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Arguments with ExDP about housework (sorry v long...)

23 replies

JemimaPuddlefuck · 01/09/2012 23:01

My ExDP is constantly on my back regarding the tidiness of my flat. He is always berating me about toys being left on the living room floor, the dishes not being done IMMEDIATELY etc. He does things like picking up bits from the floor (like a bit of fluff) and waving it around in my face berating me that it is something our 15 month old DS could put in his mouth and choke on (and its always something that is totally harmless, like a tiny bit of bread from a snack earlier that day).

Last night a massive argument erupted about it. After I had cooked him dinner (he was visiting our son and thought it would be nice for him for us all to have a meal together), I then did the dishes whilst ExDP put DS to bed. I cleaned the worktops etc. Well it turns out I accidently left some plates on the dinner table and he went ape shit saying that this was typical of my half arsed attitude to everything in life and that I never do anything right. He said that my attitude was appalling.

I pointed out to him that he can of course help out with the cleaning etc, that I do tidy up and do masses of chores everyday on top of looking after a very active DS and that it is not easy. I also told him that he was being bang out of order, that I work hard and can only do my best. Most days I have'nt had 5 minutes to myself until I sit down in the evening after DS is in bed, so often the dishes from teatime don't get done by the morning but personally I don't see the problem with this. DS has been having difficulties getting down to sleep lately, so by the time he is finally down, sometimes not until 10pm, the last thing I want to do is the dishes and instead just crash on the sofa before going off to bed. . The flat never gets to a state where its unclean or unhealthy to live in.

I've asked ExDP to help with chores, which he does occasionally but not without making a big song and dance out of it. His argument is always that it is not his house so not his responsibility but has no qualms about having a go at me if its not as tidy as he thinks it should be.

He got into such a state that he picked up a saucepan that was on one of the counters (we were in the kitchen) and threw it on the floor not far from where DS was sitting, who started crying. I shouted at EXDP to never do that again in front of our son.

Today I told him that I did not like the way he had spoken to me. He said that he did'nt regret any of it.

I'm very annoyed by his attitude, I always feel like I have to justify my role as the mother of his child and what I do during the day. He does not seem to accept how tiring etc it is looking after a toddler. I also feel like I should not have to put up with this kind of behaviour anymore bearing in mind we are no longer in a relationship. He likes to visit DS several times a week and at weekends and I have put up with this out of a belief that it is good for my son to have a good, close relationship with his dad, but after this weekend I feel like I really need to restrict EXDP visiting. I also told him if he did;nt like my flat he could always get himself somewhere where he can take DS (at the moment he still lives in a shared house).

I'd like to know if any of you have any thoughts/advice on this. Cheers xxxx

OP posts:
AbigailAdams · 01/09/2012 23:04

Tell him to fuck off. Then detach, detach, detach. Stop listening, stop responding to his outbursts, stop cooking him meals, stop allowing him in your flat.

charlottehere · 01/09/2012 23:06

Do not let him in your flat/ What a cheek!

AbigailAdams · 01/09/2012 23:06

He is your ex. Give yourself permission to ignore the nincompoop.

2712 · 01/09/2012 23:07

Don't let him over the doorstep.
He sounds a real joy to be around.

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 01/09/2012 23:08

He is your ex. Don't engage, and don't let him into your house!

It sounds as if you are still behaving as a couple, which isn't going to help any of you get used to the current situation. If you are letting him have contact in your home, he hasn't got much impetus to find himself a flat where he can have his son has he?

WillowTheWhispers · 01/09/2012 23:11

OP this reads as though you are still together. this is the kind of controlling behaviour that causes the separation but it seems that he is still being controlling even though you have separated. By allowing him to come round because he likes to and play happily families you are enabling this behaviour. My advise would be to put a stop to his having contact in your home immediately. Either use the home of a third party - your family, close friend? or use a contact centre. doesnt matter if doing this will make him angry, make him cross with you, make him kick off or even if he says he will only see the DC if its at your home. You need to be firm, get a solicitor to put it in writing if you will feel stronger that way and then dont have contact with him unless it s a calm reasoned conversation and if poss stick to text or email rather than face to face or over the phone.

As an ex who is clearly displaying controlling tendancies and scaring your DC he should not be coming round willy nilly, he should not be eating meals with you and he should not be doing chores. He should be arriving at a third parties house where you have already dropped DC, spending time with them and then leaving. His behaviour shows that its damaging for you and DC if he is allowed to continue in this manner. Time to take control of this situation now before it spirals. You are the primary carer, you are in control of this.

A partner doesnt have the right to speak to you in the way he is, no-one does. Enough is enough.

Shellywelly1973 · 01/09/2012 23:14

Its time to make alternative arrangements.

Either at a family members house or arrange to meet in public, or if all else fails a contact centre.

