mother maybe three times and finds her seriously odd. By the time we have left I have a pounding tension headache and am exhausted, so I know how your DH feels. It's a duty bound thing I think, rather than wanting to see them you feel you have to.

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spatchcock · 22/01/2013 16:21

"By the time we have left I have a pounding tension headache and am exhausted"

For this alone I would avoid them. I wouldn't want my child to witness this kind of stress and think it's a normal result of seeing relatives. Your child already has a loving family - you and your husband. It's more than a lot of kids have already.

They obviously didn't feel obliged to give you a happy childhood, no reason at all why you should now feel obligation to see them.

jellyrolly · 22/01/2013 16:41

I don't think you are depriving your child of anything by not seeing your parents. What you do owe your DC is a happy mother and you would not be happy with them in your life regularly.

My parents were fairly toxic, they aren't around any more (one died, one overseas) but my grandmother recently came to stay with a view to living with us. I thought it would be great and I was pleased to offer her a home. I felt it would be healing as I was now an adult but realised I became a stressed out, irritable, snappy, cold, dysfunctional mother when she was around - exactly what my own mother had been.

It's hard to admit our parents and relatives are poisonous sometimes but that is exactly what they are and you can choose to restrict exposure. You sound like a lovely person, your child is lucky to have you and your DP and won't need negative people.

I would keep contact exactly as it is expect that soon you will either have your baby with your, or leave them with your DP.

jellyrolly · 22/01/2013 16:42

baby with YOU, sorry.

Msbluesky32 · 22/01/2013 17:21

Thanks spatchcock I agree, although it's a bit tricky to completely cut myself from them - my mother in particular - as they do both see my sister a few times a year and I have become her unofficial guardian/spokesperson. She lives in a supported living environment and I go to provide support to her at some family events. I might need to rethink how I will deal with them now...

Thankyou for your kind words jellyrolly I'm determined to ensure our baby feels only love, security and support from the moment she arrives.

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Pilgit · 22/01/2013 18:59

sounds brutal but what your child doesn't know they won't miss. My dad isn't really involved in our lives - his choice. We told him (me and Dsis) that our children wouldn't miss out as they wouldn't know there was anything to miss. Only he will miss out on that relationship. He saw our relationship with his father and won't have the same with his grandchildren. His loss. When my grandfather died before christmas my DD (3.5) matter of factly took the news and told me that she had 2 grandfathers (my GF and her GGF and her paternal GF) and now only had one. I didn't explain it to her that she had 3 and now has 2. It wasn't the time. It was an insightful thing to say but it did make me sad for a bit. That she'll never have him in her life except as a random old drunk that pops up occasionally leaving a lasting smell of alcohol, cat piss and smoke after him. When she's old enough we'll explain that he's toxic and that's why we don't see him.

Your children will have lots of people in their lives that will love them and will be a positive thing in their lives (as grandparents should be) they won't miss them.

Msbluesky32 · 23/01/2013 12:38

Thank you pilgit it is very reassuring to hear so many other stories. It has made me very confident about how to deal with this in future - so thank you all for your support xxx Thanks

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