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Why is he doing this?

16 replies

NeenawNana · 16/07/2012 10:16

This isn't my partner but my 'best' friend who is male.

There's a bit of history in that a couple of years ago he got a girlfriend and obviously she tied up a lot of his time, along with his kids and job etc. Which was all fine but then last June he 'dropped' me and completely cut contact. I found it all very hurtful but I got over it (sort of). I was working, pregnant (to my husband!) so really busy anyway and I moved on. His timing was well off as I don't have many close friends and I would've liked him to have been in my life. He had recently been letting me down a lot and sapping my energy so I tried to see it as a good thing. I posted on here at the time and got some great advice which I followed.

In November when my baby was 8wo I randomly got a massive long text from him saying how sorry he was about dropping me and all the let-downs, how much he needed me in his life, basically begging me to 'salvage the friendship' as he felt I'd left a void. I was really Hmm but after a few texts back and forth we decided to meet up. We met up quite a bit and it was like old times. He split up with his gf (nothing to do with me!) and got a new job, and I went back to work myself. Then throughout June he would arrange something with me and then cancel at the last minute (which was annoying as obviously with working FT and having my daughter now arranging anything is a military mission). He would always blame his new job which I suppose is fair enough because I know where he works is manic, but he would often leave me hanging without even a text to let me know what was going on. We work at the same company on the same site so it's not that hard to just go have a coffee yet I haven't seen him since May because he keeps cancelling.

He seems to be doing exactly the same as he did last year. My birthday came and went with no word from him. I'm not bothered about a big fuss but it seems symbolic that he forgot it, iykwim. I know he's wrapped up in himself and his job at the moment (he's actually at a festival so it's not work) but if I meant that much to him wouldn't I at least get a Happy Birthday text? I don't get it. Why the big appeal to salvage the friendship if he was just going to put me through it all again? Is he some kind of sadist? I feel like a fool for making up with him for him to put me through this again. Because now I have to go through the whole process of feeling like an idiot, missing him, etc etc and I can't believe I was so stupid.

And I genuinely don't believe he actually realises he's done anything wrong, maybe he hasn't. I don't know.

OP posts:
scarletforya · 16/07/2012 10:26

In November when my baby was 8wo I randomly got a massive long text from him saying how sorry he was about dropping me and all the let-downs, how much he needed me in his life, basically begging me to 'salvage the friendship' as he felt I'd left a void.

So he asked you to re-kindle the friendship, not because he was sorry and cared about treating you badly but because he needed you in his life. The 'friendship' is not about you and never has been. He's used you, it's all about what you bring to his life and the 'void' you left in his life when you quite rightly kicked him out of it the last time.

Look, if he had any real remorse or respect he would have never had the cheek to send a fecking text to try to rekindle the friendship. How casual of him, he couldn't take the time to actually call or speak to you properly in person.

He knows his behaviour was shit and yet he does it all over again? To answer your question he does it because he can and you let him

Get rid of him, he's a user.

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 16/07/2012 10:26

Do either of you have the hots for each other?

Inadeeptrance · 16/07/2012 10:31

Sack him now! He's taking the piss massively. It sounds like he likes knowing he's got you dangling waiting around for him. Cock! Angry

Have you got feelings for him? Does he think you have? It sounds like he's using you for an ego boost...

CogitoErgoSometimes · 16/07/2012 10:35

If you're his pal when life's getting him down or women dump him but you're second choice when there is something or someone more fun and interesting, that would make him a user. However, male/female friendships that get as intense as you describe - being dramatically 'dropped' followed by emotional texts - are not platonic. If he fancies you but can't cope because you're married with a baby etc., then it would make sense that he avoids you, cuts contact, begs forgiveness etc.

If would suggest you find a different best friend. You may be sure about your feelings for him but I don't think he's at all comfortable with his feelings for you.

solidgoldbrass · 16/07/2012 10:46

It's either a matter of having you to feed his ego when he doesn't have a girlfriend, or he's trying to make you realise that you should be his girlfriend.

