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DH sees no future for us

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Snowydrift · 18/12/2012 14:20

because I'm unemployed and haven't been able to find a job in the past two years. Then he slammed the door and left for work. I'm dreading him coming home now :( Can you help me get some perspective please.

From his point of view I'm a lazy scrounger who steals his money. He resents me not having a job.

My point of view: I got pregnant whilst still at uni (his idea, I thought more of waiting til I had a job). Had DS three weeks after my finals. We'd just moved so he could start a new job. Before that I was commuting 2 hours each way to uni. Then only 1:45 for the last 2 months. Had DS. Started looking for work. Had a cancer scare so I wasn't looking as actively as I could have been because I wanted to spend as much time as possible with DS. Finally got a crèche place for DS, registered unemployed and got some money this way. Still found nothing, nothing. Rejections were because I had no experience. My advisor wasn't worried and told me something would turn up. In the mean time he put me on a work experience placement (condition of receiving unemployment) which I did 60%. I started to get interviews because I now had some experience. I got offered a job at 100% which I turned down because it was too much. DH then, off his own back, said that even 80% wouldn't be fair on DS and I should look for 60% max. Just as these interviews started to come in DH suggested we try for number 2. In my stupidity I agreed because we'd had problems with trying for DS and I thought it'd take another 2 years. Fell first month.

Then I got a call offering me a job from the previous company who came to me without even advertising the job. I told them I was pg, when baby was due. They told me it was to cover maternity leave, due when my baby was due. They thanked me for being so honest and told me to contact them when I was looking for a job again (I have done, they have no free positions at the moment). DH was furious and told me I shouldn't have told them I was pg. I thought it was dishonest not to, especially as there are a limited of companies in my field in the region.

I'm now looking for work again, but with the worsening economic situation, companies are even less likely to employ part time staff. DH says I'll never get a job because my applications are rubbish and I'm not employable. (That's it, no offer to help because "he's been working all day".)

I'm absolutely fed up. I live in DH's country, so all my applications have to be written in a foreign language (DH's native language) yet if I ask him he tells me there are mistakes, its not written as a native would write it, but won't correct it. Because I don't want to work in the field he works in he says I'll never get a job. Since DS was born (and before) he's done nothing to help in the house, cleaning, cooking, shopping etc. He's never done a night shift with the children. Not even when I was doing the placement "because it's a hobby, you're not actually getting a wage for it are you?" and not even when I was puking my guts up every day for 20 weeks. We'd agreed a rota to collect the munchkins from crèche, but he would randomly call up and say he wasn't going to get them (so I would have to leave early and get them). Despite me having a glowing reference from my previous employer it "counts for nothing" because DH reckons he could have done much better if he'd done the job.

This has all come to a head because I asked him to sign a permission slip for DD for crèche. She's just started. He says its a waste of money because I don't have a job, and my unemployment has now stopped as it's been two years since I registered. I can see his point. But we waited one year for a place for DS and I registered DD when I was pregnant, she has a place now at 9 months. If we give up the place there's no point me even looking for a job. (the crèche is means tested, and half is paid by my mum).

How do I deal with this? I did suggest that we wait another 6 months and if I still have nothing, then pull them from the crèche. But he seems to have forgotten this conversation.

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chocolateistheenemy · 19/12/2012 05:22

Can you do a TEFL course and teach English? You could work from home or at local houses/apartments.

OpheliasWeepingWillow · 19/12/2012 05:32

Oh my god. Get a job. Any job. You need security away from this man.

Put an exit plan in place.

Look into legality of divorce and custody.

You are in a horrible situation. Sad

Bedtime1 · 19/12/2012 05:33

Oh snowy. Don't let him keep eroding your Self worth. He's not helping you at all to get a job. He says he wants you to then does the opposite. He's really messing around. You really need to stand upto him and not pander to Him any longer. When he compares you to his mum why don't you tell him some home truths too. He is Definatley no where near perfect and is a lousy husband, who doesnt help out with his own kids. Do you never just tell him to get lost?

Why don't you tell him what you need, put your needs and the kids first. He will just have to deal with it. If he refuses to help you if you get that job then there is your answer, he doesn't respect or show love , therefore do you want to be with him? Your worth more than this. Your a team and your the only one doing your bit right now for that team.

CogitOCrapNotMoreSprouts · 19/12/2012 07:19

"I tried to tell him about the jobs I've applied to recently, but he didn't want to listen."

Do you see? All the time you do this you are demeaning yourself by justifying your very existence and he's simply ignoring you and letting you grovel. End result is that your self-esteem is smashed and he has you trapped and utterly controlled. It's known as Emotional Abuse, it's nasty, and it's a form of domestic violence. Link here that might be illuminating.

Do take steps to protect yourself and your children from this man.

MadSleighLady · 19/12/2012 07:21

Oh good god, you're not being paranoid at all! You told him about a job an agency were putting you forward for, but which had some logistical difficulties, and his response was to raise his eyebrows. Is that the act of a man who really wants you to get a job?

