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Wanker ex

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Betrayedbutsurvived · 18/01/2013 18:44

I've been a long time lurker on here, but I've had to come out of the shadows and vent about what an utter utter arsehole my ex is, and it's probably going to be long.

Background, I was a very young mother, my dd is an adult now. Her father (aforementioned wanker) was nearly ten years older than me and we split when she was just two. There were many reasons for the split, not least the fact that he was violent, and regularly raped me. Things were very different then, and the police considered such matters to be "domestics" and didn't really want to get involved, also, as I said, I was very young and wasnt able to stand up for myself as I do now.

I could fill an entire thread about what a bastard he was after we split, highlights include locking dd out in the snow age 4 for daring to ask for a sandwich, I finally managed to get contact limited, and once he realised he could no longer use her to control me he stopped seeing her altogether. Needless to say he never paid a penny towards her upbringing.

When dd was about 15 she went through the usual phase of hating me and building her absent father up into some kind of Demi god, she tracked him down and resumed contact without me knowing, he seized the opportunity to fill her head with how evil I am, and being a stroppy teenager she was more than happy to believe it. He allowed, even encouraged her to drink, smoke and bunk off school while I nagged about homework etc. I didn't stand a chance. Around this time the twunt developed a mysterious illness that the doctors could find no trace of, yet it prevented him working and resulted in him being given three months to live at least three times over the next ten years, usually coinciding with his latest girlfriend coming to her senses and leaving.

Dd grew out of the stroppy teens and we grew closer again, but still she would hear no wrong against her dad. By now he'd become an alcoholic and everyone except dd had turned their backs on him, so she felt responsible, she did all his washing and cleaning, gave him money and regularly took him meals. I gritted my teeth and ignored it until the day the world came crashing down.

Dd was involved in a very serious car accident, it took two hours to cut her out of the car, and she was rushed to hospital for emergency surgery. While she was being cut out of the car she was conscious and screaming for me, but she wasn't able to give my details. The person she was with gave the police her fathers address, and the police went to break the news and ask for help finding me. He completely refused to help. Claimed he couldn't remember my name, where I lived, or where I worked and he didn't know anyone who might. He even refused to give his own families addresses in case they could help. Finally the police tracked down his other daughter who pointed out that my dds best friend lived next door to him and may be able to help. She could, and I was finally told eight hours after the accident!

I could fill another thread with the things he did during the nine weeks she battled for life, but suffice to say he never once visited her, and two days after the event told a friend she had a "smashing" time that night. He thought it was an hysterical joke.

Thank god dd recovered, although she has been left with a few mobility problems, the scales have finally fallen from her eyes and she has cut him out of her life, but, she's got some compensation, and that utter utter cunt ( I never use that word, but I'll make an exception in this case) is trying to get a cut of it. He's turned up claiming that he has again been given three months to live, and he needs a couple of thousand pounds to make his last few months bearable. Dd told him to fuck right off, so now he's telling anyone who will listen what a heartless bitch she is, and people are actually believing it and trying to talk her round!!!!!!

Dd is devastated, and I'm apoplectic. I'm so tempted to go round there and tell him in no uncertain terms what I think, but I honestly think I'd end up lashing out at him. My husband says I should just ignore him, dd is an adult and can fight her own battles, but since the accident I've become a bit over protective and I can't bear to think of her upset by this, she's been though enough. Not to mention the fact that I don't want her caving in and giving him a single penny.

Thank you if you've made it this far, as I'd really appreciate some advice on what to do from someone who isn't involved.

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izzyizin · 18/01/2013 22:30

With my £20 that makes £60 so far, and I'm willing to throw in a case of Absinthe to make his heart grow fainter speed him on his way plus a few gallons of meths he can use as a mixer to make highballs.

At this rate I reckon we could have him planted within a month Smile

Iceaddict · 18/01/2013 22:50

Hi sorry you're going through this. Is there any way you can draw up something legal (that actually means something) to do with paying money lent back? I'm not good on this stuff but if there is, she could say yeah I will lend you money, under these terms, if you sign this etc... Whatever they may be. I imagine he would refuse and she'd have her proof he's a waste of space, but if he agreed she'd get her money back anyway. Hope this makes sense even though I'm not even sure you can do it

izzyizin · 18/01/2013 23:27

What are you proposing Ice? That the dd lends money to the twunt on condition he pops his clogs no later than 3 months from the date shown on a document as drawn up and signed by both parties, and that he undertakes to repay her in fulll with interest as specified therein if he doesn't keep to the terms of the agreement? Hmm

Sounds good in theory but, with his form, in practise he's likely to renege a) by not shaking off this mortal coil on or by the specified date and b) after resolutely remaining on this earth, by failing to repay a penny of any sum loaned to him in good faith.

But that's by the by as why the actual fuck should the dd countenance giving him anything - including her urine if he were to (please, pretty please, o lord) spontaneously combust in front of her?

Iceaddict · 18/01/2013 23:41

No i dont think she should give him money! i mean this to be a plan Only if theres a chance she is weakening and may actually decide to lend him the money, hopefully it would get him to run a mile and prove himself for what he is to be honest.

Iceaddict · 18/01/2013 23:43

If she weakens and is going to do it anyway it would be useful to have a way to get it back if there is such a thing

izzyizin · 19/01/2013 00:20

The twunt's an abusive controlling arsehole, a wastrel, a cad, a scoundrel, Ice and I suspect it would be infinitely easier to get blood out of a stone that to get him to repay even a miniscule portion of a loan no matter how ironclad any ageement he'd appended his X to, or the fact that his dd would have made it out of the goodness of her heart.

Jeez, I feel in urgent need of a shower contaminated just from thinking about the nature of this creature. What manner of being behaves in this manner to its offspring?

Iceaddict · 19/01/2013 00:25

good in theory though, like you say

izzyizin · 19/01/2013 00:36

He's proved himself for what he is, Ice, and it sure ain't honest Sad

trustissues75 · 19/01/2013 08:41

I have to agree ICE, I can see where you're coming from, but at the end of the day it's just a piece of paper and people like that wriggle out of everything - [us trying to enforce the piece of paper has the potential of costing as much if not more than the amount lent. Far too risky because I doubt he'd run a mile...he doesn't have enough respect for the court system or anyone else to think for a second that there would be a possibility he could be forced to pay it back - he'd probably disappear or file for bankruptcy, or even more likely, sit there all smug with his holier-than-thou attitude as he watches the drama of trying to recover the money unfold. By giving him power its simply feeding his little narcissistic, twisted, hateful soul.

HecateWhoopass · 19/01/2013 11:38

When he didn't pay her back (and he wouldn't) she'd have to take him to court. Imagine the hassle she'd get then! Taking your dad to court how could you blah blah blah

I do think, like I said upthread, that she really really really needs to tie up her money in an investment that she can't touch for a year. (minimally!)

Even if she doesn't tie it ALL up, and leaves herself something to play with - she could tell him that she has.

And that has the added advantage of being a financially savvy thing to do that is likely to mean she puts her money to best use.

Betrayedbutsurvived · 19/01/2013 15:18

Thank you everyone, some great advice there. I'm going to show her this thread.

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izzyizin · 19/01/2013 15:26

Give her our love Thanks and tell her we're all rooting for her and we're always here 24/7 should she ever feel the need for the wise counsel that comes from bitter experience and/or bucket loads of moral support.

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