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Domestic Violence Next Door...

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BreadAndJamForFrances · 03/08/2012 10:07

Young couple next door living with his father and mother who doesn't live there, but spends most days at the house. They have violent rows at least 3-4 times a week, in and out of the house, up and down the street, screaming shouting and hitting out at each other. Father gets involved the with shouting/swearing at them, son in particular and son and father have rows/fights too. A lot of it seems to be cannabis induced (I think there are other drugs involved too, but can't be certain).
I don't feel able to call the police during an episode, as it would be obvious who has reported them and it is already pretty awful living next door to them. However, I am moving next week, and I am wondering if I could make an anonymous report to the police so that they are aware of the violence in the household, but am wondering if the police would be able to act, or if they would just think I was being a nosy neighbour? (If there were children involved, I wouldn't hesitate for a second)

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CogitoErgOlympics · 03/08/2012 10:11

Call the police. If you're moving and they're already horrible to live next to, I don't see how reporting the violence would make your own situation worse. You say 'street' which suggests several properties. Why would they know it was you?

BreadAndJamForFrances · 03/08/2012 11:42

They'd know it was me because we are in semi-detached houses, the house the other side isn't joined and doesn't have a permanent resident. They chase each other up and down the street.
I am the only person in the street to have reported another long-running incident (not involving this couple) and none of the people living in the street would make a comment when the police did a door-knock, even though several of them witnessed it/other similar events.
I am worried about reporting before I leave as I don't want myself and my children involved....it is bad enough that the children hear the rows, DD1 in particular finds it very upsetting.

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CogitoErgOlympics · 03/08/2012 11:46

You may be the only person willing to report and you may be the only person willing to comment to police but that is still not proof that you've done it this time. Morally, if you fear that someone in that house is in danger, you owe it to them to report.

BreadAndJamForFrances · 03/08/2012 11:53

I am morally so torn because I grew up in a domestic violence situation (my alcoholic father beat my mum, unprovoked) and I wish someone had reported him, but with these two it seems more a case of they get high/drunk/whatever and are equally nasty to each other....what I need to know is, if I report after an incident, or after I have moved, will the police be able to do anything....also, I am not a native of the area and have a strong accent and dealings with the local police, so pretty sure they will know how I am Confused

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MissFaversam · 03/08/2012 11:56

Is it a housing trust or council place? If so you can report it to them.

blackcatsdancing · 03/08/2012 12:07

my neighbour screams and shouts at her partner and i've heard things being chucked around, she also told me it was ok to hit men . I've never felt the need to report her but then I think with them its mostly verbal, plus no kids involved. Do you honestly feel either of them are in danger? Not sure what the police could do, at the moment seems they are being anti social. Also family close by had an incident where the father and (adult) son came to blows, as it was a one off incident that wasn't reported either.
To be honest i'd leave it and feel relief at moving away. If you do honestly believe that either is in danger that's another matter.

CogitoErgOlympics · 03/08/2012 12:07

If you explain to the police that you're ringing them in confidence and don't want to make your life difficult by being outed, they should respect that.

blackcatsdancing · 03/08/2012 12:12

i doubt the police would do anything, a visit to them at the most and they ( aggressive family) may put two and two together. Do you ever want to run into them again after that?

i'm sorry no one came to help you when younger. I think most people would report if there were children involved and the police and social services would definitely take a far greater interest than intervening with some twats who get high and abuse each other . Just not sure what they could be charged with.

BreadAndJamForFrances · 03/08/2012 12:14

Miss Faversam - the father owns the house.
blackcat - sounds like an almost identical situation!
Cogito - yes, you're right.

I suppose I feel guilty at hearing it and not reporting, but there are enough family around them to step in....her mum seems to visit fairly often too.

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blackcatsdancing · 03/08/2012 12:28

look at it this way, if kids were involved then reporting will have the effect of them being on the police and social services radar, they will be kept an eye on at the very least and there will be a record of it . If you report this the police may pay them a visit , they may even already know the family quite well, but just not sure what they could do. A visit from the police is not going to be enough to change their behaviour!

bobbledunk · 03/08/2012 16:34

That's the way some people argue, it would be different if one were violent and terrorising and attacking their partner but that's not the case here. They're not afraid of each other, they each scream and whack each other, as adults they are entitled to behave as they like in their own relationship. There is no victim here, nor any criminal, just some sad people taking their miseries out on each other, the rest of the time they probably get along just fine.

Leave the police to deal with real criminals that people need protecting from and leave your neighbours alone.

HighJumpingHissy · 03/08/2012 20:22

DV is taken more seriously now, the troubled families initiative too is very topical.

PLEASE call the police any and every time it kicks off, or you will see a forensics team and a private ambulance, or more if the kids get it too.

PLEASE don't sit there while another woman is beaten, you CAN do something now, you are not a child anymore. Think of those poor children within that hell!

HighJumpingHissy · 03/08/2012 20:25

Ahh, the children aren't theirs, they are yours.

All the more reason to show your children not to sit by when at the very least antisocial behaviour at worst domestic violence is taking place.

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