Bet you anything that when DD is properly settled in at creche and you're starting to get interviews again he suggests trying for number 3.

CogitOCrapNotMoreSprouts · 19/12/2012 07:25

BTW... your thread title said 'he said there's no future for us'. This could be a golden opportunity. Call his bluff, say you fully agree with him that there's no future and then ask him to leave. He will be obliged to support you and the DCs financially when divorced, of course.

SpecialAgentKat · 19/12/2012 11:13

Good, breakout the champagne and change the locks before the prick gets back!

Seriously though... :( You don't deserve this. You know that!

Don't you?

SparkyTGD · 19/12/2012 11:23

Agree with CogitO

I am in your position but am fully supported by my DP, he works full time, I do all the home/kids stuff. His wages are 'our' money.

I see no future for you & him either, sorry Sad

He sounds very mean.

Do you have friends around who can help/support you to separate?

Snowydrift · 19/12/2012 20:31

I can't deal with this right now. I have too much to sort out. I don't think I will take the job. It's too far away from the kids if anything happens. It would be one thing if it was a direct commute, but having to change trains three times is too much. Moving is, at the moment, not an option. I have friends here, the crèche is really good. It's not too far from where my dream job would be (if they were recruiting, but they're undergoing restructuring and my old boss won't know if he has any possibility to create a job for me until February at the earliest). It's close enough to MiL that she can come and look after the kids one day a week.

Do you think it's sounds reasonable if I suggest to him that we put a date on it. Say, if I still haven't found something by june then we pull the kids from the crèche? Then I have a bit of stalling time. I'm seeing my parents over Christmas and was planning fish to see if they would pay part of DD 's fees too.

He did already suggest number 3 (after he once decided not use a condom) but I freaked out, took the morning after pill and told him it wasn't even up for discussion until DD is one.

I stopped telling him about the jobs that I was applying for because I was fed up of his comments, but now he thinks I haven't been applying to anything. I'm wondering if I should just apply for any part time position in this town, that wouldn't look bad on my cv if I eventually find something in my field would it?

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MrsTerrysChocolateOrange · 19/12/2012 20:36

I think you should set a date and deadline this. Not for the creche but to leave him. However, you don't seem in that place yet so do whatever you feel is right. I think he is going to get worse not better. BTW not using a condom because he chose to, without consulting you, is abusive. He is very controlling and I would be seriously careful if I were you. You should take control of the contraception. Don't leave it to him.

CogitOCrapNotMoreSprouts · 19/12/2012 20:45

"Do you think it's sounds reasonable if I suggest to him that we put a date on it. Say, if I still haven't found something by june then we pull the kids from the crèche? "

Why do you think this abusive man has any intention of being reasonable? Why are you still trying to make him happy?

tribpot · 19/12/2012 20:53

Yes, I fully agree with Cogito. 'Reasonable' has nothing to do with this situation. He is milking your dependence on him for all it's worth - that much is obvious from his suggestion of dc number 3! It makes NO sense in the context of all his other remarks and please do not consider it - not when DD is 1, not when DD is 21, frankly. Notice both of your pregnancies have happened at his suggestion so far. Yet surely you would less of a 'scrounger' without two children to look after?

Please get away from this man. He is trying to break your spirit.

MadSleighLady · 19/12/2012 21:39

He did already suggest number 3 (after he once decided not use a condom)

How much choice did you have in that at the time?

Snowydrift · 19/12/2012 21:56

I didn't know til afterwards.

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MrsTerrysChocolateOrange · 19/12/2012 22:02

Snowydrift do you understand how wrong that is? Him deciding not to use a condom and not telling you. I am deadly serious, I would divorce my husband if he did that. No arguments, no explanation. No one makes unilateral decisions about your body but you.

Priya1978 · 19/12/2012 22:03

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MadSleighLady · 19/12/2012 22:12

If the dream job company aren't recruiting till Feb, would temping be any good? Not thrilling, but it would get you out of the house and earning and away from your fuckwit controlling abusive husband and give you the flexibility to leave if/when the right permanent position came up.

Agree with the others on "reasonable", I'm afraid. This man is not interested in reasonable.

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 19/12/2012 22:22

What a vile, vile man. He wants you barefoot and pregnant and utterly dependant on him - while simultaneously abusing you for not being his economic equal.

Why do you give a flying fuck what he thinks about creche or anything else? And why in God's name are you still having sex with someone who treats you like a piece of shit on his shoe.

I suggest that you lay the whole thing in front of your parents, and see for yourself the reaction you get. His treatment of you is horrifying, but I can see from your posts that you don't yet fully realise that.

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 19/12/2012 22:23

Priya - I'm reporting your post. You could have PM'd quietly - what you have done is advertise. Also, the OP is abroad.

Priya1978 · 19/12/2012 22:26

Oh oops I didn't mean to advertise. I didn't mention any names in order not to advertise. I am new to mumsnet, sorry. I will try to delete the post if I can

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 19/12/2012 22:31

You can't delete posts, don't get yourself in knots trying :)

I've reported it now so MNHQ will deal with it if they think it needs to go.

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