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DP's found out about my friendship

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computersaysno · 18/04/2006 22:42

DP has tonight found out that I am friends with a man, he thinks its more than it is and wants to leave me and our kids, my 6 year old is very upset as she was there when he found the texts on my mobile as I had arranged to meet him this Friday.

Am so scared and just don't know what to do. He's got DD into our bed to calm her down.

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JVickers · 19/04/2006 13:41

I can understand exactly how your DH is feeling at the moment as I found an email on my DH pc from a girl he had struck up a 'friendship' with. Now I do believe nothing physical ever came of it but I did feel extremely hurt and detrayed as you don't need to be physical with someone to be intimate and if you had nothing to hide why didn't you tell your DH. Fine talk at the school gate or in passing but when you need to communicate in private then I'm sorry but its not right.

I hope for the sake of you children that you drop this friendship and your DH has time to cool down and think rationally about this.

Good luck
Jo x

secur · 19/04/2006 13:46

It sounds like he kept it secret from his wife too then?

TBH I would say that all other issues aside they both have the right to feel angry and hurt - if you needed to keep it secret then you knew there was a problem in hte first place and really should have dealt with it then rather than leaving it to later when everyone could get hurt by it.

Explain it all to your other half and be totally honest about why you felt you couldn't tell him.

hen you need to deal with the other issues - I agree you shouldn't be with someone you are scared of - even if it is only occasionally.

Uhuru · 19/04/2006 15:37

Hi - Don't mean to make you feel any worse but i found out about my h's secret friendship with a female colleague last year and it ripped my world apart.

My H was like you - it is only platonic, I kept it secret because I knew you wouldn't like it. Like your situation the woman involved keeps contacting H.

Please stop the friendship as soon as possible to rebuild your relationship - look after your children - you say your Dh is the only one for you - prove it to him.

Good Luck - I hope you two are able to sort this.

computersaysno · 19/04/2006 16:16

Uhuru, thanks for your post. Have you been able to work through it, has the trust been lost between you, DP says I am not the person he thought I was and thought we had the "perfect" relationship and how wrong he was. How can you rebuild something like that. Just feel very stupid....I know if it was me I would be so angry but for the sake of the kids would have to try and work it out, thats if I believed what he was saying of course and not sure that DP believes me as I lied to him initially...

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computersaysno · 19/04/2006 16:17

Am not going to carry the friendship on tbh I was doing it for him as he was the one having problems not me, I was happy and I had told him that, I think he does carry a torch for me but have always made it clear that I am with my DP and I love him and my family.

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lou33 · 19/04/2006 16:24

what about getting your dp and your friend together as a chance for them to get to know each other?

Uhuru · 19/04/2006 16:27

To be honest - it still haunts me everyday - I don't think of him as a good man like I used to. Previously I used to hope for my dd that she will meet a man like him - now I pray that she won't and she'll meet an man who has the balls not to lie to her just because it's easier.

That said I do love him - but not totally like I used to and I don't like him as much.

Sorry - probably not what you wanted to hear but it's the truth.

MrsBadger · 19/04/2006 16:31

Am thinking of you - had a similar situation myself (long ago, pre-kids and with previous partner), but can honestly say that it's never wise to be friends with a man still carrying a torch, however much you think you've both moved on. Especially if they have 'relationship issues'.

Demonstrate to DP that you really are severing all contact with the friend - make him watch as you delete all mails and texts, remove numbers from phone, block from MSN, bin notes and cards.
Apologise unreservedly and agree never to mention it again - if you're not careful it could come back and bite you on the arse if DP is the sort to use it in future arguments.

Have no advice on how to keep him if he really wants to go though Sad.

mummypumpkin · 19/04/2006 20:49

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SleepyJess · 19/04/2006 21:05

CSN, you say DP thought you were "perfect".. well he's at fault too.. no-one can live up to that.. nobody ever is perfect! Say to him, 'well sorry.. if it's perfection you want, you will have to leave and try and find someone who can live up to that.. but if it's someone who loves you, who until now, you loved as well, warts and all, then maybe you should reconsider." (Not that I am trying to put words into your mouth or anything.. Wink)

Also point out to him that many strong people put relationships back together whereby one party has actually outright cheated.. and this is not the case here, not anywhere near it. The only problem (large problem though it is) lies in the fact that your friendship was with a man and therefore you unwisely kept it a secret because you feared what he (DP) would make of it. You know realise that was a mistake because it automatically makes your 'dealings' with this man, innocent though they were, seem underhand and like an affair, but in fact nothing could be further from the truth. So if he ends this relationship it will not be for the reason he thinks he is ending it (ie you having been unfaithful).

