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New(ish) relationship and starting a family together - impartial advice needed!

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fizzyface · 16/01/2013 14:58

About 6 years ago I met a guy at work and fell for him in a big way, but the circumstances for a relationship weren?t right. Part of that was we were both quite young at the time, I had a 7 year old DS, and I assumed he wasn?t to settle down with a family kids etc. TBH I don?t think I was ready for that then either, I just liked him so much I liked the idea of it more than what the reality might of entailed. We never really talked about things, it was just sort of a given that we had fun together and that was all.

So we had a brief no-strings fling and went our separate ways. Shortly after the fling ended, I met XDP, was with him for 5 years and have a 14m old DD with him. The relationship started to turn sour during my pregnancy and gradually got worse, involving EA and alcohol abuse. I tried to persevere and work though the problems but life was miserable for everyone, the final straw was his treatment of my DS and the impact it had on him. XDP and I had been living virtually separate lives since around June/July, with the exception of the regular arguments/bitching.

At the end of July I told XDP that the relationship was over and asked him to make arrangements to leave. He was upset, begged to save the relationship, promised to change etc but it was too late for me. Over the years the guy I had the fling with had tried to contact me a few times but I always ignored this as I knew, with how strongly I had felt about him, any kind of contact would be a bad idea.

In September he tried to get in touch again, so this time I replied. I explained that I was coming out of a messy relationship and maybe the timing for another fling wasn?t good. To my complete surprise he revealed that he had always had strong feelings for me, he had wanted more than a fling the first time but didn?t know how to tell me. He regretted letting me go the first time and would give anything for a chance at a real relationship. He said he would wait as long as it took for me to be ready.

Initially I insisted we took things very slowly. We kept in touch but nothing happened until XDP moved out at the end of October. We met up and all the feelings I had for him were still just as strong. We started seeing each other once a week with the intention of taking things slowly. But like all good intentions, they went to hell in a hand basket pretty quickly! We are like teenagers, can?t keep away from each other, and miss each other when we?re apart, very affectionate ? all the signs of the first flushes of romance.

He is thoughtful, attentive, kind, and funny ? everything I could want. The one night a week date has turned into 6 nights, he pretty much goes home for a change of clothes and that?s it.

So, things have moved exceptionally fast ? much quicker than I anticipated. We have talked about moving in together, starting a family, marriage ? the whole deal. He wants everything and if I?m honest, so do I. He wants it all now, and again so do I; it feels like we wasted the five years apart and if we are both happy and know that this is what we want then why wait?

I haven?t told my family yet as I think they still hold out some hope that XDP and I will resolve things. They knew we had some problems but not to what extent and our DD is only 14m. I think the separation came as a bit of a surprise to them and they would be shocked to know that I have moved on so quickly. I want them to accept this wonderful man in my life and not look badly on the relationship. I think they will assume I left XDP for him, which was not the case. I am desperate to tell my family about him but I don?t know how to broach the subject or when the right time will be.

Also he wants us to start trying for a baby now, and if I am totally honest, so do I. He makes me so happy, I want more children and I would love for my DD to have a little brother or sister to grow up with. It feels so right, and we?d both be ecstatic if it happened. My only reservation is that I don?t want to have 3 children with three different Dads! No matter how you dress that up it does not sound good. I also think my family (and possibly his) will be unsupportive and tell us it is too soon, a bad idea and to wait a year or two. But we both want to just get on with starting our life together, being happy.

So firstly ? when/how is the right time to tell my family about the relationship?

And secondly should I let my heart rule my head with regards to moving in and starting a family? Should I just think ?to hell with what everyone else thinks! We are happy together and we both want this. Who cares that I will have 3 kids with 3 dads? They will all be loved and raised in a loving family home. This is my life; if I want this I should not let how other people will think of me affect my decision?. Or do I accept that people will judge me that way for a reason and maybe I should slow things down and wait at least a year or so.

