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How to move on from past mistakes and relationships?

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NextSteps2013 · 02/01/2013 10:32

Namechanged! I am aware I am probably going to get flamed a bit for this but hoping for a bit of helpful advice along the way! I am just going to put down the facts/ expereinces in order and those which I think are influencing where I am at now - I am not trying to engineer sympathy but would like advice on letting go of past mistakes. Sorry it soooo long!

Here goes:
when I was a aged between 5 and 8 I was badly sexually abused by my grandfather. As soon as my DPs found out we went he was prosecuted etc.
Unfortunately at the age of 18 I then suffered a horrid sexual assault at my first place of work, again this ended in a prosecution.

I feel these two events gave me a very bad backdrop on relationships! I hadn't really had a boyfriend up until this point and struggled with the concept of enjoying a sexual relationship with someone when I had stood as witness in two men being prosecuted for such things. I know these were very different and non-consentual but this is how my mind worked.

I was very shy and quite timid, then just before I turned 19 I met a policeman and began a relationship with him. He was nice enough but was very controlling, I never met his friends and though we lived together he would go out alone, rarely go out with me, tell me what to wear, get annoyed if house/ dinner/ me etc wasn't as he wanted it, etc. Gradually over this time (4 years) I gained my degree, got a good job and my confidence started to go up. When I was 22 I found out he had cheated on me and left him. unfortunately I also discovered I was pregnant. He had always threatened if I ever fell pregnant he would abandon me and not support etc. I was terrified and in hindsight, in what was a complete panic, I had an abortion.

3 weeks later, in a complete mess, and as a huge mistake I met what I thought then was the perfect man. He was older than me but protective, supportive, encouraging, loving. He made me feel adored. I finally felt able to enjoy sex. I really thought I had landed on my feet and fell in love (again in hindsight this wasn't love just need but hey-ho!). 6 mths into the relationship he told me he was married but they weren't together, however they lived together for the children's sake. I know I should have run a mile at this point but i didn't and that is something I have to live with. I insisted he either had a relationship with me, i.e. moved out of the family home or he remained with wife. what I didn;t know was his wife had found out and kicked him out, so he moved in with me under what I thought was his choice. He lied to his wife about where he was living and tried to rebuild his relationship with her, we'd been together about a year at this point. I think it was going well (them rebuilding), then she saw us together and again it all fell apart. she came to see me one day and was so nice it still makes me curl over with guilt. she told me I was young, naive and vulnerable, her DH wasn't a nice a man and liked power and control and would do whatever he could to get it, she could now stand up to him which was why she thought he had an affair, she was worried I couldn't. He tried to convince me she was just trying to manipulate me but I wasn't convinced and from that moment onwards was worried by him. I tried lots of time to break up with him, each time I did it he would either turn into a sobbing mess claiming suicide and he had lost everything for me, or would turn up at my place of work causing a massive scene until I agreed to re-establish a relationship with him. Over this period of time he became increasingly controlling and violent, sex was terrifying. His violence was subtle (accidental he would call it) but what scared me the most was how he would control my space, blocking doors, exit routes, pinning me down etc. I was scared by him but made to feel so responsible for him and his situation that I felt I had made my bed and had to lie in it. He lived with me and off me financially, half the week (with another woman unbeknown to me the other half!) My then boss realised I was a bit of a mess and secretly (away from BF) arranged counselling for me. I became stronger and spurned by the discovery of more cheating kicked him out. I have never seen him since - I think because he knew I could stand up to him he never tried again.

Right to the problem now - fast forward 6 years, I carried on counselling for a couple of years and life transformed. I am now married to the most wonderful man possible, i am confident, happy, secure and content. I have a beautiful ds and another dc on the way. I rarely think about all these things until night time. I keep having nightmares that because I was the OW, because I put another wife life and her children through hell, karma will come back and some how take away everything I now value. I feel like I deserve the pain she must have suffered due to me, I carry so much guilt about my role in the destruction of her marriage that I can't let go of it. I have nightmares that her ex-h will return and take my children, kill my husband, kill me (there are many variations of these dreams!). I also feel the same thing will happen because of the abortion, that I don't deserve healthy, happy children. I am so anxious about this pregnancy and keep being convinced something will go wrong because I killed a baby so many years ago. I've had 3 mcs and all I could think is, I deserved that because of the abortion.

I have in all sense and purpose the most perfect life. I am so loved, and have so many people to love, why is this haunting me now? How can I let it go?

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Wecanfixit · 02/01/2013 10:40

I think you have managed to turn your life around after being through a horrendous ordeal at the hand of a horrible controling man, I am sorry you are struggling to let go of the past , afraid this take time , would you consider going back to counselling ?, you obviously need help and support to be able to let go of your demons, it will happen focus on what is good in your life now and cherish that , no one can take that away from you, all the best .

