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Why do we bother?

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superstarheartbreaker · 14/12/2012 18:01

Why do us women bother persisting with relationships? In my past I have been controlled to a point where I almost died, lied too, been rude to, cheated on etc. OK: I have had a few nice men and some good sex but they havn't lasted and so really why do I cling onto the idea of finding a relationship? In my experience the vast majority of people aren't going to get me and/or be that nice to me. I've had so many short flings and yet I persist in my quest.

I think that for me persoanlly it is because I am a hopeless romantic and I still believe in love. The cynic in me says that it is because I believed all those fairy tales about finding a handsome prince! The other more base part of me knows that it is largely to do with sexual chemistry which is entirely natural and anavoidable. It will normally take over in the end.

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SummerDad · 14/12/2012 18:06

It is nothing to do with your being a woman IMHO. Men could be suffering with all the symptoms you mentioned for yourself. Sorry, wanted to be quiet but could not help it.

superstarheartbreaker · 14/12/2012 18:14

Sorry; don't mean to be sexist; you are quite right. Given all the pain that realtionships create is there enough joy to make it all worthwhile. I obviously havn't found my quantum of solace yet!

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SummerDad · 14/12/2012 18:28

me neither I also happen to have a pessimistic view because of my own bad experience but surely there are people out there, both men and women, who believe in fairy tales and who have a lot to offer. All you need is to be in the right place at the right time with a lot of good luck Smile

InNeedOfBrandyButter · 14/12/2012 18:40

I agree with summer dad it's not just a men are all bastards issue and all women are great.

I truly think everyone as corny as this sounds needs to love themselves first instead of fixating that the other person will make them a better person or relying on the other person for their happiness.

superstarheartbreaker · 14/12/2012 18:49

hmmm...timing was nevre my strong point and I am getting sick of relying on me and being 'happy' alone when it has been going on for years. I WANT MY FAIRYTALE! [stamps feet and flounces off!]

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amillionyears · 14/12/2012 19:34

OK. I am going to wade in and risk getting flamed.
May be the men you are looking for are not the ones that want to have sex on the first few dates?
Just a thought. Feel free to ignore what I say.

SummerDad · 14/12/2012 20:49

I WANT MY FAIRYTALE! [stamps feet and flounces off!]

That really made me smile. Smile

janelikesjam · 14/12/2012 21:08

Romantic love is culturally given very high importance in the West. With age I have come to see the deep richness and value of many other kinds of love.

CogitOCrapNotMoreSprouts · 14/12/2012 21:09

Looking for love is an expression of hope. It's easy to make a mistake when seeking handsome princes/princesses in a world filled with slimy toads :) ... but don't run yourself down for being an optimist and willing to keep taking that risk. Just learn to spot the toads quicker!

SummerDad · 14/12/2012 21:14

Who knows, a toad could be the real princess charming waiting for a kiss Grin

BertieBotts · 14/12/2012 21:15

I think if you have a "fairytale" view of relationships coupled with some possibly skewed ideas about what men (or women, SummerDad!) are like in the first place then that can put you in quite a vulnerable position in many ways.

If you're fixated on the idea of a relationship and believe that a good man/woman/relationship is rare and are worried about ending up alone, then you're likely to overlook small niggles which you might have at the beginning of a relationship, because you've already invested a lot in this and don't want to give it up and go back to that uncertain, single state wondering whether it's ever going to happen for you.

If you're lucky, you meet someone who's right for you anyway and everything is brilliant. In most cases, the relationship just isn't quite right and it all ends up going wrong because you try too hard to hang on to it anyway and you come out of it with your self esteem and self worth damaged. If you're really unlucky you find a controlling partner who at first seems amazing and promises this fairytale you have wanted forever, and turns into an utter living nightmare.

If you change your outlook about relationships, you're much more likely to end up in one which is right for you. Instead of seeing men as "naturally" XYZ (whatever your underlying beliefs about men are) just remember they're just as varied in outlook and opinions and beliefs as women are. Instead of feeling like most men are "bastards" and there are few "good" men around, just see it as that everyone is different and there are so many people in the world that there have to be a good few matches for everyone. Unfortunately there are some bastards Grin but if you stop seeing it as "rare" to find a good man, then you won't be as gutted when someone comes along who is a perfectly good man but isn't a good match for you - you'll just think "Oh well. I'll find my match one day."

The other vitally important thing as BrandyButter says is to start looking inside for your sense of self worth. What makes you tick? Find something which makes you feel good about yourself, and do more of it. Get into a hobby or project, make plans for your future. Don't sit around and feel sad because you don't have someone to make plans with - make them for yourself! You can always change them if someone happens to come along - but if they're right for you, it's likely that your plans will go together quite nicely anyway. In any case the right partner wouldn't expect you to change your life plan for them.

The nice thing about all of this too is that you'll be so busy with all of your own things that you won't even want to bother with the timewasters, or people who you don't click with properly at first. You'll be more interested in getting on with your own stuff, so you are much less likely to end up in crappy relationships.

SummerDad · 14/12/2012 21:31

BertieBotts I absolutely agree with you. While reading your post, I was feeling as if someone with excellent psychic abilities is telling me about my past and future Smile

But, it is really hard to change what you long for, may be our lot is psychologically more dependent.

SummerDad · 14/12/2012 21:33

Who knows, a toad could be the real princess charming waiting for a kiss grin

Sorry, it was meant to be prince charming Blush

InNeedOfBrandyButter · 14/12/2012 21:40

Yes a relationship is not the be all and end all. There are billions of men in the world why would you want anyone just to fill the fairy tale. The right man will come along and I say this as a forever been single person. I understand the whole I don't have anyone to spend christmas with but my sisters have their long term boyfriends, who will I go to this wedding with angst but I firmly believe being single is a good thing and it will take a very very special man to make me think otherwise.

Statistically single women are happier then married women, where as married men are happier then single men...

ladyWordy · 14/12/2012 22:08

Hmm, well look out if you want a fairytale! because abusing and cheating men are very, very good at playing Prince Charming, Mr Great Guy, Mr Big Romance and whatever else romantic women have set their hearts on.

They make you feel special, they tell you they've never met anyone like you, they swear they want you forever, and any other absolute raving tosh they can dream up that will get you in their life and under their control as fast as possible :(

Maybe it's worth thinking about the qualities you want in a partner, then if some stunning character shimmers into your life, you will be able to pause for a second and ask - what kind of person is this? Before you get swept away in how gorgeous they are, how they make you feel etc. Not so exciting but worth a try?

Good luck with finding a good one - don't give up (guys or girls :))

ladyWordy · 14/12/2012 22:19

The above wasn't meant as a criticism, as so many of us have been there or been close

superstarheartbreaker · 15/12/2012 10:36

I agree lady etc which makes me feel I am up against it. I am fairly happy being single until I start fancying someone.

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