FWIW by best friend of 15 years, who knew XDP and current partner, thinks we should go for it. She says we were made for each other and she knows we will stay together and have children so thinks we should do what makes us happy. She says I was never this happy with XDP, not even at the start of the relationship and she could see 6 years ago that partner and I were meant to be together, it was obvious then and she has been waiting years for us to sort it out and be together. All my other friends that have met him and know about him are telling me to go for it and do what we want to be happy.

I?m hoping that some honest opinions from some impartial people will give me some clarity, and help me make the right choices this time around! Do I be ?sensible? for the sake of others or accept that I finally have a chance to be happy and grab it with both hands?!

Sorry for the long back story!! All opinions/advice gratefully received with an open mind!

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fizzyface · 16/01/2013 15:00

Sorry for all the ?'s - bloody computer has converted punctuation!

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harryhausen · 16/01/2013 15:06

Why do you have to have baby so quickly?

I say go for it - meaning the relationship. Of course if its making you happy. However, if it was me personally, I'd be waiting a while before another baby. If things are still great after 2 years, then maybe think again?

Sorry if that's not want you want to hear. I'd just be extra cautious with the baby thing. Other than that - have fun and be happy!

CogitoErgoSometimes · 16/01/2013 15:09

In the last six years you've not really had that much time to yourself and work out what you want from life. I'm concerned about a man that carries on staying in touch with someone when they're supposed to be in a long-term relationship with someone else and they have a child. I'm also concerned about a man that wants to rush you into marriage, homes and more babies after just a few months. He isn't giving you chance to think and I don't think that's a good sign

I don't know how old you are but please take a big step back from this and give yourself chance to think. Your friends may think this is the 'big romance' and you're meant for each other etc. but, if you are supposed to be together, it won't matter if you wait. There's a big difference between having a fun fling with someone and settling down for life.

Take your time.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 16/01/2013 15:16

If you have just exited an EA relationship, please read this article Sometimes the relief at being away from one abusive man can blind you to the faults of the next one.

fizzyface · 16/01/2013 15:25

I don't particularly want to hear one thing or another ? just honest opinions/advice! I think that's the thing, I know that the ?sensible? thing to do is wait to move in/get serious/start trying. And we can, there's no problem with that, we?re both happy to do that. It?s just something we've been talking about and said we?ll both give it some thought before making any rash decisions.

We've only talked about trying for a baby now as I have had difficulties conceiving in the past and neither of us is getting any younger. It would be nice to keep the ages close to my DD as I don't particularly want another big age gap. But none of these things are a deciding factor ? we are both prepared to wait if, after giving it some thought, we decide that's the right thing for us. I will admit the thought of having another one is lovely, I would love to. But I am prepared to wait. I just wanted some opinions --probably telling me what I already know deep down!?to help me make the right choice Smile

Thanks Cog ? I may not have phrased that quite right! He does want all these things and wants to assure me he is committed to this. But he is not pressuring me in any way, quite the opposite. He has said repeatedly if I want to wait, slow things down he will do whatever it takes as long as I am comfortable. If I want to wait a few months before even continuing with the relationship he will, he will go back to one day a week if that?s what I want. So there is no pressure, he is just letting me know this is what he wants too, now if possible, but whenever I am ready is fine too. Also he didn't know I was in a relationship, had a baby etc. He only found out in September (by which time XDP was already over) and then just said he would be there, no pressure. If he knew I was seeing someone he wouldn't have contacted me over the years. He is a genuinely nice guy.

I totally take your point about taking my time though, and I will. Will read the article too x

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fizzyface · 16/01/2013 15:42

I?m glad I read that, and hindsight is 20-20! A lot of them definitely apply to my last relationship, especially the early days and how something that seemed nice, turned into poison. I can say with all honesty that doesn?t apply to my current partner. Whilst he wants to let me know what he wants, he is happy to take things at a pace I am comfortable with. I still value reading that though, and will keep it in mind.

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 16/01/2013 15:47

With respect, you don't know your current boyfriend yet. You had a brief fling several years ago and you've now been together for just three months. That isn't enough time to judge someone's character and certainly not off the back of a long EA relationship where perceptions of what is normal or acceptable get skewed badly.

