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So worried I feel sick

48 replies

ExiledGuru · 12/11/2012 15:30

I am at my wits end.

My relationship has been getting steadily worse over the last few months and become increasingly violent. I work full time and bring in all the money for the household whilst my DH ?looks after? the kids and runs the household. He is a total control freak. On the first of every month he makes me transfer virtually all my money into his account, which he then decides what to do with. Most of the money goes into savings accounts in his name, some of it goes to living expenses, and I get left with a maximum of £100 a month for me. When he decides he needs/wants something he just goes out and buys it, whereas for even the most simple of things like petrol for the car I have to beg for every penny. Further more once he has put the money aside he wants there is never enough left over to run the house. There is not enough food for me and the kids, and it breaks my heart in the morning when I have to explain to my son that he can?t have cereal for breakfast because there is no milk, nor toast because we have no bread, but would he take an apple instead? We live up north and as it gets increasingly cold I ask time and again to put the heating on just for a little while, only for him to insist that it costs too much and so no. I can?t stand seeing my two children freezing cold when I get home for work and my two year old daughters feet are so cold it?s as if she has been stuck in the freezer.

To make matters worse my partner has no problems with in his opinion ?the odd punch? to my arm or leg in effort to reinforce his views on a subject. I?ve been so stressed at work lately, and look likely to lose my job in a year or so, something for which he blames me entirely for and never passes up an opportunity to remind me of. The other day when I was on the sofa, I said something which he took offence to, to which his response was to kneel on my chest and force the air out of my lungs. He then grabbed my hands and twisted them in an effort to make me ?say sorry?. I didn?t respond at all, but just felt so incredibly frustrated that this was my lot in life.

Later that evening, the temperature was set to drop to below zero, so I quietly popped the central heating on for the first time this year. He heard me and so switched it straight back off again. We did this several times, until everything ? work, money, his spite got too much more me and I pushed him away from the central heating button. He fell over and hurt himself, but then got up and a minute later was trying to switch it off again. I was still so angry I pushed him over a second time and then ran downstairs. He decided that the best thing to do was to call the police, and the end result was that I spent 4 hours detained in a cell and being questioned for assault. I feel so ashamed of myself, but just can?t bear living like this any longer. He has now taken the fact that I pushed him over as evidence that I can?t be trusted with my two children and is trying to stop me spending any time with them.

I still have to go to work, whilst trying to think about all this ? and all because he wouldn?t let me turn heating on. I have no life, work is awful but I keep going because it is the only income my family has, and don?t want to go home, because he ?controls? the house and has made it into a place of torment for me. I have no money, because he has put it in his accounts, and he doesn?t leave me with enough to do or buy extra food or things for our kids.

My only options are to put up with him and endure this continued misery or quit my job and try and take my children away from him, but I can?t even contemplate how?d I survive as a single parent with no job or even savings in my name.

PLEASE help me.

OP posts:
ErikNorseman · 12/11/2012 16:55

He's massively abusive and you can't reason him into stopping. Don't even bother. Call women's aid from work and find out your position. I suspect you could just make him leave, but you will need a safety plan for the children as he could argue he is the main carer. You need him OUT and you and the kids IN. I'd be tempted to look into benefits and see what would happen if you quit your job and stayed home for a while, just to cement your position as main carer.

HaveToWearHeels · 12/11/2012 16:56

Fantastic that the tenancy is in your name. I think that means you can ask him to leave.

mumblechum1 · 12/11/2012 16:59

Havetowear unfortunately, he does have the right to occupy under the Matrimonial Homes Act, however that can be trumped by an occupation order (type of injunction which forces him out of the house for posing a threat of violence).

MrsTomHardy · 12/11/2012 17:04

Im sure if he's not on the tenancy then you can throw him out....he has no right to enter without your permission.

If he does leave DO NOT have him in the house to see any dc's.....good luck

mumblechum1 · 12/11/2012 17:22

Mrs Tom, if they weren't married, you'd be right, but as I mentioned above, he does have a prima facie right of occupation under the Matrimonial Homes Act.

