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DH away for months and I feel angry and scared about our marriage

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CommaChameleon · 02/08/2012 12:39

DH is in the armed forces and is away for the next few months, he left last weekend.

I miss him and I'm worried about him but I'm also feeling quite angry at him right now.

Before he left we were both a bit stressed and on edge, waiting for him to leave. It's always a difficult time, you try to be normal, try to cram in as much family time as possible, days out and trips to the park etc, DH does things around the house or with the car etc so he can feel that he has left us as prepared as possible, but all the time we know the deadline is looming and we are waiting for him to leave so sometimes it shows and instead we were a bit snappy with each other.

We've had problems with his parents for a long time now, I don't see them at all, DH sees them rarely. Because they knew he was going away they started to send messages asking/demanding to visit us and I think DH was worried they would turn up on the doorstep so in his last day at home he went to see them.

His parents are awful. They've spent his whole life bullying and manipulating him into thinking he and his siblings (DH is the youngest) are responsible for making them happy or causing them to have a mental breakdown and depression if they don't let their MIL have their own way.

They've tried to continue that throughout all the years we have been married and it's been hard but for most of the time I tried to tolerate them for DH's sake.

When we lost two babies to stillbirth and prematurity in the same year it nearly destroyed us. They witnessed our grief but I can't stay they really shared it, MIL was bullying me three days after our stillborn son was born demanding to know when we would be trying for another baby, asking for all the details of his birth, wondering allowed if it still hurts to give birth if your baby is already dead. At the time I was in a bubble of shock so it didn't really hit me until months later just how cruel she was being. She's had four children of her own, she must understand what giving birth is like for anyone.

When our daughter was born prematurely eleven months after we lost our son she survived for two hours before she died. MIL spent a lot of time telling me how my daughter does not count as their first granddaughter, why neither of my children are 'proper' grandchildren and how she obviously loves BIL's living children far more. When we finally had our DS, now age three, she started to make nasty comments about his brother and sister, ending with asking if our daughter was born with a whole face or not.

It was very distressing. DH did tackle them on it at the time but they are very good at manipulating him into believing it was our fault for being upset, that MIL spoke without thinking or that we misunderstood what she meant.

I made the decision to see less of them and in response they told lies about me to DH, to the rest of the family, stalked me with phone calls, letters and even following me in their car as I walked along the street. They would disown DH in one phone call and then weep in the next because he hadn't been to see them and deny they had every told him not to go.

They did their very best to destroy my marriage with their lies and accusations and so I stopped seeing them completely and refused to allow them to see DS either, after MIL tried to lift him off the floor as a nine month old by putting her hands around his neck. I'm scared of what she will say to him about his brother and sister and worried about how they will try to manipulate him as he grows older. I have also told PILs to stay away from our babies grave because of the things she has said about them. FIL supports her in everything she says and does to anyone else, even though he has also complained that he cannot cope with her stubbornness, controlling nature and need to have everything her own way.

Twice they almost succeeded in splitting us up because DH believed their lies and threatened not to come home. Once he had heard my side and realised they were lying he was sorry but on the second occasion they had pushed me too far and I was ill with what the doctor diagnosed as delayed grief related depression and panic attacks brought on by stress.

Anyway the point of telling you all of this is that when DH went to see them he was late back, only by just over half an hour but enough to worry me as the last time he saw them they upset him so much he just drove about for ages afterwards in a temper, trying to calm down instead of coming home.

He knew I was upset when he got back but apparently this visit had gone quite well so he told me that by worrying I was just making up trouble in my own head and it wasn't their fault, it was mine. And it probably was but I think they've given me plenty of reasons to worry about what goes on when they get the chance to speak to DH.

We had a small but really horrible argument which we then sorted out. We were due to go out to the cemetery to leave flowers for our babies before DH went away. When we got there we realised they had been before us, thrown away the flowers and left something else instead, something the cemetery ask people not to leave as they can encourage theft or vandalism, and which had marked the marble stone and was very difficult to clean off.

I feel it was a very deliberate thing to do, mostly done to make sure we knew it was them and nobody else and it has shaken me a lot. DH realised it was them straight away too but we very carefully didn't say anything about it because neither of us wanted another argument, especially not over our children's grave.

There were some other small things as well. Since all the trouble with them DH has been very quick to snap or sulk or take offence over nothing. He can even be annoyed by me reading a book because I am "ignoring him". I can say something just ordinary that he takes personally, snap at me and sulk about it and then if I challenge him he will deny it and say it's me causing trouble and that he was fine until I "just changed" and started to pick a fight.

I've started to feel really worn down by it all. I know it's not all him, like when he was late, but mostly he really does react like this over nothing, like me reading and 'ignoring him' or my not hearing something he said and asking him to repeat it (I am half deaf and having trouble with my good ear at the moment) especially if we are eating. He will say something and then put food in his mouth, I haven't heard and will ask him to say it again and he will be annoyed because he's chewing and thinks I've not heard him on purpose, so he will make a bit point of chewing and gesturing before snapping at me with whatever he said.

I'm not sure now if I feel so angry at him because he is away or because we didn't really talk or even fight about all the things before he went so they are festering a bit. He never used to be so angry at me so easily and if I could bring myself to see his parents again then I would do it for him because I know it hurts him even when they are so awful. But I am frightened of them and feel sick at the thought of being around them again.

