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Mum doesn't get it - I don't want to visit

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Believeitornot · 23/12/2012 19:56

My mum is married to an emotionally abusive, angry violet bully (not my father).

She's even had to have part of her finger amputated as during one of his temper tantrums he slammed a door on her hand.

He has violent mood swings then acts as if it's all ok. Mum acts as if it's all ok once he's finished. For years I too acted as if it was normal to spend an afternoon walking on egg shells whenever I went over.

Anyway, since then I've had two DCs and I refuse absolutely refuse to visit. I explained upfront when my first was born why I wasn't going over. However mum slowly is trying to get me to visit, telling me that her h is changed etc etc.

I only go at Xmas to exchange presents. But already she's written me a letter asking why I don't go down with the children and has asked me over the phone to come over more often. I just smile and make noises but never commit.

Has anyone any advice? Do I need to explain it again to her? I suspect so but it's horrible. I feel like I regress to a nervous teenager with no confidence when talking to her about it. TBH I know that's what needs doing but I just needed to share. Thanks

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ImperialBlether · 23/12/2012 19:57

Stick to your guns. Is she welcome at your house? Where do you usually meet? If you pretend to accept this man, she'll be able to lie to herself about his behaviour. Tell her you'll visit when her relationship is over.

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 23/12/2012 20:00

She doesn't have to get it. But nor do you have to go over to hers.

If she accepted your reasons, she would have to put her relationship in question, and she's clearly not ready to do that.

You can stay away whether or not she accepts your reasons.

Poor woman.

Believeitornot · 23/12/2012 20:02

She is welcome but she never comes as I said her H cannot come. He is her shadow.

Xmas I go to hers - the only time I visit.

I accepted him for about 15 years from being a child but hated visiting. I used to feel sick on the bus there. I finally found my voice and said no but part of me feels so so guilt. Not sure why.

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CabbageLeaves · 23/12/2012 20:04

Don't feel guilty.

You are possibly the only person in her life telling her that this behaviour is unacceptable. A brave thing for you to do

Believeitornot · 23/12/2012 20:04

Yes HOT I feel sorry for her but she won't walk away I know she won't.

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AfterEightMintyy · 23/12/2012 20:05

Yes, you need to explain it to her again.

CogitOCrapNotMoreSprouts · 23/12/2012 20:06

Keep repeating the reason why you won't be there. i.e. She's married to an abuser, he hasn't changed and, all the time she's with him, you won't be paying house-calls. That's all you have to say.

Believeitornot · 23/12/2012 20:14

Th funny thing is I know what I need to say but saying it is so hard. Took a lot to say it the first time around.

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CogitOCrapNotMoreSprouts · 23/12/2012 20:19

It gets easier with practise.

Believeitornot · 23/12/2012 20:22

Yes I bet it does! Thanks everyone. It's good to get it out here. I'm logging off now for a bit but thanks again.

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suburbophobe · 23/12/2012 20:27

Yes, you need to explain it to her again.

Well, you could be explaining it to her till the cows come home....But will she get it?

You are absolutly right not to take your DCs there!

Do you know the book "Toxic Parents" by Susan Forward?

It could give you a heads-up.

www.amazon.co.uk/Parents-Overcoming-Hurtful-Legacy-Reclaiming/dp/0553814826/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356294328&sr=8-1

MammaTJ · 24/12/2012 05:19

You are doing the right thing in protecting your DC from this situation. Well done. Keep strong.

FellatioNelson · 24/12/2012 05:37

Yes, you need to spell it out to her again I am afraid. Do it in a letter if it make it easier. Is she not allowed to visit you without him, or does she just choose not to because she thinks you are being unreasonable and mean towards him?

swallowedAfly · 24/12/2012 07:18

"mum you KNOW why i don't come and you KNOW you are welcome here anytime you want if you come alone".

and repeat, every single time Smile

you're in the right. it's a boundary you have rightly set and she keeps testing so every time she tests it (uncomfortable a feeling as that is i know) you repeat the above mantra to reinforce it.

once it's been repeated a few times she will stop testing hopefully and the choice will still be hers whether she wants to see you enough to come alone. the ball is in her court not yours, despite her trying to make it otherwise.

Believeitornot · 24/12/2012 08:02

Fellatio I'm not sure actually. There are always last minute excuses (well from mum). Usually what happens is her H kicks off behind the scenes then mum tries to smooth it over and tell some rubbish lie. So she doesn't then come around. He even did it with my wedding and told mum she couldn't go. I ignored that one and carried on as if she was, including sending my brother over to get her.
I just find it incredibly stressful. So I prefer to just speak over the phone.

Toxic parents - will check it out. Relationship with mum is a bit messed up to say the least!

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