He's your ex, you don't need to put up with this behaviour. If he cant control himself round your ds, then he def needs to be supervised.

Don't let him control you, as Abigail said, tell him to fuck off. He will take the piss and treat you and your ds like this if you let him...DON'T!!

Good luck & take care...

Anniegetyourgun · 01/09/2012 23:16

Where does this idiot get off coming into your house and telling you off about the housework? Unless and until it gets to genuinely unsafe conditions for a baby it's none of his business. It's your plates on your table in your home. I also don't get this sitting down for a nice family meal with a bully you quite rightly don't live with any more. You don't want to go making someone like that feel at home, otherwise he'll mistake it for somewhere he has a right to be. It's like vampires. Never invite them over the threshold or they'll be in there night after night, making merry on your blood. Which is pretty much what your ex, remember EX, is still doing.

clam · 01/09/2012 23:21

Your mistake here was trying to explain/justify your actions. None of his bloody business how you run your flat.
I would have just said " I think what you're trying to say is 'thank you very much for cooking dinner.' Now I think it's time you went."

And next time, don't let him over the doorstep.

cestlavielife · 02/09/2012 00:30

It is clear why he is your ex.
It is not clear why you have him n your house and ask him to do chores. Stop. Now.
He threw something at your ds. This can be the catalyst if you like . So from today he no longer visits ds in your house. Ds needs to grow up knOwing you are not together and he sees dad elsewhere.

It is up to him to arrange accommodation where ds can visit or you arrange contact n contact centre or third party friends or family.

Separating is so you don't have to put withy uh cr&p.

I also made mistake of allowing ex to visit kids in our new place . It went very wrong and was a massive mistake.

StuntGirl · 02/09/2012 01:17

The easy solution is to stop him coming in your house. He doesn't have to be in your house for any reason, ever. If he's not there he can't comment on the state of it can he! Time to make other arrangements for visitation.

OpheliasWeepingWillow · 02/09/2012 01:31

Why the hell are your letting him in your house?
Meet in a cafe or something where he can shout at the waitress and get spit in his tea for his trouble.

Can't believe you are even asking about this. No wonder he's your ex.

tallwivglasses · 02/09/2012 01:44

Nothing more to add except KEEP THiS CONTROLLING CUNT AWAY FROM YOUR HOUSE!

Bossybritches22 · 02/09/2012 02:07

whattall said

NorksAreMessy · 02/09/2012 07:47
Shock

What an appalling man!
Please don't let him back into the flat
Keep the flat in EXACTLY the state that YOU are comfortable with, no more no less.

He threw a saucepan! FAAAAAAR worse than a tiny bit of fluff on the carpet.

Deta ch and ignore. The man is an idiot, and a nasty one at that.

OneOfMyTurnsComingOn · 02/09/2012 07:51

He is your ex. I wouldn't have him in the flat at all. And never did let my ex over the doorstep.

Your life is nothing to do with him now. Just the well being of your DC. Which doesn't include bits of fluff or the odd plate to wash up!

vezzie · 02/09/2012 07:54

Interesting that he lives in a shared house where he feels he can't take his child - I would like to see the state of it.
As everyone else says, don't have him in your house, don't cook for him.
If he says "I have nowhere else to see the child" say "you will have to make a place to see him. I have made our home here and I am very proud of it, what have you done to make a safe calm place in which to be a father?"

Funnylittleturkishdelight · 02/09/2012 07:57

Great advice from vezzie.

What are his parents like? Could the visit take place there?

Hesterton · 02/09/2012 08:04

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JemimaPuddlefuck · 02/09/2012 20:23

Hi, thanks for all your comments. I think your right and I should just tell him to fuck right off and not let him in the house anymore. I've not spoken to him today about this, but I'm sure he won't be happy about it. He pretty much just pops round at his fancy. Like Hesterton said, I've been allowing him regular access out of the best intentions for my son but his behaviour and the effect it has on me and my DS is not positive, so it is not worth it. Hopefully, I'll be able to establish better boundaries this way and get a bit of respect off him. I'm at the stage where I'm completely fed up with his attitude so already feel a bit more in charge.

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RabidAnchovy · 02/09/2012 20:38

Personally I would not let him in my home.

Hesterton · 02/09/2012 21:01

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Nobhead · 02/09/2012 21:07

OP why the fuck do you feel like you have to explain why you haven't done this or that in YOUR OWN house?
Stop the inpromptu visits.
Stop the cooking for the twat.
Stop stop stop. Angry
If he wants to see his son then he needs to find somewhere else to do it and I'd be supervising them too given his charming pot throwing incident.
Jesus H Christ if that were me he'd have been told to get to the furthest end of fuck and shown the door faster than he could blink. What a prized cunt!

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