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So what should a new relationship feel like? Any good book recommendations?

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BoundaryIssues · 05/08/2012 21:46

I have just been reading ItsOdds thread about her relationship and 'red flags' that she 'should' have noticed / acted on etc. It has made me realise that I probably have no idea about how a new relationship should feel / be.

I have spent most of my life in a long and what I considered 'good' relationship, and so always imagined that I know exactly what a good relationship is and should be.

BUT, looking back, the start of that relationship was a bit fucked up. He was in a relationship and I was the OW. It was all very messy and unpleasant. However I have put this down to being so young when we met, and never really thought about it (until the last few years when we broke up due to infidelity - karma is a bitch eh!). My ex would lie to me casually about money / women etc etc for most of our relationship. But I justified that to myself as 'well this is normal, all my girlfriends moan about their lying men too, don't men just lie as standard to make their lives easier'.

I only had one 'relationship' before that, and that only lasted 3 months, and we were in the 6th form, so again it's not something that I ever give any thought to. But having read the red flag thread, I can look back on that and realise that he was emotionally abusive, and that when he dumped me that I would have taken any amount of shit to 'keep him'.

I have been divorced for several years now, with no relationships, but have recently got involved with someone (it's now over). BUT, he had a girlfriend (but the usual bullshit story of how they were nearly broken up etc etc). And so that 'relationship' has been full of cheating / guilt etc. Also he had red flags waving all over him in terms of stuff he said, his attitude towards women, his sexual behaviour etc etc. But again, I was just accepting that as somehow normal, and justifying it all to myself. I was actively in denial about the red flag things, and would think 'hmmm, that's probably a bad sign, but I'll just ignore it and concentrate on the good stuff' on more than one occasion.

So having read ItsOdd's thread, I have had a blinding realisation that I have never had a relationship start without tons of pain / angst / deceit etc etc.

My childhood was not a heap of fun, domestic violence, infidelity, divorce and then some. So I don't have any early childhood experience of happy marriage.

Can anyone recommend any useful books on what relationships SHOULD be like. Or are all new relationships full of angst and 'does he like me' type anxiety and stress?

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SoleSource · 05/08/2012 22:53

You are in luck. I have just written a self help book entitled Do NOT Bother Men Are All Cunts.

PissyDust · 05/08/2012 22:57

Sole you beat me to it Grin

Op you would probably be stronger if you read some books about recovery tbh.

startingovernow · 05/08/2012 22:57

Hi, I'm rushing out the door but just saw your post & an highly recommend 'Getting the Love you Want' by Harville Hendrix. I'm a bit of a book junkie & have had the dysfunctional childhood/relationships etc. Of all the books I have read on relationships I think this is the best one for helping you to see & break the cycle of dysfunction. Feel free to ask me more if you wish, I'll check back tomorrow.

Good luck in the future & I wish you all the happiness in your future relationships. It can be done, I have moved on & found happiness. X

BertieBotts · 05/08/2012 22:59

There's a great blog/website called www.baggagereclaim.co.uk which has really good, insightful articles on what to expect from normal/healthy relationships as well as red flag type things and also how to change your own behaviour and deal with issues etc. The author has written a book too but I don't know if it's about that specific issue, though it might be helpful? I don't know.

I love her though, she writes so inspiringly! I've signed up to the facebook updates too.

BertieBotts · 05/08/2012 22:59

www.baggagereclaim.co.uk

(in case anyone's on a phone)

BertieBotts · 05/08/2012 23:03

Oh yeah, also it might be worth looking into something like the freedom programme or Women's Aid's pattern changing course? They can both help teach you about healthy relationships and what to expect as well as helping you deal with old issues from past relationships.

CogitoErgOlympics · 06/08/2012 10:52

"Can anyone recommend any useful books on what relationships SHOULD be like"

I don't know any books. But do you have friends? Do you feel anxiety and stress with them? Do you experience 'pain, angst and deceit'? Do they let you down, make you unhappy or lie to you? I'd be very surprised if you said 'yes'.

That's my template for a good relationship. Base requirement is someone who likes and respects you, with whom you can be yourself, and who makes you feel good in their company... and vice versa. In short, a friend. Chuck in a frisson of sexual excitement &a few romantic gestures and you've got a boyfriend.

I know it's not a good relationship when either I'm acting out of character or they are trying to make me compromise. We all make an effort for new people but if it's becomes too much of an effort or I start to feel that I can't do what I want, when I want, I know I'm being manipulated.

Muststudy · 06/08/2012 11:25

No books, but I hope you get into a relationship that you deserve.

I'm in the middle of pushing away my husband/being cold/constantly in a mood. So maybe also a book to stop the dysfunction once you are settled?! I am looking and have read The Marriage Rules and it's not working!!

So I do recommend that you deal with your issues first otherwise they will just creep up in the relationship later and F the one sacred perfect relationship left in your life!! Sigh.

BoundaryIssues · 06/08/2012 11:39

Thanks everyone, will have a look at that website Bertie and am off to the library later to see about your book rec startingover. You are totally right Cogito, my friendships have none of the negatives. I did have a good relationship for a lot of my long marriage, so I guess I need to look for that again, and if I find myself making big compromises within the first few weeks I will have the self knowledge to walk away earlier.

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BoundaryIssues · 06/08/2012 11:41

You are totally right muststudy. I wish I could go back to my marriage when things were good and change my behaviour when it started going bad! Sigh indeed :( I hope you can turn things around.

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BoundaryIssues · 06/08/2012 11:50

Bertie am just looking at baggagereclaim on one of her articles about red flags. My recent 'relationship' ticked 4 - 'anger and aggression', 'playing the victim', 'attached to someone else' and 'not over the ex'. Blimey!!!

If I ever meet someone again I will come back and read through the list and have a serious word with myself!
Looks like an excellent site, thanks again.

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