AllOverIt · 12/11/2012 17:29

No wise words to add to all the fab advice on here already, but didn't want to read and run.

This is NOT your lot in life. You all deserve better than this. You hold a lot of power as you earn, the tenancy is in your name.

Thinking of you. Sad

Hatpin · 12/11/2012 17:31

I wouldn't bother discussing this with him, either. I think if he gets the idea that you have had enough and may be about to start taking some control back, he will start pulling everything out of the bag to stop you.

Instead, gather as much info as you can on your joint financial circumstances. Do you have access to his account statements? Does he ever go out of the house when you are home so you can look for them?

Don't forget that the savings in his account are joint savings that belong to you both. You have just as much right to decide how and when they are spent. You will also be able to use your share to buy your own home if you split.

I think you should see a solicitor asap to find out about what you can do to get him out.

Whatnowffs · 12/11/2012 17:35

I would say definately do NOT discuss anything with him but get some legal advice as soon as you can, you will get half an hours free consultation, also, phone women's aid who will be able to help you.

Am actually scared for you :(

ThatVikRinA22 · 12/11/2012 18:12

i think your partner is what the term "cocklodger" was invented for OP.

You need to stop this and now - you are allowing your children to be neglected. You need to seek legal advice immediately - i would also second phoning womens aid - they can also sign post you to local services that could help.

do you honestly think that if you just ask him to leave he will go? wake up - why would he do that - you do all the work while he gets to stay at home all day doing fuck all and takes all your money.

you need to wake up to this and fast. Why the hell would you put up with this or worse - make your children suffer from lack of food and warmth? This situation is disgraceful.

Call womens aid tonight. You seem to have no conception of how bad your situation actually is. i feel so sorry for your children. You need to act on it instead of passively sitting and accepting this as your "lot" - it doesnt have to be. But only you can change it.

JennyPiccolo · 12/11/2012 18:43

Tell your mum, but make sure she doesn't go shouting the odds at him. You need to keep him thinking everything is normal till you make your next move. You could use the support. She will be glad you told her, just as you'd be glad if your dd was in this situation. You need some real life support.

HaveToWearHeels · 12/11/2012 18:50

thanks mumble I thought that only applied to mortgaged houses, interesting from a landlords point of view. So what would happen if husband holds the tenancy and wife lives there and husband leaves. How would you get wife out without her being on the tenancy ?

HaveToWearHeels · 12/11/2012 18:53

Exciled find any details of his bank accounts and what they contain, also any pensions he has, take copies if you can, or a good photo if you do not want to remove from the house. As his wife you are entitled to half, maybe more.

Blu · 12/11/2012 19:28

come December 1st when I didn't put all my money into his accounts he'd know I was planning something and would probably either force me to do it, or just take all the savings we currently have and the children and leave

Not if you had gone with the children on Nov 30th and then your salary went into your account on Dec 1st for you to use!

But take mumblechum's advice and get legal help. (I believe she is a solicitor, she knows what she is talking about) .

And absolutley do not feel ashamed to get help.

You know that his whole operation is designed to cut you off from help of all kinds? He is extremely emotionally abusive as well as violent, and in the way emotional abuse isolates women and takes away their self determination and self respect and all the strength they might use to flee a violent man, potentially even worse than violence alone.

Google emotional abuse. You may find what you see frighteningly familiar.

You need to egt out and get your kids out with you.

Take care EG, and good luck.

SlightlyJaded · 12/11/2012 19:38

Nothing of any value to add - so many wiser and more knowledgeable posters have said it better, but absolutely, legal advice and leave.

Can it be worse that your children being cold and hungry?

No?

Exactly

Good luck x

Spice17 · 12/11/2012 20:34

This is just terribly sad for you and your children and I'm just Shock

Please tell your Mum and get some RL support and call Womens Aid.