But right now I feel angry at DH, angry at me, angry at them and although I love DH I know that more and more I really don't like him very much and I suspect he might feel the same about me sometimes.

And I know I need to talk about it but how, when he's away in a war zone for months now? It's not the sort of thing you can cram into a two minute Skype once a fortnight.

Not sure really what the point of posting is, just getting it out somewhere I suppose.

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Oogaballoo · 02/08/2012 12:53

I read this through twice and I honestly think that he's transferring all the anger he has towards them onto you instead. I don't know, but that's what his behaviour screams. For whatever reason he won't let himself be angry at them for their behaviour but will treat you badly with all the built up frustration instead. You should NOT have to deal with that and he being very unreasonable by acting in this way.

I find it pretty disturbing that despite what they do and how they act he still believed what they told him about you. That is so unfair.

CogitoErgOlympics · 02/08/2012 12:57

Only ask a man to choose between his wife and his parents if you're damn sure you'll get the right answer. I don't know if the fact that he spends a lot of time in war-zones means domestic issues seem trivial by comparison or he struggles with certain emotions. I don't know if he's simply got used to his family's behaviour over time and can't see why you're upset. Whatever the causes, you can't resolve this divided loyalty from a distance and I think it's going to take something like counselling to help you with everything, including the grief around your lost children.

ArtVandelay · 02/08/2012 13:00

That is awful of your PILs and I'm so sorry for your losses. You sound so strong but also very worn down by this constant negative influence.

My PILs are horrible and interfering and I think they really try to cause trouble with DH and I. I have ordered 'Toxic In-laws' by Dr Susan Forward, its meant to be really good, maybe something for you to try? The other think I do is in the middle of their comments and snotty looks is to think "you are old, probably not so long until you die and I'll still be here with your son and granchild" that reminds me that this won't be forever and also helps me to feel a little compassion for them given that they've wasted lots of their life falling out with relatives and sneering about others.

I'm sure others will have much better advice soon.

GnomeDePlume · 02/08/2012 13:09

Hi CommaChameleon

My relationship advice is good for nothing! However, I did want to suggest that you take a look in the Forces Sweetheart section of MN - you will find it under 'In the club'. I think that there you will find a lot of sympathy and supprt from partners with OHs away.

Your description of the stress of the last weeks building up to his departure will strike chords amongst people who are in the same situation. They will also be able to give you advice about how communication works and how best to use it.

Your PiL sound like dreadful people. Your DH has grown up with this and will have a lot of very confused feelings about them. I believe that there are some good books out there which can help to explain things. Toxic Parents is one I believe. Hopefully someone far more knowledgeable will come here soon and point you in the right direction there. While your DH is away doing some reading might help you to get some perspective for yourself and also start to arm you both.

I am so sorry for your losses. So hard to deal with that but then to have with PiL and also your DH being away and a small child as well. Your cup is running over with cares isnt it?

Houseofplain · 02/08/2012 13:11

Well two things. Pre tour bitching is normal. But secondly it does not sound like you actually like each other very much? I very much doubt I would in your position either.

His parents sound utterly toxic and he's not really helping the situation. You should be his priority at all times. He would chose his parents over you, does not sound to me like he's there for you at all.

Tbh, if he's skyping every 2 weeks. I'd doubt he's in the thick of it. War or no war. I'd tell him, if this were me. That I will be taking these months to think and upon his return he can move into blocks, whilst you discuss it.

What he's done is incredibly selfish you know....he's left all the burden with you. Knowing he gets to disappear for months and doesn't have to deal with it.

DuelingFanjo · 02/08/2012 13:19

hi there

I remember you posting about this before and have read through your old thread. Seems like you are unable to forgive your in-laws and you are expecting your DH to completely disown them?

Probably he felt so pressured into seeing them that he just caved in? I can understand why he might have and why it has upset you.

Do you have to have anything to do with them while he is away? I am sure your anger with him will lessen but maybe you need to sit down with him and agree on what his relationship with his parents is going to be in the future.

MissFaversam · 02/08/2012 14:24

OP, toxic mostly makes toxic again, has your DH had councilling about his past? Sounds like he's acting out the bad on you sweetheart.

CommaChameleon · 02/08/2012 15:30

I feel really worn out by it now and bad for even posting about it. I'm not sure if it was really a good idea, since I posted it I've just had a good cry.

I do love him and I know he loves me, just the whole awfulness of the situation with his parents, the stress of going away and even the loss of the babies, which he never lets himself talk about, just get too much for us both.

I did ask him about counselling once before and he didn't want to go, then he said he might go, but we live apart in the week anyway and he's been out of the country on and off for most of this year. I know I said he could Skype but even that is hit and miss, once a fortnight was just my idea of how often it might be and how it's not really going to help sort anything out.

I've only had one message since he's been there but it was just a short one that said he was there and was okay but his routine was all over the place.

I don't want him to totally disown his parents, but I know I'd feel better if he could ever be as angry at them as he sometimes seems to be at me. I do know that's hard and it's probably my issue to resolve, but he always seems so quietly accepting of the worst they can throw at him and yet can be so angry at me over almost nothing.

Thank you all for your post and advice though.

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