Whether you think he has pressurised you or not, and whilst I'm sure you think you have done everything so far entirely voluntarily, it is alarming (to me at any rate) how fast he has swooped in and is already practically living with you and your children 24/7. You have no life that doesn't have him in it.

RubyrooUK · 16/01/2013 15:53

So you don't really live together yet? With all the daily stresses and strains that come with it? How can he possibly be sure he wants to commit to a baby with you when he isn't living in the same house sharing in the realities of being part of a family? (Staying over is not the same as there is always an escape route.)

I'd move in together if you are that committed. Decide to talk again about a family after you've lived together for 6 months.

I don't think there is anything bad about having three kids by three dads.

I do think however that after such a recent relationship breakdown, you owe it to your existing family to set up the best possible home for them. Which means you need to be sure that this relationship is strong and durable in the long term before you bring another child into it.

I know this is all very boring. You may indeed have met the love of your life. But in that case, both of you will have your lives together so you don't need to rush things now.

harryhausen · 16/01/2013 15:59

If you've had trouble conceiving then maybe I would leave maybe 12 months of living together before you start trying for a baby, instead of the 2 years I just dragged out of the hat.

I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with 3 dcs with 3 dads either, as long as you go into this one with as much knowledge/confidence/awareness that this man is a keeper as you canSmile

I know there are no guarantees. Try to enjoy yourself and your new relationship for what it is now, rather than what it will bring IYSWIM.

Good luckSmile

Thisisaeuphemism · 16/01/2013 16:05

I think its great that you are together and are happy, but I find it hard to understand why after splitting from your ex, finally, in October, you would be thinking about having a baby with another man. I really don't get the rush. Why not enjoy your special time together now? You've wanted to be together for so long, but now you can't wait to add another person in the mix?
As for telling people, just be casual about it, Oh yes, I've met someone, we're seeing how it goes. There's no need to give them the whole dramatic, he's the love of my life, after just three months.
That sounds v. negative, but I didn't mean it to, I just want to say, enjoy, relax and slow down. What other people think is no big deal at all, but making the right decision for you and your 2 dc is.

Mollydoggerson · 16/01/2013 16:07

I think you need to be cautious, while you may like a sibling for your daughter, it might be a little too soon for your son.

I think you need to ease him into a spacce where he is accepting that exdp is gone and he needs time before another father figure is introduced to the family.

I think you should just enjoy the relationship for what it is for 12 months and then re-assess.

fizzyface · 16/01/2013 16:08

I knew him for a lot longer; when we had the fling 6 years ago we had known each for a couple of years before that and mixed in the same circle of mutual friends for a long time. So I know his ?character? for want of a better a description! I also know through a friend of a friend his XP. He ended things with her yet she still speaks very highly of him, things were amicable and she describes him as a decent bloke ? no horror stories. As for doing things voluntarily, after I told him I was coming out of a relationship and didn't want a ?fling? ? he laid his cards on the table so I would know what he wanted, not to rush me in to anything but just so that I would know he wasn?t just using me for fun.

Then he said he wouldn?t contact me again so I could make my own my up. And he didn't. I left it almost a month before I replied and he respected that. He actively encourages me to have nights out with my friends so I won?t feel smothered by him, he knows about my last relationship and wants to ?nurture my independence?! He is supporting me signing up to evening classes and booked a weekend away after New Year for me and my best friend as a surprise for us both. He & I spent New Year's together and he wanted me and my mate to have a ?New Year? of our own. He has plenty of interests outside of the relationship and he is helping me to get some of my own, something I never had before. He constantly checks I am ok and several times has asked me if I want to slow down, or if things are going too fast etc. I don?t want to harp on but just to say that he is genuinely a nice guy.