You can escape this misery and give yourself and your children a happier future.

Take care.

dibs78 · 12/11/2012 23:12

OP....don't underestimate how strong you are!! You have survived this awful situation so far- you can escape it and start again with your dc Tell your mum, ask for help and take it. You are already supporting your children, you are a string woman by the sounds of it and your life will be so much better once you are free of this man. I am sending hugs and positive vibes your way. You deserve so much more than this and so do your dc's. Good luck love x

Teabagtights · 12/11/2012 23:14

You have options. You tell payroll to change the bank account. You source child care and you fuck him off. You have no life and its no way to live. It's not good for your children either.

sparrowfart · 12/11/2012 23:25

Do EVERYTHING you can to get yourself and your babies out. There are countless organisations that can help you. Little babies with no proper breakfast? Cold feet? Heartbreaking. Get yourselves out and forge a happy life for all of you. Urgently. Good Luck, take the plunge, that's the hardest bit. x.

Meggles76 · 13/11/2012 06:42

We often think of domestic abuse as being physical violence but it runs far deeper than that as your situation shows. Partner abuse is about power and control. He is exercising this through being financially abusive, emotionally abusive and physically abusive. It is wrong.
In the middle of all of this are the children. They are suffering neglect because of his behaviour. Also what kind of example does this set them about how a healthy adult relationship should be.
As others have said, contact womens aid for advice. The citizens advice bureau will be able to support you with regards to financial matters and your tenancy. See if you can speak to your local police domestic violence unit and please report all future abuse.
Good luck .

BraaaaaainsButterfield · 13/11/2012 06:52

Look at it this way - how DARE he call the police on you? How DARE he? If he thinks a woman, at the very end of her tether due to his actions, pushing him away is an offence worthy of being locked up for, how DARE he hit you? You earn all the money - how DARE he let your children go cold and hungry? My blood is boiling just reading about this utter, utter waste of space.

PiedWagtail · 13/11/2012 12:31

Your poor poor children. How can you not see that this is an incredibly sad and horrible way to live??? If my dh treated my children like this I'd be out of the door, never mind treating you the way your dh does. Change the locks, change your bank accounts, spend YOUR money on YOU and the children and GET RID OF HIM.

izzyizin · 13/11/2012 13:37

How was it left with the police and how did you feel you were treated by them? Did you feel that your account was listened to or did they give you the impression that they believed him? Were any of the officers who dealt with your case specialist dv officers or were you at any time offered a referral to your police force's dv unit?

It seems to me that your odious h has had far too much time on his hands since he became a control freak sahp and in calling the police on you, I'm wondering whether he's attempting to set you up in some way to ensure that you're further disenfranchised from your home and money and also from your dc.

I suspect your h may have done some research on t'internet to further his aims and ambitions. If he has access to a home computer I suggest you check the history asap.

If he has access to any computer/phone that you use to log into mumsnet, I also suggest you take steps to ensure your mumsnet and email accounts are protected by a change of password and take the precaution of deleting your history every time you leave this site.

Although the tenancy is in your sole name, you are best advised not to change the locks or otherwise attempt to prevent him from entering/staying in the property until you are in possession of an occupation Order which will give the police the power to remove him if he does not agree to voluntarily move out.

Please be careful, honey, and keep posting here so that we can suggest solutions that will enable you to get the best possible outcome from this awful situation you've found yourself in.

dreamingbohemian · 13/11/2012 13:47

I'm really sorry you're in this terrible situation with this vile man, but I'm going to be a bit harsh and beg you to wake up and do everything you can to get out of this situation.

You are the only one earning the money, you are the only one on the lease, you have potential family support, and yet your children are going cold and hungry. I'm sorry but that is pretty messed up. You have a lot of options to get out of this situation. Do NOT bother talking to him again, are you serious? Talk to 1) Women's Aid, 2) a solicitor, 3) your mum. Be careful. If he knows what you are up to he will probably get worse.

Please put your children first and get a move on.

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