NextSteps2013 · 02/01/2013 10:43

thank you - thing is I am fine in the day, don't feel I have a problem - it is just the nightmares when I go to sleep. It only started with this pregnancy. I keep wondering if it becuase I kept looking for reasons for the miscarriages and then I started to blame myself and then it snowballed - I don't know, it is just driving me nuts and the nightmares are so upsetting.

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 02/01/2013 10:46

I wonder if you're depressed. You say you're confident, happy and secure but these fears are quite irrational and extreme. They don't come from a confident, secure, happy place.... they come from severe self-doubt and feelings of unworthiness. The imminent arrival of a new baby can trigger anxiety or fears for the future in people who haven't struggled with the experiences you've had. Wouldn't be a big leap to think it is amplified in your case.

There is no such thing as karma btw... bad things happen to good and bad people quite equally. There is no vengeful god dishing out rough justice to sinners either (if you have a religious background).

So I'd suggest you talk to a GP about the way you feel. Good luck

BantaBaby · 02/01/2013 10:46

I agree with fixit. Given what you've been through in the past, you've managed to pick yourself up and make a great life for yourself. I think professional counselling is the best thing for you. You don't deserve bad things to happen to you, you just attracted them in the past because you were vulnerable, and certain types of men see that and use it.

I may get flamed for this, but I think what you should focus on as regards being the OW is - it happened to you too, it wasn't you who was responsible for the breakup of that marriage - it would have happened afterwards anyway - possibly with the other woman he was seeing when he was with you. You shouldn't carry the blame for this. I personally would be interested in getting back in touch with the wife who approached you and was nice, and explain how her advice helped you to get rid of him. He is the man at fault - that may actually help her feel better about things, given that she was so nice and understanding about your situation.

As I said, counselling may help, good luck with things, you deserve good things after all the crap you went through.

mcmooncup · 02/01/2013 10:59

The nightmares are possibly a bit self-fulfilling now - you go to bed expecting them and hey presto, there they are.

I wouldn't necessarily blame your anxiety solely on your past. You are pregnant, every woman feels more vulnerable when they are pregnant because you are essentially having to rely on someone else to look out for you for at least a limited amount of time.

I would try and concentrate on what you have - consciously. Each night before you go to bed, write down what has happened that day in your present lovely life, what you are grateful for, what made you smile. Tune your brain to be thinking about the good things. The bad things are passed. You have resolved them, and worked hard to change your life. You should be proud. And anyway, whatever happens in the future will be - you will handle that anyway because you are clearly a strong, capable and functional human being.

And I agree with Cognito - Karma is a pile of shit Smile

NextSteps2013 · 02/01/2013 11:15

Thanks all.
I don't feel depressed at all, it is just the nightmares and waking up in the night when it gets to me. Of course I carry guilt about past events (I am not proud of the roles i have played) but I thought I had dealt with it all and come to terms.
mcmooncup I wonder if you are right, i am now a self-fulfilling prophecy!
I re-read that post and it sounds terrible, I do want to re-iterate lots of happy things happened in this timeline as well. Logically I know karma doesn't exist and these are just dreams! I would however like my happy, fluffy dreams back instead now!
I would consider going back to counselling if this continues, but I equally don't want to make it into something it is not, hope that makes sense.

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 02/01/2013 11:21

So work on finding ways to relax and make your waking hours calmer. Read up on ways to get better quality sleep.... I read a recent article suggesting eating two kiwifruit before bedtime helps promote sleep, for example. Do everything you can to de-stress, avoid stimulants and so on. Good luck

LulaPalooza · 02/01/2013 11:28

I know this might sound a bit woo, but have you tried meditation-type techniques before you sleep?

I used to get terrible, terrible anxiety dreams and nightmares and found that going to bed slightly earlier than I normally would and giving myself 20 minutes to properly relax really helped.

I would start by flexing and relaxing each part of my body, starting with my toes and working my way up my body, even including my facial muscles. I would also do deep breathing. As I relaxed each part I would consciously feel the softness of the bed supporting me (NB, make sure you have a nice comfy bed!).

I would then imagine myself in a relaxing scenario - in a field on a summer's day, at the beach, lying in a hammock... whatever took my fancy that night. Perhaps you could bring positive images of you, DH and your children into your head?

I feel a bit daft even typing that, but it worked for me. I'm sure there are books and online resources which could explain it better than I can, but it's a technique I was taught by a colleague.

I'm so glad to hear that you've moved on so much with your life and I agree with mcmooncup - you should be proud of yourself.

LulaPalooza · 02/01/2013 11:30

[http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/emotional_health/mental_health/coping_relaxation.shtml something like this]]

LulaPalooza · 02/01/2013 11:30

Arse. Sorry.
like this

NextSteps2013 · 02/01/2013 11:56

Thank you Lula

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sarahseashell · 02/01/2013 12:18

firstly congratulations on going through so much and coming out the other side Smile

as well as more counselling you might want to consider things like yoga, cranio-sacral therapy?

LulaPalooza · 02/01/2013 12:19

Hope it helps, NextSteps.

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