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Help me grow a backbone

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littlemslazybones · 22/07/2012 18:43

O.K. I'm the daughter of a bi-polar mother who was physically abusive over my childhood. To a large extent, I have been complicit with a family whitewash of awful events that have been minimised to make way for a narrative where my mother is only a victim of her mental illness.

This has been made easier because I suppose, first of all, I prefer this version. Secondly, she doesn't remember ( or perhaps doesn't want to remember) the worst of all this. Thirdly, because this illness became recognised and treated (moderated) after these events.

The years have gone by and now things chug along quite happily and there is a peace based on this silence. However, occasionally my mum will have what is referred to as an episode. To be fair, the last one was 5 years ago. When this happens she is violent and god awful to everyone around her and my family implodes and we are all immobilised by all the history. When this happened the last time she told me that everyone thought I was an awful difficult child and if she did batter me, then I probably deserved it. Everyone in her reach gets a bucket load of this, she thinks we just shrug it off as part of her illness.

Things are different this time around. My Dad died last year and normally he would power through and find a way to knit together all the chaos. She has just gone, in my sister's words, psycho. I feel disloyal enough without going into details but, again, there was violence. My sister is out of the house and safe.

This is just one part of my mum. She can also be incredibly kind, strong, wise, generous. I love her. My kids love her. I know she needs help, I know I should go around and help. I know that this is an illness. There's no-one else here who can do this, but my legs feel hollow and I'm too scared.

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dequoisagitil · 22/07/2012 18:52

Oh I'm sorry.

Could you just call the relevant people (CPN?) and get them on the case instead?

You have to look after yourself as well you know.

littlemslazybones · 22/07/2012 18:56

I don't know. I don't know what CPN is.

I don't think she will hurt herself. I know she will be knackered and in bed sleeping. This is how it goes.

If I phone anyone who represents an authority she will hate me, I don't think we'd come back from that. I know, I'm gutless.

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ImperialBlether · 22/07/2012 19:04

She doesn't have to know it's you though, does she? In your position I would call them out and then deny everything.

CPN is her Community Psychiatric Nurse. Do you think she has one? Is she on medication now?

ImperialBlether · 22/07/2012 19:04

How old is your sister? Can she stay with you? Did she get hurt? If not, who was your mum violent towards?

dequoisagitil · 22/07/2012 19:07

So you don't have any support from mental health services at all?

Without your father, your family needs to come to some sort of new agreement about how to deal with your mum's episodes, and I don't think it can continue to be rewriting history and allowing her violence to go on. No matter what she's like when she's in good form.

I don't think it's fair that it should fall to you to maintain a fiction of how the only person affected by her illness is her.

izzyizin · 22/07/2012 19:09

When your mother is behaving in a violent manner, the only people who should be around her are psychiatric professionals and you should only visit/see her in the presence of these professionals.

Now that your df is no longer around to 'power through', your first duty is to keep yourself safe during your dm's violent episodes and I'm sure he wouldn't want, or expect, you to pick up the burden he carried for so many years.

Regardless of how much your dc love their dgm, it isn't safe for them to be around her at the present time.

Are you in touch with her pyschiatrist/CPNs?

Although your dm has an illness, when she having one of these episodes you are best advised to stay away from her until the professionals tell you that you and yours are no longer in any danger from her.

It's hard, honey, but it's only way you're going to be able to sustain your love for her and retain whatever fond memories you and your dc have of her.

HecateHarshPants · 22/07/2012 19:11

terrible situation to be in. you and her.

What are your options?

Stay away from her until you get word she has come out the other side of this
take the abuse
get help for her, and risk her hating you for it.

First question should always be - what will happen if you do nothing? second question is - is that safe/acceptable?

The thing is that sometimes you find yourself in a situation where the right thing is not the easy thing and you have to choose. And the price you may pay for doing the right thing can be very high but you have to ask yourself - is that a reason to not do it?

I've been in a similar situation. I did the wrong thing and I regret it every day. I should have called social services but I was afraid that the person would hate me. I should have accepted that that might be the price I would have to pay in order to safeguard that person. They would be safe, they would get help - and I would have to live with never seeing them again, but knowing that they were ok and not being taken advantage of.

It's a very difficult situation to be in and it can feel like whatever you do - it's the wrong thing. but there are degrees of 'wrong thing'. You just have to think very carefully and make a choice.

izzyizin · 22/07/2012 19:12

CPN = community psychiatric nurses.

Are you saying that your dsis has been the victim of violence from your dm but the police and mental health workers have not been involved?

As much as your dm presents a danger to her nearest and dearest, she also presents a danger to herself and you are best advised to notify the police and/or alert your local authority's mental health social workers to her condition.

ImperialBlether · 22/07/2012 19:12

I agree with dequoisagitil (blimey that took ages to type!)

I'm sure part of your agreement to keep quiet was to save your dad from having to confront aspects of your childhood which were extremely painful to go through. Sadly, your dad is no longer here, so you don't have to abide by that old set of rules. I know you think your mum set the rules, but I'm sure it was partly for your dad that you all kept to them.

Whatever happens now, you all have to act together. Every decision should be shared. That way, when your mum is going through a stronger phase and denounces you, nobody will be there to back her up.

If she had a CPN they would consider that part of their job to help her adjust her ideas.

littlemslazybones · 22/07/2012 19:12

I have to get the kids into bed and have a proper think. Thanks. I'll be back.

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littlemslazybones · 22/07/2012 19:49

I'm going to answer things bit by bit so bear with me if its a bit disjointed.

My sister is an adult in her twenties and lives with my Mam. I'm not in touch with anyone who plays a part with my Mum and her mental health. It's something that she guards closely. I don't think she is a very compliant patient but she jumps through the hoops knowing she needs the drugs.

If things follow form and I do nothing I think she will stay in bed for a few days. See the doctor. Up her meds. She will feel alone and that no-one in this world is here to support her.

The violence is short lived - mostly throwing objects at people nowadays. The police have not been called - this isn't going to happen. It's a rage, mostly threatening - at people she is close to, everyone else gets the game face. What tends to follow is a depressed period where she is reclusive and distant. She gets lost in her own history which looks a shit load worse than mine.

It might not go this way Hecate so I can't rely on this probably. I do need to do something, until now I thought that meant I had to do something.

ImperialBlether we kept quiet because she told us to. Dad thought he got the worst of it. This all feels like a lifetime ago now. I don't talk about it because I don't want to be responsible for the fallout if she starts to remember.

We should have had a back-up plan. Things had been going well for so long now it felt (or, perhaps it was useful to believe) this was history. I'd never leave the kids with her on their own.

O.k. Thank you for your help. I'm going to phone my brother and see if we can't do this together.

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