Either way, it's all about him as far as he's concerned; let him go (without any kind of showdown as that would just feed his ego some more.) Just be too busy to bother about him and if he does get in touch, be polite but distant. You;re his stopgap 'woman' when he wants a bit of ego stroking and/or comfort, but he;s not prepared to put himself out for you if he's got something better to do.

NeenawNana · 16/07/2012 11:07

[b]let him go (without any kind of showdown as that would just feed his ego some more.) Just be too busy to bother about him and if he does get in touch, be polite but distant. [/b]
Yes that's what I was planning, I feel sad about it because as I say I don't have many friends, but I don't think I need a friend like this. I've given him the benefit of the doubt so many times blaming it on his disorganisation or whatever. Now he's just making a fool out of me and it's getting embarrassing when I make myself available just to be batted away.

He was still with the gf when he 'rekindled' the friendship with me but he wasn't very happy. He was just after an ego boost wasn't he.

I do not have a crush on him. I don't believe he has the hots for me either - after all I have had a baby and am hardly a prize catch Blush I believe he's just a user. Sad... I thought I knew him better.

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 16/07/2012 11:13

Don't do yourself down. I'm pretty sure he sees you as his fallback.

Kaluki · 16/07/2012 11:46

I have a female friend identical to this.
We fell out a few years ago over her constantly letting me down and we didn't speak for a few months. Then I saw on FB that her DH had left her so I felt bad and messaged her. She was so sorry, we made up (tearfully), went for a few coffees/lunches and now I haven't seen her for 18 months.
Every now and then I get a text full of me me me saying what a hard time she is having and not even asking after me or my family so I ignore her now.
I can't be bothered any more. She is a user and I don't need people like this in my life.
I won't fall out with her again, because it won't change anything but I have relegated her to one of those Christmas card only friends who I never see!

geegee888 · 16/07/2012 17:32

He sounds like a user. He probably put on a nice guy act to give you a better impression of himself than he really is, and now you're emotionally involved, even just as his friend. But basically it sounds like he uses you as an ego boost when he needs it. Personally, I don't understand people who behave like this, but generally I'm always a bit wary of men who claim to have lots of female friends, unless gay. My bet would be you are one of several female friends he uses in this way.

Apocalypto · 16/07/2012 18:36

This reminds me of blokes who chuck women but insist that they want to stay friends, and even arrange to meet up afterwards.

It's nothing to do with her feelings and all about them persuading themselves they haven't been a shot and everything's fine.

My issue would be that he could perfectly well do this again.

Apocalypto · 16/07/2012 18:37

for shot read shit

MissFaversam · 16/07/2012 19:02

I also wouldn't feel foolish about it OP. You gave him a chance and he just showed you his true colours really huh.

Put it down to experience and him being a user.

SoleSource · 16/07/2012 21:42

It is very painful, might be more so after having a baby. He is a user. You deserve to treat yourself better by not letting your inner self continue to be hurt and let down. Stop blaming you. You did everything right. He doesn't care. Grieve and know the pain will pass. Your DD is your future now. Somebody new will come along. You attract people as you're nice.

Viviennemary · 16/07/2012 21:55

I agree that he sounds an absolute user. Have you feelings for him beyond friendship. Sounds as if you might have or have I read this wrong. He sounds very selfish and unreliable.

sarahseashell · 16/07/2012 22:14

would you put up with this from a female friend? do you think there's more to it (ie are one or both attracted to the other?) It sounds from the outside like a friendship you could live without going forwards tbh, especially if it's a bit of a one way street

mathanxiety · 16/07/2012 22:29

You are right to think he needs to be dropped. Life is too short to have a user sucking your energy and making you feel like a fool.

He keeps doing this because it flatters his ego that you are there, willing to keep in touch, willing to make arrangements that he has no intention of keeping, behaving like someone he has on a leash of varying lengths. He is getting exactly what he wants from your 'friendship'. He doesn't want more though he probably wouldn't say no to 'benefits'. Ego gratification would be his aim even there though.

He is a parasite and I agree he probably has a roster of female friends.

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