Tell him there isn't much you can do about him seeing you differently now.. but perhaps he is better off looking at both you and your relationship together without rose-tinted specs. Perhaps you could suggest that much as you love and him and want to stay together with him, that he is also not perfect due to his behaviour when he has been drinking and how it makes you feel (but that you do love him warts and all!) Suggest a fresh start.

I don't see what else you can do really. I kind of think that you were maybe entertaining the idea (if only ever in your head and with no intention of acting on it) of 'something more' than just friendship with this other guy, but that now the poop has hit the fan it has driven all thoughts of that right from your mind and made you see you were just 'playing'.. and hey, we've all done that (well many of us!).. because nobody is perfect and we all feeling flattered by the attention of the opposite sex, and will be more susceptible to it at some times more than others.. and mostly our our private thoughts are our own to entertain ourselves with!.. but you don't have to share these thoughts with DP (!)... just maintain your innocence and persevere.

I hope it works out ok. It's still early days. Keep the lines of communication between the two of you open as best you can, have no contact with the other guy and tell DP exactly what you have said to him about this and why, and DP may start to see the light a little.

SJ x

quanglewangle · 19/04/2006 23:24

I don't get this either. Why make such a big deal of it - you are just friends fgs. It isn't that unusual to have friends of the opposite sex, especially from the past. You can't be expected to break all ties from the past or to itemise all your friends. I wouldn't give up a friendship if I didn't want to and certainly not to order.

SleepyJess · 19/04/2006 23:32

Well I think it depends on the dynamics of a particular relationship Quangle (and others of a similar mind). It's no good saying 'what's the big deal?' just because it might not be a big deal in your relationship. If I'm honest, I would have.. and have had.. issues with DH and friendships with other women.. it's just the way I am, not proud of it.. I can't help the way I feel... whereas DH is fine with my chatting away to men on MSN etc.. (not strange men! Men I know!) I know there is nothing whatsoever going on.. and so does he.

It's like what I was saying below.. nobody is perfect.. we all have our quirks.

quanglewangle · 19/04/2006 23:54

OK, I take your point SleepyJess, but reacting to a distorted perception of the situation isn't going to help. Her dp needs to learn to trust her. Caving in by ending her friendship with this man will only work in the short term and will solve nothing.

SleepyJess · 20/04/2006 00:39

I see your point too... but acting on an ideal version of how the situation perhaps should be perceived is not helpful either. If CSN wants to to save her relationship, then a grand gesture (putting a lid on a friendship that was pretty much about supporting this other guy through his ups and downs, anyway, by the sound of it) is probably the very least of what is needed. A matter of priorities.

JVickers · 20/04/2006 08:21

When the same thing happened to me it wasn't the fact that the friendship was with the opposite sex it was because it was hidden, if my DH had come right out and told me about it from the start and introduced me to this woman then I probably wouldn't have minded. The secrecy made me extremely paranoid about what was going on.

Jo x

computersaysno · 20/04/2006 10:02

Thanks everyone so much for what you have said, especially Sleepyjess, everything you said makes such sense to me and I am really grateful that you put in the time to reply to me, thanks again Smile

DP and I have managed to sort things out, he said at the time he wasn't thinking rationally and now has had time to go over everything in his head and he now believes what I have told him and said that if his female friend, whom he has known since childhood was in that situation he would have been a "friend" to her too. He said the only difference would have been that he would have been honest with me about it. He does realise now my reasons for not telling him, because of his bad temper and assures me that this has made him totally grow up and realise that his family is whats important to him rather his petty jealousy.

I feel so lucky that he has given me this chance, because I did deceive him and had only this week arranged to meet this man this Friday and thats what hurt DP too, knowing that I was going to meet him this week.

I have cut up my sim card and am now arranging to get a new phone number, I may see the guy at school but without a doubt his wife will be with him and am sure she will make sure we don't have any contact. Its best this way because the other guy was starting to get too close to me and I didn't feel right with that anyway. I want to do everything to mend the trust between DP and I and if this is the way then so be it.

Thanks again everyone, thinks like this just make you realise how lucky you are.

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SleepyJess · 20/04/2006 10:20

That's great CSN. :) I know in an ideal world we would all trust our partners 100%, not have irrational jealous feelings and not feel the need to keep secrets.. but hey, this is real life and we are human!

So glad you are sorting things out.

SJ x

computersaysno · 20/04/2006 14:59

Yes and the problem DP and I have is the fact that we are both possessive with each other but he has a bad temper to go with it! I would have reacted far worse than he did and I have so much respect for the3 way in which he has dealt with the way I have hurt so very much. I am just glad we can put this all behind us.

Thanks again Sleepyjess you have been a great 'virtual friend' Smile and thanks everyone else for helping me through this scary and uncertain time.

Smile Smile

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NotActuallyAMum · 20/04/2006 15:45

Really glad you got this sorted

All the best to you Smile

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