Thanks Harry/Ruby - I think that is good advice, to live together first. And I still think we need to delay doing that for a good few months yet. I am more than prepared to wait to get this right for me the kids. I think that's how it will go - move in in 6 months or so, wait a year and then start trying. The most reassuring thing is that you haven't all told me off for the 3 kids/3 dads thing! At least when the time eventually comes, I may be a little less self conscious about that part Grin

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fizzyface · 16/01/2013 16:10

Cross posts - thanks for all other good advice too! Smile

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HeathRobinson · 16/01/2013 16:13

I'd probably go into the relationship, but wait at least a year for another baby, if it were me.

If you're worried about your age, you could ask your GP re storing some of your eggs?

LoopsInHoops · 16/01/2013 16:13

I have to agree with everything Ruby and harry said.

Move him in, wait and see for at least 6 months.

If you're thinking of marriage, why not do that first, after living together for a while - you have something exciting to plan, but that can be backed out of if needed, not like a baby.

ps. please don't call it 'starting a family' when you already have one, especially not to your children.

LoopsInHoops · 16/01/2013 16:14

Also agree that 3 kids, 3 dads is fine. :)

whattodoo · 16/01/2013 16:21

To ve honest, I think the main issue here is your son.

By the sounds of it he's had a turbulent time with your XDP. I think it would probably do him some good to have a settled life with you and his sis for a while, before introducing another father figure and sibling into the mix.

That's not to say that I don't really hope or works out for you and that in a year or two you aren't all living together as a family and planning the next member!

fizzyface · 16/01/2013 16:34

Thanks all - especially going to my GP - that might help as at least then I'd feel it can still happen for me at some point in the future.

My son is very sensible and is very happy for me, we are very close. He would be honest if he thought partner was a twunt Grin but he likes him and wants me to carry on seeing him. He also likes him as he respects that my kids will come first and that sometimes my son just wants time with me and his sister and my partner is always happy for us to do that. He?s spent some time with the children but not 24/7, as he also knows it is important for the children to be happy, and for me to spend time on my own with them.

I?m really grateful for all of your wise words, will help me stay grounded and set an appropriate pace for the future. I think we should consider moving in together in 6 months time, and maybe kids a year or so after that.

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AThingInYourLife · 16/01/2013 17:10

"Should I just think ?to hell with what everyone else thinks! We are happy together and we both want this."

I see "everyone else" and I see "we both" but I don't see "the two children I already have" in there anywhere.

You have an older child who must be 13?

You've just moved a virtual stranger into his home and are going to give him another new sibling?

I don't see any moral issue with 3 children by 3 fathers, but I do think a teenager needs a lot more stability than their mother moving a succession of (in this case short term) boyfriends in and having babies with them.

Your toddler won't really know what's going on, but you owe it to her not to let her get attached to a new boyfriend before you have been together a while.

You aren't a teenager and acting like one doesn't become you when you have two children relying on you to out them first.

millie30 · 16/01/2013 17:27

Completely agree with AThingInYourLife. I'm sorry, but your last partner mistreated your son and your only priority right now should be giving him a bit of stability, not practically moving in another man within 2 months.

MaggieMaggieMaggieMcGill · 16/01/2013 17:39

I just really really want to say, what's the hurry? Neither of you are going anywhere, stop rushing towards things. And concentrate on the kids you have before adding another to the mix.

izzyizin · 16/01/2013 19:00

It's time you stopped putting the cart before the horse

If you've found an honourable man who treats you and your dc with respect and consideration, why not celebrate your good fortune in 'finding' each other by getting engaged in, say, 6 months time which makes ample provision for you to introduce him to your family in the interim, followed by a winter 2013/summer 2014 wedding and then set about ttc?

The fact is that while society may judge you for having 3 dc by different fathers, it won't judge you so harshly if one those dc is born in wedlock.

RubyrooUK · 16/01/2013 20:22

Sounds like a good decision fizzy. Also if this man really is the love of your life, then you can look forward to lots of nice things happening for you both...moving in, weddings, babies. You don't have to do them all now; get full enjoyment out of all of them by giving them time.

I do understand the pressure on having kids at a certain age. But you have two lovely DC already who need you and have been through a lot with your ex. By taking it slowly, all of you will hopefully grow into a new family together, which is a much lovelier story than anything else.

Good luck.

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