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Need a kick up the bum :(

38 replies

NameChange1209 · 12/09/2012 16:42

29, married 3 years, together for a good bit longer. Sex life brilliant to start with but has tailed off dramatically - some months we do it around the time I ovulate as we're supposedly trying for our first baby, but that's it, and it's always at my instigation. Tried to talk about it, he's refused to read the books, refused counselling.

He is affectionate, but not passionate. This is despite my best efforts. We spend time together, I compliment him, shave my legs & wear nice pants. I haven't felt desirable in a long time. Apart from this he is a great husband, but it is a bit like living with a really close friend. The lack of sex and passion makes me feel shitty. I can't count the number of nights I've laid in bed next to my husband having tried it on with him only to be knocked back with yet another bullshit excuse.

A new man recently started on my team. He is a very sexy man. About 2 weeks ago at a work social occasion, this man kissed me. I pushed him away, very cross, and told my husband that someone kissed me, although not who, as my husband works for the same company. Husband, tbh, didn't seem massively bothered. On good days I think that's because he trusts me. On bad days...

Since then, I have seen this man in a whole new light. Then a series of messages that were legitimately about work became rather more suggestive. Suggestive but not explicit. I was turned on by it. Felt myself making excuses to brush past him, spend more time together. Knew he was doing the same, and I loved how it felt. Felt like a giddy teenager realising the class heartthrob fancied her too.

Then I shook out of it. Stopped the messages, physically distanced myself. No lines were crossed, from an outside point of view, but I knew in my heart I had been doing something wrong. He hasn't pushed the issue, for which I am grateful. But I feel like that same teenager has just been dumped by the class heartthrob. I am gutted, so sad. Miss the attention. Miss the little smiles.

Need a kick up the bum. Thanks for reading.

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Opentooffers · 13/09/2012 22:01

Jesus Namechange, you are storing up trouble for yourself and your DH in the future if you don't sort this out one way or the other. Partly, because IMO a woman's sex drive increases in her 30's-40's. Maybe something to do with the body-clock shouting "it's your last chance", even if you don't want to reproduce anymore. It's bloody fantastic though, but you will find it even harder.
Strange that your sex life was good at the start.
An empty browser hx could mean many things, from innocent with OCD, to porn or dating sites, but you only get to find out the issues by asking the right questions. Acceptance and allowing him to be silent because he is a "poor communicator" is not a good option.
If he won't talk, won't accept councelling, how about a sharp shock. You could ask him how he would feel about you having an open relationship? (that's not the same as saying you want one, you may provoke some answers to the problem though)

Toastwithatwist · 13/09/2012 22:03

I was married to a kind, funny, caring man who I still love very much. Now I'm not married, and I'm seeing a kind, funny, caring man and we have sex. It's chuffing brilliant. My ex is truly one of my very best friends - but that was all we were. We weren't husband and wife. And calling time on the relationship when we did meant we've never fallen out, or been bitter. I think the lack of physical intimacy was a symptom of problems at first - then it became a problem in its own right. Is life now 'Disney'? No. In some ways its harder - but I no longer feel trapped, unwanted and guilty for wanting to be wanted. I'm not just saying leave, but please don't think life has to shrink to exclude parts of who you are.

NameChange1209 · 14/09/2012 11:15

I have to say that I am honestly surprised by the responses on here. I've spent the last few years convincing myself that it's no big deal and I'm being a bit of a spoilt brat with unrealistic expectations. The replies I've seen have given me food for thought.

Open - yes our sex life started off brilliantly. Strangely I think I could tell you the exact weekend it started going off the boil, it was my birthday and my parents were staying with us for the first time. He wouldn't have sex with me that night, then it was 3 weeks before we did it again where until then it was happening 3 times a week, maybe more.

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Toastwithatwist · 14/09/2012 12:26

In the last 2 years of my marriage we had sex twice. Our wedding anniversary and his birthday(welcome to our cliched lives...). Not at all in the final 18 months. I tried seducing him, talking abut it, not talking about it, dressing up, talking dirty, being gently affectionate, being subtle, being direct - nothing worked. I didn't realise how much a sex life mattered to me, nor how much damage was done to my self esteem. I am still slightly gobsmacked that anyone would have sex with me - it feels wonderful though.

NameChange1209 · 14/09/2012 13:47

toast that all sounds so depressingly familiar. I was talking to friends about it and mentioned that we had been having a nice day off together, when I.suggested he and I.go.to bed. He looked at me like I had 2 heads. My friends said "but of course he did, you just brought that up out of the blue". They don't understand that I have tried being subtle, I have tried kissing him and hoping he'll take it further, and all the rest. Nobody in the real world gets it. They've also said 'but you have a high sex drive.' FFS, wanting it more than once a month (if lucky) isn't a symptom of raging nymphomania!!

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NameChange1209 · 14/09/2012 13:54

I am glad there is no bitterness between you and your ex husband, by the way, but I can't imagine my husband being so accepting. He loves me, I know he does, he tells me all the time & shows me in so many non-sexual ways.

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NameChange1209 · 14/09/2012 13:55

I am here almost crying that there seems to be so little hope.

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Toastwithatwist · 14/09/2012 16:24

My husband loved me too Namechange. While we did reach the overall decision to separate together, if I hadn't started the conversation, we'd still be where we were, only 14 months further on, most likely still not having had sex. Or even a snog. God, how I missed snogging. Yet he would be sad if didn't hold his hand (I'm not overtly tactile, I need reminding sometimes or I would never hold hands with anyone!). We hugged every day, and never lost the ability to make each other laugh. I don't know if me sharing my story helps or not, I just wanted to let you know that yo're not alone, you're not greedy or asking for too much, and you don't
have to just accept things the way they are. I just don't know the answer and for that I am very sorry.

Toastwithatwist · 14/09/2012 16:25

I.suggested he and I.go.to bed. He looked at me like I had 2 heads. My friends said "but of course he did, you just brought that up out of the blue".

How often do men look at women with two heads if they 'out of the blue' suggest going to bed?!

Toastwithatwist · 14/09/2012 16:27

(or vice versa - although I accept I'm a bit like a child in a sweet shop at the moment)

NameChange1209 · 14/09/2012 18:19

Tbh I kind of believe now that most men would be Hmm at being propositioned like that.

My friends are of the opinion that this is no big deal I think.

It has got worse. A few years ago we were having sex once every three weeks. Now it's once every 5 weeks. How long before it's twice a year? We didn't have sex on his birthday, my birthday or our anniversary this year.

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Darkesteyeswithflecksofgold · 14/09/2012 20:01

I wrote this for another site after getting into conversation about reasons for infidelity with the lady who runs the site on Twitter.

www.moresexdaily.com/guest_sexperts/infidelity-is-not-always-wrong-especially-when-your-spouse-hasnt-touched-you-for-years-and-he-refuses-to-go-to-counselling-one-reader-tells-her-story/

maleview70 · 14/09/2012 22:52

I think open marriages would be the saviour of many a marriage if people were able to accept them without jealousy.

It willl end in an affair if you carry on like this. If you don't have kids then there are plenty of other men who can be as nice as your hubby but with sex thrown in.

Only you can decide what's right for you.

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